Reduce the trade deficit; increase GDP & median wage

Started by Supposn, April 08, 2012, 06:06:52 AM

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hokiewoodchuck

Supposn....you coomie bastard....answer the freaking question.....with ALL your analytical expertise, as you so well stated.....is it really that hard to answer

WHAT FUCKING COUNTRY ARE YOU FROM....PERIOD!

Mods...if he doesn't answer the question...boot him off.
I thought I was wrong one time but I was mistaken.

Solar

Quote from: Supposn on April 19, 2012, 04:24:28 AM
Solar, in response to your reply #84, refer to reply #59, posted at 8:31AM, April 16, 2012.

Respectfully, Supposn

OK, now you're starting to piss me off, you claim I am not explicit in my questions, then when I ask point blank, you refer me back to your other rambling nonsense where you completely evade the question.
So I ask again, because in all your wisdom, you have overlooked the fact that you are micromanaging the business of our trading partners that want no part of this nonsense.
Just because you impose it on unwilling Americans, doesn't mean our trading partners will sit by and accept it.
Listen to me! They Will Not Accept This Nonsense!!!!

So I repeat!
You impose your tax on exporters and they quit importing to us, which they will.
Now the consequences of this, is that our trading partners don't like it and retaliate against our exporters, that includes all kinds of necessities, from refined fuel for the east coast, to parts for light rail trains, something we import all of.

You see, we trade with other countries, and this is a good thing, but your plan punishes other countries indirectly, by trying to force a change on the American importer to find a new source of product here at home.
So pissing off our partners would have severe side effects to our own economy.

What will you do when everything falls apart?
And it will?
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Quote from: hokiewoodchuck on April 19, 2012, 05:21:15 AM
Supposn....you coomie bastard....answer the freaking question.....with ALL your analytical expertise, as you so well stated.....is it really that hard to answer

WHAT FUCKING COUNTRY ARE YOU FROM....PERIOD!

Mods...if he doesn't answer the question...boot him off.

HokieWoodChuck, your sweet disposition is a blessing and joy to your mother?  I suppose she's proud of your use of language and good manners?

The schools you attended and your teachers would be gratified by your understanding of the concepts they teach?  So many children leave school and remain ignorant of individual's elementary rights of privacy or our nation's democratic ideals.

Supposn

walkstall

Quote from: Supposn on April 19, 2012, 09:19:15 AM
HokieWoodChuck, your sweet disposition is a blessing and joy to your mother?  I suppose she's proud of your use of language and good manners?

The schools you attended and your teachers would be gratified by your understanding of the concepts they teach?  So many children leave school and remain ignorant of individual's elementary rights of privacy or our nation's democratic ideals.

Supposn

You forgot Respectfully. 
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Always remember "Feelings Aren't Facts."

hokiewoodchuck

That's correct.....matter of fact supposn....they are proud of me for using my freedom of speech rights.

You don't like it....take a long walk on a short pier.

You are fairly good at throwing thoughts around with no basis of fact....just conjecture.
I thought I was wrong one time but I was mistaken.

Supposn

Solar, I tried and believe I've succeeded to answer all your questions RELATIVE TO the Import Certificate policy that I support.  If you believe I've overlooked something, you can specifically point that out.  I try to explicitly answer explicit questions.

Explicitly state what are the specific questions that you believe I have not addressed?  You disagree with many of my prior statements and answers.  That does not constitute the evasion of a question.

The trade policy requires importers to surrender ICs covering the assessed values of their goods entering the USA.  You consider that as micro-managing foreign nations; I do not. If you're correct, every nation currently demanding a tariff or a fee for U.S. products entering their nation is currently micro-managing the USA.

An IC policy will be of net economic benefit to USA but it's particularly beneficial to our nation's wage earning families.  Our current policy of seeking pure free trade reduces our GDP more than otherwise; (otherwise being our nation having adopted an IC trade policy).  Our current trade policy is particularly detrimental to wage earning families.

If charity is to be our national policy, it should be funded from the federal budget and be borne by all taxpayers.  Wage earning families are the poorest working families and are among the poorer segments of our population.  They should not pay a disproportionate portion of our trade deficit's detrimental effect upon our GDP.

Any nation that would be reluctant to trade with the USA will do themselves much more harm than their harm to the USA.  The USA is still a rich market.  If Japan or China wants to discard their shares of USA's markets, other nations including ourselves will fill in the gap.

I'm unwilling to betray the best interests of USA's economy and our wage earners to serve the interests of any foreign nations.  I'm in general disagreement with your reply #91.

Respectfully, Supposn

quiller

And this troll again ignores direct questions.

Are you American-educated? Where are you posting from?

Evasion gets you the full unsparing treatment here. Prepare to get NUKED until you finally and DIRECTLY answer.

Solar

Quote from: quiller on April 19, 2012, 11:26:05 AM
And this troll again ignores direct questions.

Are you American-educated? Where are you posting from?

Evasion gets you the full unsparing treatment here. Prepare to get NUKED until you finally and DIRECTLY answer.
By not answering the question, its apparent hes not a U.S. citizen by birth.
His evasive nature in avoiding answering my other questions is also proof he knows I'm right and would expose the flaw in his thinking.
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Quote from: walkstall on April 19, 2012, 09:49:42 AM

You forgot Respectfully.

WalksTall, posting that message was one of those infrequent times that I included everything; I forgot nothing.

Respectfully, Supposn

Solar

Quote from: Supposn on April 19, 2012, 11:20:48 AM
Solar, I tried and believe I've succeeded to answer all your questions RELATIVE TO the Import Certificate policy that I support.  If you believe I've overlooked something, you can specifically point that out.  I try to explicitly answer explicit questions.

Explicitly state what are the specific questions that you believe I have not addressed?  You disagree with many of my prior statements and answers.  That does not constitute the evasion of a question.

The trade policy requires importers to surrender ICs covering the assessed values of their goods entering the USA.  You consider that as micro-managing foreign nations; I do not. If you're correct, every nation currently demanding a tariff or a fee for U.S. products entering their nation is currently micro-managing the USA.

An IC policy will be of net economic benefit to USA but it's particularly beneficial to our nation's wage earning families.  Our current policy of seeking pure free trade reduces our GDP more than otherwise; (otherwise being our nation having adopted an IC trade policy).  Our current trade policy is particularly detrimental to wage earning families.

I gave you explicit questions, but it obviously your intention to play ignorant in your understanding them.
QuoteIf charity is to be our national policy, it should be funded from the federal budget and be borne by all taxpayers.  Wage earning families are the poorest working families and are among the poorer segments of our population.  They should not pay a disproportionate portion of our trade deficit's detrimental effect upon our GDP.
This statement is proof of your socialist core belief.
Charity in America is a personal responsibility, not the governments!

QuoteAny nation that would be reluctant to trade with the USA will do themselves much more harm than their harm to the USA.  The USA is still a rich market.  If Japan or China wants to discard their shares of USA's markets, other nations including ourselves will fill in the gap.
Wrong, there are many countries that don't trade with us.
If say Japan decided to retaliate, it would hurt us far more than it would them.

QuoteI'm unwilling to betray the best interests of USA's economy and our wage earners to serve the interests of any foreign nations.
This will do nothing for the wage earner, other than raise their cost of living expense.
 
QuoteI'm in general disagreement with your reply #91.

Allow me to give you an example of interfering with trade.
You have a lemonade stand, you sell your product at a fair price, your customers return because you're not only fair, but make a quality product.
Now comes regulations by the gov. I want you to read through this article and observe a common theme, that theme being the gov playing favorites in the free mkt.
Which is exactly what your tax scheme does, it plays favorite towards exporters, while penalizing importers.
That is not how a FREE mkt works, you are not proposing a level playing field.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2011/08/03/the-inexplicable-war-on-lemonade-stands/
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quiller

Quote from: Supposn on April 19, 2012, 11:37:30 AM
WalksTall, posting that message was one of those infrequent times that I included everything; I forgot nothing.

Respectfully, Supposn


Did you forget where you're from, and where you were educated? Why can't you answer a basic question, but instead think we are so stupid that we do not notice your evasions?

quiller

Quote from: Solar on April 19, 2012, 11:33:07 AM
By not answering the question, its apparent hes not a U.S. citizen by birth.
His evasive nature in avoiding answering my other questions is also proof he knows I'm right and would expose the flaw in his thinking.

Whether you're right or wrong is not my issue. I smelled troll from his first question to me, and I am thus far 3-0 asking him essentially the same two questions. (The 3 being the asking, the 0 being the answers.)

walkstall

Quote from: Supposn on April 19, 2012, 11:37:30 AM
WalksTall, posting that message was one of those infrequent times that I included everything; I forgot nothing.

Respectfully, Supposn

From my post you can see that it is walkstall little t.   I understand the W as it is the start of a sentences.   I am not a programmer in good standing.   :ohmy:
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Solar

Quote from: quiller on April 19, 2012, 12:26:53 PM
Whether you're right or wrong is not my issue. I smelled troll from his first question to me, and I am thus far 3-0 asking him essentially the same two questions. (The 3 being the asking, the 0 being the answers.)
The only thing certain, is he's from new Jersey if I remember correctly.
I'm more curious where he was brainwashed into believing socialism actually has a chance at success, considering its never worked once anywhere in the world...
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Quote from: walkstall on April 19, 2012, 12:30:25 PM

From my post you can see that it is walkstall little t.   I understand the W as it is the start of a sentences.   I am not a programmer in good standing.   :ohmy:

And, may I add, you are the only wt still standing!  :thumbsup: