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List taken from:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_federal_agencies_in_the_United_States
Click the link to figure out how BLOATED each one really is...

My pick is:  United States Department of the Interior, which encompasses some real winners.

Bureau of Indian Affairs - (what is this for?  Didn't we force them onto the Reservation a century ago?)
Bureau of Land Management - (give it all back to the states, the Fed should not own LAND)
Bureau of Ocean Energy Management - (must be a "cherry" job!)
Bureau of Reclamation - (give it to the states)
Bureau of Safety and Environmental Enforcement (nothing like some out-of-towner telling you how to do things - give it to the states)
Fish and Wildlife Service - (give it all back to the states, they don't need overlapping services)
National Park Service - (give it all back to the states, the Fed should not own LAND)
Office of Insular Affairs - (so... we need something to encompass everything that was missed...?)
Office of Surface Mining - (give it to the states)
National Mine Map Repository - (put it online, and close down the department)
United States Geological Survey - (Google did a better job of it in 10 years than the Fed in 100, put it online and close the dept)

Let the STATES manage the land within their borders.  They can do it cheaper and at a profit!

 Department of Agriculture
Department of Commerce
Department of Defense
Department of Education
Department of Energy
Department of Health and Human Services
Department of Homeland Security
Department of Housing and Urban Development
Department of the Interior
Department of Justice
Department of Labor
Department of State
Department of Transportation
Department of the Treasury
Department of Veterans Affairs


That's all, 15? I have checked all, but it said I checked too many. :biggrin:

Quote from: Solar on August 21, 2015, 02:03:50 PM
Department of Agriculture
Department of Commerce
Department of Defense
Department of Education
Department of Energy
Department of Health and Human Services
Department of Homeland Security
Department of Housing and Urban Development
Department of the Interior
Department of Justice
Department of Labor
Department of State
Department of Transportation
Department of the Treasury
Department of Veterans Affairs


That's all, 15? I have checked all, but it said I checked too many. :biggrin:

He said you could only check 10 of them.   :lol:  :lol:

Where are the other 30 or so.  There are like all government Departments, each one has departments within departments.

Quote from: walkstall on August 21, 2015, 02:28:49 PM
He said you could only check 10 of them.   :lol:  :lol:

Where are the other 30 or so.  There are like all government Departments, each one has departments within departments.

Yeah, and to think, we had a dept of War, and in truth, that was it and managed to become the strongest nation in history of civilization, now we have roughly 300 mini bureaucracies and none of them necessary.

Well now...  seeing the Department of Education is high on the list, what sub-departments are neatly hidden under it's umbrella?


United States Department of Education

Office of the Secretary (OS)

    Office of Communications and Outreach (OCO)
    Office of the General Counsel (OGC)
    Office of Inspector General
    Office of Legislation and Congressional Affairs (OLCA)
    Office for Civil Rights (OCR)
    Office of Educational Technology (OET) (bringing Internet to schools [and throw away the books...])
    Institute of Education Sciences (IES) (It is a significant source of scientifically based research for compliance with the No Child Left Behind Act of 2001)
        National Center for Education Statistics (NCES)
            National Assessment of Educational Progress (NAEP)
            Education Resources Information Center (ERIC)
    Office of Innovation and Improvement (OII)
    Office of the Chief Financial Officer
    Office of Management
    Office of the Chief Information Officer
    Office of Planning, Evaluation and Policy Development
           Budget Service
    Risk Management Service

Office of the Under Secretary (OUS)

    Office of Postsecondary Education (OPE)
    Office of Vocational and Adult Education (OVAE)
    Office of Federal Student Aid (FSA)
    President's Advisory Board on Tribal Colleges and Universities (WHITCU)
    President's Advisory Board on Historically Black Colleges and Universities (WHIHBCU)

Office of the Deputy Secretary (ODS) / Chief Operating Officer

    Office of Elementary and Secondary Education (OESE)
        Office of Migrant Education (OME)
        Office of Safe and Healthy Students (OSHS)
        Student Achievement and School Accountability Programs (SASA)
        White House Initiative on Asian Americans and Pacific Islanders (AAPI) (On October 14, 2009, President Obama signed Executive Order 13515)
        White House Initiative on Educational Excellence for Hispanics (This one has HW Bush, B. Clinton, GW Bush, & B. Obama - all keeping it alive - like they're trying to out-pander each other for the Hispanic VOTE!)
        White House Initiative on American Indian and Alaska Native Education
        White House Initiative on Educational Excellence for African Americans
    Office of English Language Acquisition, Language Enhancement and Academic Achievement for Limited English Proficient Students (OELA)  (...ah, we've acquired quite a long list of new languages recently, haven't we?)
    Office of Special Education and Rehabilitative Services (OSERS)
        National Institute on Disability and Rehabilitation Research (NIDRR)
        Office of Special Education Programs (OSEP)
        Rehabilitation Services Administration (RSA)
    Office of Innovation and Improvement (adding ART to school...?)

Associated federal organizations

    Advisory Councils and Committees
    National Assessment Governing Board (NAGB)[1]
    National Advisory Council on Indian Education (NACIE)
    Federal Interagency Committee on Education (FICE)
    Advisory Commission on Accessible Instructional Materials in Postsecondary Education for Students with Disabilities
    National Board for Education Sciences
    National Board of the Fund for the Improvement of Postsecondary Education (FIPSE)

Federally aided organizations

    Gallaudet University
    Howard University
    National Technical Institute for the Deaf

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Liberals really need this Department, it's a great way to funnel lots of tax payers money to themselves!
If the INTERNET is so important to schools, why do we still need brick-'n-mortar buildings? (Oh, silly me, I forget about breakfast, lunch, dinner)

18 Trillion in debt and hundreds of Trillions in unfunded liabilities.  Defund it and let the states and local school boards handle it.

Quote from: Solar on August 21, 2015, 02:03:50 PM
Department of Agriculture
Department of Commerce
Department of Defense
Department of Education
Department of Energy
Department of Health and Human Services
Department of Homeland Security
Department of Housing and Urban Development
Department of the Interior
Department of Justice
Department of Labor
Department of State
Department of Transportation
Department of the Treasury
Department of Veterans Affairs


That's all, 15? I have checked all, but it said I checked too many. :biggrin:

Yeah told me I checked too many too. That said though, a few of the "options" are Constitutionally created. Like the Secretary of State and Department of defense. So I took them off and it let me vote.  :lol:

You can make at least a decent case for the DOT, also.

Quote from: kj4adn on August 22, 2015, 03:23:54 PM
Well now...  seeing the Department of Education is high on the list, what sub-departments are neatly hidden under it's umbrella?


United States Department of Education

Office of the Secretary (OS)

    Office of Communications and Outreach (OCO)
    Office of the General Counsel (OGC)
    Office of Inspector General
    Office of Legislation and Congressional Affairs (OLCA)
    Office for Civil Rights (OCR)
    Office of Educational Technology (OET) (bringing Internet to schools [and throw away the books...])
    Institute of Education Sciences (IES) (It is a significant source of scientifically based research for compliance with the No Child Left Behind Act of 2001)
        National Center for Education Statistics (NCES)
            National Assessment of Educational Progress (NAEP)
            Education Resources Information Center (ERIC)
    Office of Innovation and Improvement (OII)
    Office of the Chief Financial Officer
    Office of Management
    Office of the Chief Information Officer
    Office of Planning, Evaluation and Policy Development
           Budget Service
    Risk Management Service

Office of the Under Secretary (OUS)

    Office of Postsecondary Education (OPE)
    Office of Vocational and Adult Education (OVAE)
    Office of Federal Student Aid (FSA)
    President's Advisory Board on Tribal Colleges and Universities (WHITCU)
    President's Advisory Board on Historically Black Colleges and Universities (WHIHBCU)

Office of the Deputy Secretary (ODS) / Chief Operating Officer

    Office of Elementary and Secondary Education (OESE)
        Office of Migrant Education (OME)
        Office of Safe and Healthy Students (OSHS)
        Student Achievement and School Accountability Programs (SASA)
        White House Initiative on Asian Americans and Pacific Islanders (AAPI) (On October 14, 2009, President Obama signed Executive Order 13515)
        White House Initiative on Educational Excellence for Hispanics (This one has HW Bush, B. Clinton, GW Bush, & B. Obama - all keeping it alive - like they're trying to out-pander each other for the Hispanic VOTE!)
        White House Initiative on American Indian and Alaska Native Education
        White House Initiative on Educational Excellence for African Americans
    Office of English Language Acquisition, Language Enhancement and Academic Achievement for Limited English Proficient Students (OELA)  (...ah, we've acquired quite a long list of new languages recently, haven't we?)
    Office of Special Education and Rehabilitative Services (OSERS)
        National Institute on Disability and Rehabilitation Research (NIDRR)
        Office of Special Education Programs (OSEP)
        Rehabilitation Services Administration (RSA)
    Office of Innovation and Improvement (adding ART to school...?)

Associated federal organizations

    Advisory Councils and Committees
    National Assessment Governing Board (NAGB)[1]
    National Advisory Council on Indian Education (NACIE)
    Federal Interagency Committee on Education (FICE)
    Advisory Commission on Accessible Instructional Materials in Postsecondary Education for Students with Disabilities
    National Board for Education Sciences
    National Board of the Fund for the Improvement of Postsecondary Education (FIPSE)

Federally aided organizations

    Gallaudet University
    Howard University
    National Technical Institute for the Deaf

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Liberals really need this Department, it's a great way to funnel lots of tax payers money to themselves!
If the INTERNET is so important to schools, why do we still need brick-'n-mortar buildings? (Oh, silly me, I forget about breakfast, lunch, dinner)

18 Trillion in debt and hundreds of Trillions in unfunded liabilities.  Defund it and let the states and local school boards handle it.

Federal Aid to Education is unconstitutional. Cut it off at the knees. Oh, wait, Saint Ronnie was going to do that along with the Dept of Energy.

Let's by all means chop the Dept of Homeland Security in the ass. It started under Bush 2 as a make work project for Tom Ridge. Two useless POS.

I'd be happy if each department's funding was cut in half.   Or, cut out half of the sub-departments... and half the budget.

Quote from: kj4adn on September 22, 2015, 02:21:51 PM
I'd be happy if each department's funding was cut in half.   Or, cut out half of the sub-departments... and half the budget.

It will not happen voluntarily. It will take a default by the government, and the grief that will cause will be astronomical.

If we did privatize all the Federal Land, who would get it? A little bit to each citizen?

The states never had it in the first place, except maybe the thirteen colonies.

Quote from: Wyatt5 on December 03, 2015, 05:18:25 AM
If we did privatize all the Federal Land, who would get it? A little bit to each citizen?

The states never had it in the first place, except maybe the thirteen colonies.

Which ever entity that pays the most. The US government owns too much land that could be generating revenue in private hands.

Quote from: Wyatt5 on December 03, 2015, 05:18:25 AM
If we did privatize all the Federal Land, who would get it? A little bit to each citizen?

The states never had it in the first place, except maybe the thirteen colonies.

Release every acre to the States, and let them decide how best to utilize the land.

Quote from: Solar on December 03, 2015, 05:49:41 AM
Release every acre to the States, and let them decide how best to utilize the land.

Excellent idea. The states would manage the situation much better than the feds.

Quote from: Solar on December 03, 2015, 05:49:41 AM
Release every acre to the States, and let them decide how best to utilize the land.

That or the counties within the states that they fall in. 

Quote from: walkstall on December 03, 2015, 08:18:25 AM
That or the counties within the states that they fall in.

Better yet. :thumbup:

Quote from: Solar on December 03, 2015, 11:00:25 AM
Better yet. :thumbup:

The more local the better.

Looking at this again, one thing is clear:  We can do without over half the federal departments.   They are really unnecessary at a federal level, period.  Some of them might be useful at a state level, I think people can best decide that in their own localities.