Started by taxed, April 24, 2021, 02:56:05 PM
Quote from: Hoofer on April 24, 2021, 10:55:19 PMWithout R&D ... do you ever learn to appreciate the innovators? Two wastebaskets, packed with "mistakes", learning how to make a very tiny mechanism, over years.Heard some guy mutter, "I could do that...". I don't think so.That "thin layer" Jobs mentions, IMO, is the appearance of the finished product. The time spent doing R&D - looking back - had I known back then, what I know now - forget it. The money spent... OMG, I could have been fishing!What's really strange, to hear someone say they desperately want to "start a business", with some innovative, unique, new idea or product - but, can't think of anything to develop (and probably lack the patience). "Help me come up with some ideas & can market... you know, something you don't want to mess with, that I could make money at." Do I just hand them my credit cards?
Quote from: dickfoster on April 25, 2021, 01:22:55 AMAs a veteran of 8 startups and developer of 2 or 3 innovations that touch almost everyones life today I think I just might have some skin in the game. But I don't know how I could have done anything else with my life. It wasn't a choice that I was free to make. You do what ya gotta do.
Quote from: Hoofer on April 25, 2021, 02:01:34 AMI'm with you! 3 startups, working on the 4th, and with this one, 3 things that are entirely unique, I produce at home & sell.Some ideas are just, too good to pass on - and I gotta admit, the best ideas come from idiots (not stupid people, but, people who still have unpolluted, raw ideas, which trigger greater ideas). I *wish* I could do... "this" - hmmmm.....The WORST are the armchair engineers, IMO, who never successfully designed or built anything. Leaving nothing to chance, everything is over-engineered to the point of unworkability & impracticable - definitely beyond the price anyone would pay.
Quote from: dickfoster on April 25, 2021, 02:57:31 AMI'm not real sure but I think you just called me an idiot. Crazy l am but stupid I'm not.
Quote from: Hoofer on April 25, 2021, 06:19:38 AMIdiot / ignorance = doesn't know, no working knowledge - for me, they've been quite valuable for fresh ideas.Stupid = willful ignorance.Lazy = all of us to some degree, some are lifetime experts.You're in good company.Arm Chair Engineer ... somewhere between Stupid & Lazy. I QUIT asking for their advice, because it's *always* been the same, "It won't work". When it *does* work, "That's not the same idea we talked about."
Quote from: dickfoster on April 25, 2021, 06:42:20 AMThat's funny, we both use the very same definition of stupid.I'm used to being called crazy but I've been vindicated more than once in my own time when I was proven in time to be absolutely on target and correct, the people calling me crazy simply lacked the necessary forward vision.
Quote from: Hoofer on April 25, 2021, 06:50:04 AMWell said. I've been willing to invest the time & money to try for success. And been called "high risk".How do I wish to be found dead - staring at a TV, or chasing a dream?
Quote from: dickfoster on April 25, 2021, 06:56:37 AMIf it isn't high risk, there's no money to be made. Anybody can do the easy and obvious therefore there's no money to be made doing it.
Quote from: Hoofer on April 25, 2021, 10:36:30 AM You know, if Marxists ran this nation, innovation would cease. Equal outcome, they are anti-innovation, anti-technology - unless it's performed under the watchful eyes of "geniuses" like AOC.