Quote from: ZenMode on September 05, 2023, 06:35:49 AMFair enough.  The claim was that the FDA and/or CDC was "investigating" doctors for prescribing Ivermectin.  There is no evidence of that. A Tweet is not "investigating".

Really, who claimed that, you? Show us where that is the case in what I posted. This is you creating strawmen!    

Quote from: Solar on September 05, 2023, 06:38:34 AMReally, who claimed that, you? Show us where that is the case in what I posted. This is you creating strawmen!    

Possum did in posts 6, 8 and 15. 

Quote from: ZenMode on September 05, 2023, 06:35:49 AMFair enough.  The claim was that the FDA and/or CDC was "investigating" doctors for prescribing Ivermectin.  There is no evidence of that. A Tweet is not "investigating".

What do you think the court case had to deal with? What was the 5th court talking about?       

Quote from: ZenMode on September 05, 2023, 07:57:27 AMPossum did in posts 6, 8 and 15. 

Mire strawman bullshit! I wasn't referencing anyone but you and the court! I specifically stated "Show us where that is the case in what I posted"!

Quote from: Possum on September 05, 2023, 08:36:36 AMWhat do you think the court case had to deal with? What was the 5th court talking about?       

The Tweet that the doctors believe is somehow wrongdoing by the FDA, because it's telling doctors what to do.

Quote from: ZenMode on September 05, 2023, 11:14:16 AMThe Tweet that the doctors believe is somehow wrongdoing by the FDA, because it's telling doctors what to do.

You didn't read the court case did you? It was not "about a tweet". It was about Dr's rights.

Quote from: Possum on September 05, 2023, 12:44:53 PMYou didn't read the court case did you? It was not "about a tweet". It was about Dr's rights.

He loves those LSM headlines, it's how he forms opinions.    

Quote from: Possum on September 05, 2023, 12:44:53 PMYou didn't read the court case did you? It was not "about a tweet". It was about Dr's rights.

What is the basis for their claim that their rights have been violated?

Quote from: ZenMode on September 05, 2023, 06:45:53 PMWhat is the basis for their claim that their rights have been violated?

Do your own research.

Quote from: Possum on September 06, 2023, 04:28:13 AMDo your own research.

Done.  The doctors are claiming that the FDA overstepped it's authority, and broke federal law in the process,with it's "You're not a horse" campaign" because it didn't mention often enough that it actually has usefulness for adults.  I didn't see anything about individual doctors being targeted for legal action, suspension,etc.  The FDA has no authority to do that. They also don't have the power to tell doctors what they can/can't prescribe and no entity is trying to wipe out Ivermectin, as was claimed early on.

The ruling acknowledged FDA's receiving reports of some people requiring hospitalization after self-medicating with ivermectin intended for livestock. But the ruling said the campaign — which at times featured the slogan "You are not a horse!" — too often left out that the drug is sometimes prescribed for humans.

The doctors can proceed with their lawsuit contending that the FDA's campaign exceeded the agency's authority under federal law, the ruling said.

https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-ivermectin-fda-doctors-lawsuit-bbc8d4fc726c08940ae4b0dad70170e0

Quote from: ZenMode on September 06, 2023, 05:32:31 AMDone.  The doctors are claiming that the FDA overstepped it's authority, and broke federal law in the process,with it's "You're not a horse" campaign" because it didn't mention often enough that it actually has usefulness for adults.  I didn't see anything about individual doctors being targeted for legal action, suspension,etc.  The FDA has no authority to do that. They also don't have the power to tell doctors what they can/can't prescribe and no entity is trying to wipe out Ivermectin, as was claimed early on.

The ruling acknowledged FDA's receiving reports of some people requiring hospitalization after self-medicating with ivermectin intended for livestock. But the ruling said the campaign — which at times featured the slogan "You are not a horse!" — too often left out that the drug is sometimes prescribed for humans.

The doctors can proceed with their lawsuit contending that the FDA's campaign exceeded the agency's authority under federal law, the ruling said.

https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-ivermectin-fda-doctors-lawsuit-bbc8d4fc726c08940ae4b0dad70170e0

Great job of cherry picking. !!!!  The 5th court has just a little more to say about the case.

Quote from: Possum on September 06, 2023, 05:43:19 AMGreat job of cherry picking. !!!!  The 5th court has just a little more to say about the case.

He just hates it when people usurp the power of Govt when it plays dictator, all the while failing to recognize the fact that it was probably one single bean fuckin counter wielding his nonexistent penis in the air for power.

This little commie doesn't realize the govt is packed full of people seeking some form of power over the populace.  is Zen and his ilk in govt is the reason the Base is hell bent on taking power away from the Fed.

Quote from: Possum on September 06, 2023, 05:43:19 AMGreat job of cherry picking. !!!!  The 5th court has just a little more to say about the case.

No doubt both sides will, but I bet none of it is going to be how the situation was portrayed on the first page of the thread. 

Why? Because there are laws meant to prevent the Federal Government from doing certain things especially when the state has jurisdiction.  We should all be happy that the BIGGEST gripe we've heard from the medical community, as it relates to the actions of the FDA, is that a marketing campaign may have crossed a line and wasn't diligent enough in calling out that Ivermectin is absolutely safe for humans when prescribed correctly and not by Gus at the feed store. 

Quote from: ZenMode on September 06, 2023, 06:19:05 AMNo doubt both sides will, but I bet none of it is going to be how the situation was portrayed on the first page of the thread. 

Why? Because there are laws meant to prevent the Federal Government from doing certain things especially when the state has jurisdiction.  We should all be happy that the BIGGEST gripe we've heard from the medical community, as it relates to the actions of the FDA, is that a marketing campaign may have crossed a line and wasn't diligent enough in calling out that Ivermectin is absolutely safe for humans when prescribed correctly and not by Gus at the feed store. 

You need to reread what the court case was about and how bad the fda and the cdc overstepped their bounds.

Quote from: Possum on September 06, 2023, 07:27:40 AMYou need to reread what the court case was about and how bad the fda and the cdc overstepped their bounds.

It sees what it wants to see.