The First Vaccine Tampering Story!

Started by RV, January 01, 2021, 08:47:41 AM

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Regarding the Covid 19 vaccine

I will take it eventually
2 (28.6%)
I will take it immediately
1 (14.3%)
I won't take it ever
4 (57.1%)

Total Members Voted: 7

Yuriy the Loader

Quote from: RV on January 12, 2021, 06:10:21 AM
So, am I getting this correct? You advocate for unsanitary conditions for the sole purpose of causing as many deaths as possible so that "the population of the Earth will again return to a reasonable one billion"? Because that is what you said. So you justify the murder of innocents to fulfill your ideal population? And by the way, where can I find that your number is the right number? Didn't God say "go forth and multiply"? So you think that you know better than God?

Who makes the call of who lives or dies? Are you willing to be the first to abandon sanitary conditions? What about what God the Creator said about life?

Let's first find out which god you mean.

If you are a Jew, a Muslim or a Christian, you mean one God, although the Christians have a God somehow upset.

If you are a Hindu or a synthaist, then you have a lot of gods and what they just didn't say in a long history.

If you are a Buddhist, then you have no god at all, because Buddha is not a god but a teacher.

And yes, the current 8 billion of the world's population was made possible only by vaccinations, antibiotics and GMO products. If these three components did not exist, people would die faster than they were born.

I don't know what the Creator said. Moreover, I don't know if the Creator could speak at all. And if he could, then for 13.8 billion years, his words did not reach us.

True, His laws came down, which he laid in our Universe, and these laws are valid for the entire Universe from the beginning of time, and until now, at least.

And it does not say anywhere that you do not need to be vaccinated against the virus. You made it up yourself. I don't know why or why ..


Yuriy the Loader

Quote from: RV on January 12, 2021, 06:05:12 AM
I agree with you that Bill Gates is not a microbiologist and cannot manufacture vaccines or any other medical product. He CAN however be like George Soros and provide millions of dollars for the sole purpose of enslaving the public and furthering his agenda.

Yes, the power of money is great.

But are we on the side of Capitalism in the United States?

Or are you still leaning towards the socialist idea and want to take money from these two scoundrels and thieves?

RV

Quote from: Yuriy the Loader on January 12, 2021, 08:18:09 AM
Let's first find out which god you mean.

There is only one God. You may think that there are many but, you are mistaken.

Quote from: Yuriy the Loader on January 12, 2021, 08:18:09 AM
If you are a Jew, a Muslim or a Christian, you mean one God, although the Christians have a God somehow upset.

God is never surprised or "upset". He knows far more than we will ever know. God is far more knowledgable, far more powerful, far more righteous and far more omniscient than we could ever be.

Quote from: Yuriy the Loader on January 12, 2021, 08:18:09 AM
If you are a Hindu or a synthaist, then you have a lot of gods and what they just didn't say in a long history.

While man may invent many "gods", there is only one God who is in all, through all and the creator of all. God sent His ONLY Son to redeem us and make us blameless. Sadly there are human beings who choose punishment rather than life and they will receive what they have chosen.

Quote from: Yuriy the Loader on January 12, 2021, 08:18:09 AM
If you are a Buddhist, then you have no god at all, because Buddha is not a god but a teacher.

Buddha was a human being like everyone of us and he was not "deity", not God's Son and cannot "save" us from anything.

Quote from: Yuriy the Loader on January 12, 2021, 08:18:09 AM
And yes, the current 8 billion of the world's population was made possible only by vaccinations, antibiotics and GMO products. If these three components did not exist, people would die faster than they were born.

Well that is your opinion anyway.

Quote from: Yuriy the Loader on January 12, 2021, 08:18:09 AM
I don't know what the Creator said.
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No, I bet you don't. The people who claim that the Constitution is "obsolete" and want a lawless Communist society probably have no clue what it says either yet, they still advocate as if they do.

Quote from: Yuriy the Loader on January 12, 2021, 08:18:09 AM
Moreover, I don't know if the Creator could speak at all. And if he could, then for 13.8 billion years, his words did not reach us.

The Bible says that we were made in His image so, that would mean that He CAN. It's not that "God's words did not reach us", it's that men loved money, wealth, fame, fortune and thus ignored God and His word. Many today still ignore or deny Him just as they did 2,000 years ago. Take the election for example. Only someone who is a lover of self and their own self interests would vote more than once, throw ballots for an opposing candidate away or rig a machine to switch votes to the candidate they wanted.

Quote from: Yuriy the Loader on January 12, 2021, 08:18:09 AM
True, His laws came down, which he laid in our Universe, and these laws are valid for the entire Universe from the beginning of time, and until now, at least.

First off, we are flawed humans so, no one can follow the law completely. None of us are sinless, spotless, perfect nor righteous next to God. That is why He gave us Jesus, to reconcile man to his Creator.

Quote from: Yuriy the Loader on January 12, 2021, 08:18:09 AM
And it does not say anywhere that you do not need to be vaccinated against the virus. You made it up yourself. I don't know why or why ..

No, there is no place in the Bible where it says that one should be vaccinated. The Bible doesn't use the words "rapture", "Bible" or "Internet" either. Actually there are many words not used in the Bible yet many proclaim that they are taboo, wrong or otherwise atrocious. The Bible does say in many places that we are to trust God and obey His word if we love Him.
RV

"Trust in the Lord with all of your heart and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge Him and He shall direct thy path."

Yuriy the Loader

The Bible says one thing, the Torah is a little different, the Koran is quite the third. The Book of Changes is the fourth, Mahabharata is the fifth, the Book of the Dead is generally the sixth.

But they all insist that it is they who bring us the light of true knowledge.

In my seventh opinion, you are all wrong.

It is for this reason that the US Bill of Rights argues that all opinions are important, that all opinions are needed.

The Founding Fathers were wise, and this was the basis for their fundamental decision, to separate religion from the state. Although it is written on our coat of arms that "We believe in God," it does not say which one, so that citizens do not gnaw each other's throats.

RV

Quote from: Yuriy the Loader on January 12, 2021, 10:18:44 AM
The Bible says one thing, the Torah is a little different, the Koran is quite the third. The Book of Changes is the fourth, Mahabharata is the fifth, the Book of the Dead is generally the sixth.

But they all insist that it is they who bring us the light of true knowledge.

In my seventh opinion, you are all wrong.

It is for this reason that the US Bill of Rights argues that all opinions are important, that all opinions are needed.

The Founding Fathers were wise, and this was the basis for their fundamental decision, to separate religion from the state. Although it is written on our coat of arms that "We believe in God," it does not say which one, so that citizens do not gnaw each other's throats.

If it were "just my opinion" then I would understand. Unfortunately it is not "my opinion". It isn't "my word" nor "my truth" either. It is THE truth. You are free to take it or leave it. I am not now nor will I ever be responsible for your decision. When you face God Almighty, I hope that this conversation comes back to you because, God WILL remind you of it whether you do or not. It is His word, His judgement and His decision based upon whether you accepted or rejected His Son.
RV

"Trust in the Lord with all of your heart and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge Him and He shall direct thy path."

Yuriy the Loader

Jews have fun like that too. They know that this man, the son of God, must soon return to Earth.

:biggrin:

midcan5

Wife and I have had first Pfizer, next week second.  A little tired and headache-y but overall fine. Lots of friends and family have had it too, but many others are reluctant as some here are. I think given the number of people who have had it and are fine, why not get it? I commented in link below too.

http://conservativepoliticalforum.com/healthy-living/do-not-vaccinate!!!/?action=post;quote=455044;last_msg=455089
Wanna make America great, buy American owned, made in the USA, we do. AF Veteran, P-type: Advocate INFJ-A, liberal - conservative.

RV

Quote from: Yuriy the Loader on January 12, 2021, 08:18:09 AM
Let's first find out which god you mean.

If you are a Jew, a Muslim or a Christian, you mean one God, although the Christians have a God somehow upset.

If you are a Hindu or a synthaist, then you have a lot of gods and what they just didn't say in a long history.

If you are a Buddhist, then you have no god at all, because Buddha is not a god but a teacher.

And yes, the current 8 billion of the world's population was made possible only by vaccinations, antibiotics and GMO products. If these three components did not exist, people would die faster than they were born.

I don't know what the Creator said. Moreover, I don't know if the Creator could speak at all. And if he could, then for 13.8 billion years, his words did not reach us.

True, His laws came down, which he laid in our Universe, and these laws are valid for the entire Universe from the beginning of time, and until now, at least.

And it does not say anywhere that you do not need to be vaccinated against the virus. You made it up yourself. I don't know why or why ..

Since there is only one God, one Son, one Holy Spirit & one word, it really doesn't matter to me how many gods are claimed, created nor fabricated by human "religions". Yes, there are many "religions" and many people who claim many things but, they do not line up with scripture. So while you may be confused and befuddled by "religion" when your life is over, you will face THE God and He will determine your fate, NOT religion, not gods, nor what other "religions" claim.
RV

"Trust in the Lord with all of your heart and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge Him and He shall direct thy path."

RV

Quote from: midcan5 on March 26, 2021, 02:33:25 PM
Wife and I have had first Pfizer, next week second.  A little tired and headache-y but overall fine. Lots of friends and family have had it too, but many others are reluctant as some here are. I think given the number of people who have had it and are fine, why not get it? I commented in link below too.

http://conservativepoliticalforum.com/healthy-living/do-not-vaccinate!!!/?action=post;quote=455044;last_msg=455089

It may be claimed that everyone is "fine" but, what about a year from now? Two years from now? Five years from now? What recourse is offered if and when the recipients aren't "fine"? Who can be held accountable if and when the recipients aren't fine? Would anyone even know if the "vaccine" altered their DNA? Where was the "vaccine" prior to being at the injection location? Was the "vaccine" left out without refrigeration somewhere along the way? Was a choice given prior to injection, on which "vaccine" the recipient wanted?

My wife and I are not going to put something into our bodies that may have been tampered with, where no accountability exists, where information isn't even given before hand on which "vaccine" we want and where no recourse exists should the "vaccine" not work, cause some ailment, cause death, cause harm or create some sort of medical condition that was not there previously. Given the fact that lies were told routinely about President Trump, the media parroted and expounded on those lies and that the liberals are intent on getting even with Trump supporters, tampering with the "vaccine" would not surprise me in the least.
RV

"Trust in the Lord with all of your heart and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge Him and He shall direct thy path."

dickfoster

Quote from: Yuriy the Loader on January 10, 2021, 09:59:23 AM
In our company, the annual vaccination against the flu was mandatory, so I got sick twice a year, first from the vaccine, then from the flu.
It was supposedly mandantiry in the Air Force too but I told them they could go to hell and I wasn't taking any more friggin flu shots. Given the choice of dealing with congress they backed down and I haven't had a flu shot since 1970.
Crazy but not stupid!

midcan5

Our second vaccine this week.  Many in family and friends have had both already.  Everyone is doing well.  Be safe get vaccinated.  For old timers like us, Jonas Salk was a hero.  Polio is gone and worldwide lots of the diseases of the past are gone or limited.

https://www.historyofvaccines.org/timeline/all

https://www.healthaffairs.org/doi/10.1377/hlthaff.24.3.611

Wanna make America great, buy American owned, made in the USA, we do. AF Veteran, P-type: Advocate INFJ-A, liberal - conservative.

RV

Quote from: midcan5 on March 29, 2021, 04:52:05 AM
Our second vaccine this week.  Many in family and friends have had both already.  Everyone is doing well.  Be safe get vaccinated.  For old timers like us, Jonas Salk was a hero.  Polio is gone and worldwide lots of the diseases of the past are gone or limited.

https://www.historyofvaccines.org/timeline/all

https://www.healthaffairs.org/doi/10.1377/hlthaff.24.3.611

Yep, the effects may not surface for years as my previous post pointed out.
RV

"Trust in the Lord with all of your heart and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge Him and He shall direct thy path."

Solar

Quote from: midcan5 on March 29, 2021, 04:52:05 AM
Our second vaccine this week.  Many in family and friends have had both already.  Everyone is doing well.  Be safe get vaccinated.  For old timers like us, Jonas Salk was a hero.  Polio is gone and worldwide lots of the diseases of the past are gone or limited.

https://www.historyofvaccines.org/timeline/all

https://www.healthaffairs.org/doi/10.1377/hlthaff.24.3.611
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RV

Quote from: dickfoster on March 26, 2021, 03:30:22 PM
It was supposedly mandantiry in the Air Force too but I told them they could go to hell and I wasn't taking any more friggin flu shots. Given the choice of dealing with congress they backed down and I haven't had a flu shot since 1970.

Good for you! Thank you for your service. It must have taken a great deal of courage, knowledge and commitment to refuse the Air Force's "mandate" but, I for one am glad that you did!
RV

"Trust in the Lord with all of your heart and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge Him and He shall direct thy path."