George Patton: The Mixed Legacy of an Iconic Four-Star General

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Never again will there be a man like George S. Patton. The four-star general wasn't just a great man on the field of battle, he was also an inspiring paragon of American values and civic virtue, a tale of man's will to overcome.

George Smith Patton Jr. was born on what would become Veteran's Day, November 11, 1885 in San Gabriel, California. His father, George Smith Patton II, graduated from Virginia Military Institute on a scholarship but chose law over military service. Patton Jr. never seriously considered any other career path.

Despite being an avid reader, Patton struggled to learn how to read at an early age but was an otherwise excellent student at Stephen Clark's School for Boys, a private school in Pasadena. He liked to read classical military histories. After spending two years at the Virginia Military Institute, he transferred to West Point where he continued to struggle with reading and writing, but excelled during inspections and drills.

While at West Point he earned the ranks of sergeant major during his junior year, and the cadet adjutant his senior year. He played football before an arm injury thrust him into the worlds of fencing and track and field.

In 1909, he graduated 46 out of 103 cadets and received a commission as a second lieutenant in the Cavalry branch of the United States Army.

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Tory Potter

I don't understand the "mixed" part of his legacy. General Patton was the best general the USA ever had.
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Solar

Quote from: Tory Potter on November 20, 2021, 07:17:45 AMI don't understand the "mixed" part of his legacy. General Patton was the best general the USA ever had.
He also had some totalitarian shit going on.
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I think every good general has "some totalitarian shit going on." If they are nothing else, generals are commanders; they are people who give orders (not suggestions) and are surrounded with the structure to insure that those orders are obeyed.

How effective would any general be if he/she stopped to take a poll or conduct an election every time a decision had to be made?
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Quote from: TboneAgain on December 05, 2021, 05:57:15 PMI think every good general has "some totalitarian shit going on." If they are nothing else, generals are commanders; they are people who give orders (not suggestions) and are surrounded with the structure to insure that those orders are obeyed.

How effective would any general be if he/she stopped to take a poll or conduct an election every time a decision had to be made?
Granted he was an amazing leader, his one black eye on his record was his assault on the Bonus Marchers.
Quite an interesting story, and certainly different times, still, not good by any measure.
Check out the videos of the day, these men were ripped of by the US govt.
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Quote from: Solar on December 05, 2021, 06:57:53 PMGranted he was an amazing leader, his one black eye on his record was his assault on the Bonus Marchers.
Quite an interesting story, and certainly different times, still, not good by any measure.
Check out the videos of the day, these men were ripped of by the US govt.
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Patton - then a major - led an assault on the Bonus Marchers under direct orders from his commander, the vastly more odious Brigadier General Douglas MacArthur. Patton had the balls to personally lead his troops in the effort, taking credit - and blame - for the decisions of those above him in the chain of command. The entire affair helped Franklin Roosevelt become the next president, beginning a terribly sad chapter in American history.

I think if Georgie hadn't done it, the next closest major would have.

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Quote from: TboneAgain on December 05, 2021, 11:48:50 PMPatton - then a major - led an assault on the Bonus Marchers under direct orders from his commander, the vastly more odious Brigadier General Douglas MacArthur. Patton had the balls to personally lead his troops in the effort, taking credit - and blame - for the decisions of those above him in the chain of command. The entire affair helped Franklin Roosevelt become the next president, beginning a terribly sad chapter in American history.

I think if Georgie hadn't done it, the next closest major would have.

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It was an illegal order. Military law states you do not have to follow illegal orders.
FDR should have been arrested.
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