Quote from: Solar on September 01, 2023, 08:26:04 AMSo we're po believe hey actually updated a document from 2019?                     
You'll believe anything hey feed you!

Hey, they sprinkled fairy dust on it this time, now it's believable.      

Quote from: ZenMode on September 01, 2023, 08:36:53 AMWhy wouldn't/couldn't they update it?

I have to ask, with all the lies the LSM and democrats have told the American people, why do you go to them for sources? Do you believe everything Jean-Pierre tells the press?

Quote from: ZenMode on September 01, 2023, 10:58:51 AMI don't trust anything from any news source. They all lie, misrepresent and present opinion as fact.

Jean-Pierre's job is to lie on demand.

In this case, it isn't about trusting a specific media source.  It's about what ultimately makes the most sense and seems like the most reasonable and likely answer.

But I have yet to see you take any stance other than the one the government puts out. Just as an example, those in charge of medical opinions for the handling of covid, did several 180 degree turns. For starters they changed the definition of what a vaccination is for the purpose of calling the jab a vaccine, followed by masks were bad, no distancing no lockdowns and later endorsed all of those in their gameplan. And you still back them, worse, you still push their agenda. Why?

Quote from: ZenMode on September 01, 2023, 10:58:51 AMI don't trust anything from any news source. They all lie, misrepresent and present opinion as fact.

Jean-Pierre's job is to lie on demand.

In this case, it isn't about trusting a specific media source.  It's about what ultimately makes the most sense and seems like the most reasonable and likely answer.

Yet you use Reuters with impunity, as if the core of leftist media carries any credibility.
You've used the lying "Factcheck" media site as if it even as an inkling of credibility in support of your arguments, then have the audacity to claim OANN is not a trusted news site.

We've asked over and over, why do you carry the Marxists water against American culture?
All the evidence is on display, that they plan of a communist style fascist Govt in the end.
Why do you support that?

Quote from: Solar on September 02, 2023, 05:34:43 AMYet you use Reuters with impunity, as if the core of leftist media carries any credibility.
You've used the lying "Factcheck" media site as if it even as an inkling of credibility in support of your arguments, then have the audacity to claim OANN is not a trusted news site.

We've asked over and over, why do you carry the Marxists water against American culture?
All the evidence is on display, that they plan of a communist style fascist Govt in the end.
Why do you support that?

I don't believe in trusting any one news sources.  I also don't believe in trusting news sources simply because they are saying something different than a mainstream news source or have a convoluted narrative.

It's about trying to figure out the truth and, if you can't, trying to figured out as much of the truth as you can and changing my opinion when new info comes out.

Quote from: ZenMode on September 02, 2023, 07:08:14 AMI don't believe in trusting any one news sources.  I also don't believe in trusting news sources simply because they are saying something different than a mainstream news source or have a convoluted narrative.

It's about trying to figure out the truth and, if you can't, trying to figured out as much of the truth as you can and changing my opinion when new info comes out.

Either you're delusional, or support the Marxist movement!
There are two sources of news, left or Right, and we know based on evidence, the LSM lies with impunity and supported by the Marxist narrative running through their core.

While the Right runs against the leftist narrative, yet you want to claim you're somehow able to see past both sides?
Tell me, do you even have any core values where the US culture is concerned?

Based on what the left is doing to our Nation, why is it you don't stand against their plan for global domination?

Quote from: Solar on September 02, 2023, 07:32:22 AMEither you're delusional, or support the Marxist movement!
There are two sources of news, left or Right, and we know based on evidence, the LSM lies with impunity and supported by the Marxist narrative running through their core.

While the Right runs against the leftist narrative, yet you want to claim you're somehow able to see past both sides?
Tell me, do you even have any core values where the US culture is concerned?

Based on what the left is doing to our Nation, why is it you don't stand against their plan for global domination?

I could post links to websites that are as far left as this one is right. On those sites, Republicans are referred to as fascist, totalitarian and dictators. Do I think there are people on both sides who have fascist, Marxist or totalitarian ideas and intentions? Yes. But I don't ascribe evil intentions to everyone on the left or right because of a few bad apples I think there are bad ideas. Universal basic income is a bad idea. Disallowing abortion even in a situation of rape I think is a bad idea, but if you listen to the reasoning of the people who support these ideas, you will hear that they are not coming from a place of evil intent. They actually have good intentions even if the ideas are bad.

But, in order to understand the other side, you have to be open to listening to them and actually be open to the possibility that they aren't evil Marxist or totalitarians or whatever else.

Quote from: ZenMode on September 02, 2023, 08:14:07 AMI could post links to websites that are as far left as this one is right. On those sites, Republicans are referred to as fascist, totalitarian and dictators. Do I think there are people on both sides who have fascist, Marxist or totalitarian ideas and intentions? Yes. But I don't ascribe evil intentions to everyone on the left or right because of a few bad apples I think there are bad ideas. Universal basic income is a bad idea. Disallowing abortion even in a situation of rape I think is a bad idea, but if you listen to the reasoning of the people who support these ideas, you will hear that they are not coming from a place of evil intent. They actually have good intentions even if the ideas are bad.

But, in order to understand the other side, you have to be open to listening to them and actually be open to the possibility that they aren't evil Marxist or totalitarians or whatever else.

No, there is but one party, the Uniparty, and yes, a majority of the GOP Establishment IS Evil and Corrupt and fascist corporatist warmongers!

As to your abortion BS, it is solely a States Rights issue, roe was a unconstitutional decision, and SCOTUS finally addressed it based on the Constitution, it was never to be decided on emotion, as they did!

And the DNC is doing all they can to bring about the WEF's version of the "New World Order", or have you forgotten Obozos speech on "Fundamentally Changing America"?

How in the fuck do you not see it for what it is?

Dude, I've been living politics and history for over 4 decades, I pay far more attention to what is going on than you will ever understand.

Quote from: ZenMode on September 02, 2023, 08:14:07 AMI could post links to websites that are as far left as this one is right. On those sites, Republicans are referred to as fascist, totalitarian and dictators. Do I think there are people on both sides who have fascist, Marxist or totalitarian ideas and intentions? Yes. But I don't ascribe evil intentions to everyone on the left or right because of a few bad apples I think there are bad ideas. Universal basic income is a bad idea. Disallowing abortion even in a situation of rape I think is a bad idea, but if you listen to the reasoning of the people who support these ideas, you will hear that they are not coming from a place of evil intent. They actually have good intentions even if the ideas are bad.

But, in order to understand the other side, you have to be open to listening to them and actually be open to the possibility that they aren't evil Marxist or totalitarians or whatever else.

Despite your claims that all media lies, there is truth being provided, like that of he actual source of the evidence, the County.
Are you going to attempt to claim all their evidence is a lie as well?
Scroll through the actual investigation, images at the bottom!

https://www.judicialwatch.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/Fresno-Chinese-Labs-California-Public-Records-Act-2023.pdf

It was pretty much a shell game...


Behind a Secret Chinese Biolab in California, a Global Web of Connections
Chinese companies related to the biolab have a troubling history in the United States, Canada, Hong Kong, and a handful of other countries.

Jessie Zhu's Operations
Mr. Zhu was born in China in 1961 and obtained a Bachelor of Science degree from the Beijing University Medical Department in 1984 and a master's degree from the Peking Union Medical College Hospital in 1988. He went on to conduct bio research at the University of British Columbia in Canada, according to Sina Finance.

In 1991, Mr. Zhu established IND Dairytech Ltd in Vancouver and became chairman of the board.

In the late 1990s, Mr. Zhu flew a dozen Holstein cattle (a breed known for high milk production) from Quebec to Beijing to enhance milk production in China, where it was in great need.

A decade later, Mr. Zhu's focus switched to breeding technologies. Rather than transporting cattle to China, IND Dairytech began sending Holstein semen and embryos in an effort to develop cattle herds.

Primarily serving customers in Canada, IND Dairytech was listed on the Toronto Stock Exchange in 2008, delisted in 2011, and acquired shortly afterward by IND Lifetech, another company controlled by Mr. Zhu.

The Chinese characters of "Ai De" are also in the upper left corner of IND Lifetech's logo.

Not long after IND Lifetech acquired IND Dairytech, it changed its name to JingJing Genetics, still based in Canada and controlled by Mr. Zhu.

In 2008, JingJing Genetics was sued by XY LLC, a Colorado-based company that claimed damages for "conspiracy, deceit, breach of confidence, breach of contract, and inducing breach of contract."

XY had developed the technology to "choose the sex of the offspring using sexed semen or sexed embryos" for "non-human mammals, including cattle, horses, pigs, and endangered species," according to an online statement.

The company was "the master licensee in control of all sperm sorting in non-human mammals worldwide."

JingJing Genetics was allegedly stealing XY's technology to manufacture and sell bovine sexed semen, but without the strict controls required from a licensee.

The case was decided in 2012, with the judge ruling against JingJing Genetics for violating intellectual property agreements.

It's a long article, but it exposes sooo much. H/T to Epochtimes.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/article/behind-a-secret-chinese-biolab-in-california-a-global-web-of-connections-5498112?utm_source=partner&utm_campaign=ZeroHedge&src_src=partner&src_cmp=ZeroHedge