Quote from: Solar on September 29, 2015, 03:08:38 PM
Oh man, this is like argiung with a kid and trying to explain why he won't get an allowance.

Learn to spell, idiot.

Quote from: The Fiscal Conservative on September 29, 2015, 03:08:26 PM

So you advocate tax cuts on individuals when we still have a massive deficit and a massive debt? That's brilliant.

If you owe 10s of 1000s of dollars on a loan your first priority should be to pay the loan off. THEN you can go spending money on other things.

Please, hold onto that thought.
Tell me what would happen right now, this very moment, if they raised taxes across the board.
Keep in mind, this is very much like a microcosm of raising the min wage in the city, and how it effects business and employment.

Seriously, I want you to apply critical thought to this, not politics,.

Quote from: Solar on September 29, 2015, 03:12:06 PM
Please, hold onto that thought.
Tell me what would happen right now, this very moment, if they raised taxes across the board.
Keep in mind, this is very much like a microcosm of raising the min wage in the city, and how it effects business and employment.

Seriously, I want you to apply critical thought to this, not politics,.

Only I never called for raising taxes. I called for not lowering taxes. This is another strawman argument.

Eliminate the deficit. Start slowly paying off the debt. THEN start lowering taxes.

Quote from: The Fiscal Conservative on September 29, 2015, 03:14:08 PM
Only I never called for raising taxes. I called for not lowering taxes. This is another strawman argument.

Eliminate the deficit. Start slowly paying off the debt. THEN start lowering taxes.

Yes or no: are poor people hurt by rich people saving money?

Quote from: The Fiscal Conservative on September 29, 2015, 03:12:02 PM
Learn to spell, idiot.

So you've resorted to typo Nazi?

Quote from: The Fiscal Conservative on September 29, 2015, 03:14:08 PM
Only I never called for raising taxes. I called for not lowering taxes. This is another strawman argument.

Eliminate the deficit. Start slowly paying off the debt. THEN start lowering taxes.

As I suspected, you can't even approach the question, because you have no knowledge of the subject.
You claim supply side doesn't work, so I'm proposing the opposite, and trying to get you to wrap your mind around the concept oft allowing people to keep more of their own money, spurs growth.

Quote from: Solar on September 29, 2015, 03:21:21 PM
As I suspected, you can't even approach the question, because you have no knowledge of the subject.
You claim supply side doesn't work, so I'm proposing the opposite, and trying to get you to wrap your mind around the concept oft allowing people to keep more of their own money, spurs growth.

My favorite so far is him saying rich people don't spend money, only save when they get tax breaks.

Quote from: The Fiscal Conservative on September 29, 2015, 03:14:08 PM
Only I never called for raising taxes. I called for not lowering taxes. This is another strawman argument.

Eliminate the deficit. Start slowly paying off the debt. THEN start lowering taxes.

Simple scenario. You claimed rich people save money they aren't taxed, correct?
I said "Wrong son..... They invest it! Shock, the horror, they want to make more money, so they invest in industries with growth potential.
Oh man, this is like argiung with a kid and trying to explain why he won't get an allowance."

So here's your assignment. You are rich, and trying to make your money work for you by investing, not saving. Follow me so far?
What happens when I, "the govt" remove your tax loopholes and raise your taxes? The simple answer is you divest to pay the taxes, along with every other American, business slows or halts in many sectors.
That's basic econ. But what happens if I, ( govt here again) tell you that you'll get tax shelter if you invest in companies manufacturing on American soil?

Quote from: taxed on September 29, 2015, 03:27:30 PM
My favorite so far is him saying rich people don't spend money, only save when they get tax breaks.

I loved that, it never even occurred to him that us rich bastards don't save money, we invest.

Quote from: Solar on September 29, 2015, 03:34:18 PM


I loved that, it never even occurred to him that us rich bastards don't save money, we invest.

It just occured to me that he actually does believe that.  Wow.

Quote from: Solar on September 29, 2015, 03:34:18 PM


I loved that, it never even occurred to him that us rich bastards don't save money, we invest.

No, making $35,000 an hour does not make you rich.   

If you really were rich, you would not be arguing with someone you don't know on an internet forum. And before you tell me I'm not rich either then - I never claimed to be rich.

Quote from: The Fiscal Conservative on September 29, 2015, 03:41:16 PM

No, making $35,000 an hour does not make you rich.   

If you really were rich, you would not be arguing with someone you don't know on an internet forum. And before you tell me I'm not rich either then - I never claimed to be rich.

We know.

Quote from: The Fiscal Conservative on September 29, 2015, 03:41:16 PM

No, making $35,000 an hour does not make you rich.   

If you really were rich, you would not be arguing with someone you don't know on an internet forum. And before you tell me I'm not rich either then - I never claimed to be rich.

No, I retired in my mid 40s, decades ago, and I own this forum, and Taxed is my partner.
Rich is relative.

Quote from: Solar on September 29, 2015, 03:44:14 PM
No, I retired in my mid 40s, decades ago, and I own this forum, and Taxed is my partner.
Rich is relative.

I have a feeling this kid isn't from this country.  His understanding of economics is just too foreign.

Yeah, I bet he's your "partner"