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Florida mother to be evicted from home unless she gets vaccinated

Started by Sick Of Silence, September 22, 2021, 01:59:38 AM

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p1tchblack

Quote from: Possum on Today at 07:26:03 AMthey had wedding cakes on display, they did not have one with two girls on the top as the owner did not make those. they asked for a special custom one made that he did not make, had no history of making, and no plans to start making them. How is that discrimination? It's not and the court agreed.

Outside of the plastic piece on top, which no baker makes, can you explain the difference between a gay and straight wedding cake?
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Possum

Quote from: p1tchblack on Today at 08:08:11 AMOutside of the plastic piece on top, which no baker makes, can you explain the difference between a gay and straight wedding cake?
It does not matter what my definition was/is/ or will be. What does matter, the couple wanted a cake that the owner did not make, never did make, or have plans to make. The court agreed that was his right not to make something he does not make and more important this was not discrimination. That should settle this issue.
 But to get back on thread, in the case of the owner suddenly wanted to see vaccine proof, he has no history of ever wanting this before, and there have been vaccines before, he did not close up shop before the vaccine was available, and he is in a public business that has rules against discrimination. He is in a world where medical records of others are none of his business. Florida is very clear, you can not discriminate because you want to see vaccine passports. 

Sick Of Silence

Quote from: p1tchblack on Today at 08:08:11 AMOutside of the plastic piece on top, which no baker makes, can you explain the difference between a gay and straight wedding cake?

If they wanted rainbows and unicorns and other gay crap on it, then I would think it would be.

 :mellow:
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p1tchblack

Quote from: Possum on Today at 08:23:53 AMIt does not matter what my definition was/is/ or will be. What does matter, the couple wanted a cake that the owner did not make, never did make, or have plans to make. The court agreed that was his right not to make something he does not make and more important this was not discrimination. That should settle this issue.
 But to get back on thread, in the case of the owner suddenly wanted to see vaccine proof, he has no history of ever wanting this before, and there have been vaccines before, he did not close up shop before the vaccine was available, and he is in a public business that has rules against discrimination. He is in a world where medical records of others are none of his business. Florida is very clear, you can not discriminate because you want to see vaccine passports.

No  the courts didn't rule on the legality or whether it was discrimination.  The court kicked the can down the road.

So  amI right that gay and straight needing cakes have the same ingredients?  There's no gay flour or gay eggs, right?

An ID card isn't a medical record.  You are implying that there would be a HIPAA violation and I don't see any basis for that.
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Possum

Quote from: p1tchblack on Today at 10:36:04 AMNo  the courts didn't rule on the legality or whether it was discrimination.  The court kicked the can down the road.

So  amI right that gay and straight needing cakes have the same ingredients?  There's no gay flour or gay eggs, right?

An ID card isn't a medical record.  You are implying that there would be a HIPAA violation and I don't see any basis for that.
Two small details you left out, the courts did not find the baker guilty of discrimination, and in Florida you can not ask for a vaccine passport.

p1tchblack

Quote from: Possum on Today at 10:46:02 AMTwo small details you left out, the courts did not find the baker guilty of discrimination, and in Florida you can not ask for a vaccine passport.

The courts didn't rule on the discrimination aspect. Again, they kicked the can down the road.

Florida will fine you if you do, but I'm saying the own should have the right to determine who he rents to.

Legalities are secondary, in this case, to the point I'm trying to make.
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T Hunt

Quote from: p1tchblack on Today at 04:09:53 AMDo you have a link to the law that you keep referencing?

You need a link to the constitution? Sorry, not allowed to discriminate for no reason.

T Hunt

Quote from: p1tchblack on Today at 06:45:24 AMI do have a problem with discrimination, just as I have an issue with people using racial slurs or burning the flag but, I support the right of people to use racial slurs and burn the flag as part of free speech. 

So, do you believe Masterpiece Cake Shop should be forced to make a cake for a gay wedding?

Why would they? Thats religion. Covid is science fiction. Do you think we should force all people to show proof of whether they love star wars?