Quote from: Solar on July 11, 2023, 08:27:03 AMIt was a Govt hit job for big pharma.
I watched this story when it came out because I knew people involved, and they al said the same thing, that he was helping people with no other options with cancer.

Remember when the Govt allowed big pharma the legal right to release all kinds of cancer meds, even untested ones?
Yeah, right after they hung this guy out to dry.

Several of Young's supporters, including former patients, attended the hearing. Afterward, they defended him and his work, and said he had been unfairly characterized in court. Supporter Brian Claypool said Young's treatments helped one of his family members, and called the court case "a big injustice."

"They ignored all the good he has done, all the people he has helped," Claypool said.

In April, the Osteopathic Medical Board of California revoked the medical license of Dr.Bennie S. Johnson, a physician who worked at the Valley Center Ranch, finding that he had been negligent in the treatment of four patients in 2012 and 2013. Johnson was initially charged along with Young in the criminal case, but a judge dismissed Johnson's charges following his preliminary hearing.

He was helping people or was he a snake oil salesman?  It seems unlikely that his baking soda concoctions were doing anything but bilking desperate people out of their money.

Either way, he's one person making a claim about GO in the vaccines.  His original story isn't accurate when it claims that the ingredients for the vaccines weren't provided. I found ingredients for all of them.

I see no reason to believe the claims of one claim made by one conman.  If there were any truth to the claim, there would be other scientists reporting the same findings.

Quote from: ZenMode on July 11, 2023, 09:59:58 AMHe was helping people or was he a snake oil salesman?  It seems unlikely that his baking soda concoctions were doing anything but bilking desperate people out of their money.

Either way, he's one person making a claim about GO in the vaccines.  His original story isn't accurate when it claims that the ingredients for the vaccines weren't provided. I found ingredients for all of them.

I see no reason to believe the claims of one claim made by one conman. If there were any truth to the claim, there would be other scientists reporting the same findings.

The news media has a very poor track record in that regard. The truth is hidden while the lies are front page news. Think of the Russian hoax and Hunter's laptop. The only ingredients for the vaccine that you have found is the list the government wants you to see.

Quote from: Possum on July 11, 2023, 11:21:23 AMThe news media has a very poor track record in that regard. The truth is hidden while the lies are front page news. Think of the Russian hoax and Hunter's laptop. The only ingredients for the vaccine that you have found is the list the government wants you to see.

The problem starts when people believe anything that runs contrary to what the government or MSM say, regardless of the source.

The guy who wrote the story about GO is a convicted conman and snake-oil salesman and he's the ONLY person making the claim.  Why put any weight into what he says?

Quote from: ZenMode on July 11, 2023, 11:53:28 AMThe problem starts when people believe anything that runs contrary to what the government or MSM say, regardless of the source.

The guy who wrote the story about GO is a convicted conman and snake-oil salesman and he's the ONLY person making the claim.  Why put any weight into what he says?

Hate to tell you this, but there are few if any posters on this forum who can fit that description. But I can tell you there are few on this forum who do not forget. As in the case of the two major newspapers in this country claiming that Hunter Biden's laptop was fake and many of the smaller news agency's quoting them, nightly. Or how the LSM told us nightly that President Trump was telling people to drink chlorine. You're quoting from the San Diego Union Tribune fits that same category.

But back to the topic, Pfizer has already admitted Go is used in the manufacturing, the article is connecting the dots to show how it can get into the jab, and how based on the numbers of adverse reactions this probably occurred. But, glad to see you are up to date on the liberal talking points, seems their latest defense is to go after the messenger.

Quote from: ZenMode on July 11, 2023, 09:59:58 AMHe was helping people or was he a snake oil salesman?  It seems unlikely that his baking soda concoctions were doing anything but bilking desperate people out of their money.

Either way, he's one person making a claim about GO in the vaccines.  His original story isn't accurate when it claims that the ingredients for the vaccines weren't provided. I found ingredients for all of them.

I see no reason to believe the claims of one claim made by one conman.  If there were any truth to the claim, there would be other scientists reporting the same findings.

OK, I've got cancer, the meds I take are my last chance, and when they fail, and they most certainly will, I would be one of those searching for alternatives.
However, I don't really care, I've accepted my fate but, I damn govt when it tells the terminally ill what they can, and cannot use to prolong their lives.

Can you agree with that?
Because that is exactly what happened, he helped a few people extend the quality of their lives, while not perfect for all, it did not injure anyone.
Changing the PH of the blood is one well known treatment for cancer, though mainstream medicine won't practice it because there's no profit in it.

My cancer meds cost the VA $27,000 per month, (No, that is not a typo). Can you imagine having to pay for that out of pocket?
That's why they went after this guy, he was cutting big pharma's bottom-line.

Cancer is a huge industry, and I assure you, there is a cure out there, but they'll never release it.

Quote from: Possum on July 11, 2023, 03:10:39 PMHate to tell you this, but there are few if any posters on this forum who can fit that description. But I can tell you there are few on this forum who do not forget. As in the case of the two major newspapers in this country claiming that Hunter Biden's laptop was fake and many of the smaller news agency's quoting them, nightly. Or how the LSM told us nightly that President Trump was telling people to drink chlorine. You're quoting from the San Diego Union Tribune fits that same category.

But back to the topic, Pfizer has already admitted Go is used in the manufacturing, the article is connecting the dots to show how it can get into the jab, and how based on the numbers of adverse reactions this probably occurred. But, glad to see you are up to date on the liberal talking points, seems their latest defense is to go after the messenger.

He refuses to admit the truth, he thinks his opinion is mainstream, when in truth, only a handful of libs actually believe the lies their media tells them.
I can't wait until Trump is back and all these commies are indicted for their lies and crimes against humanity!

Funny, for a so called "Virus" created in a lab, they already had a patented "vaccine" Jabb just waiting to roll out, but these are those pesky little details libs are told to ignore.

Quote from: Solar on July 11, 2023, 08:12:22 PMOK, I've got cancer, the meds I take are my last chance, and when they fail, and they most certainly will, I would be one of those searching for alternatives.
However, I don't really care, I've accepted my fate but, I damn govt when it tells the terminally ill what they can, and cannot use to prolong their lives.

Can you agree with that?
Because that is exactly what happened, he helped a few people extend the quality of their lives, while not perfect for all, it did not injure anyone.
Changing the PH of the blood is one well known treatment for cancer, though mainstream medicine won't practice it because there's no profit in it.

My cancer meds cost the VA $27,000 per month, (No, that is not a typo). Can you imagine having to pay for that out of pocket?
That's why they went after this guy, he was cutting big pharma's bottom-line.

Cancer is a huge industry, and I assure you, there is a cure out there, but they'll never release it.

I'm not necessarily saying that this guy should have been punished, but we also, as a country, probably don't want just anyone injecting things into people in their basement.  I also get that desperation can lead people to do things that may not regularly do, but do you believe this guy actually had the cure for cancer in whatever concoctions he was injecting?  I don't.

However, I'm not looking to debate the legalities of people choosing to let random people inject them with chemicals.  I'm saying that guy, most likely, is a snake-oil salesman who's siphoning money from desperate people.  This snake-oil salesman is the ONLY person claiming GO is in the vaccines.  Knowing what we know about him, and the fact that he's the only one pushing this as true, why believe him?

Quote from: ZenMode on July 12, 2023, 09:30:02 AMI'm not necessarily saying that this guy should have been punished, but we also, as a country, probably don't want just anyone injecting things into people in their basement.  I also get that desperation can lead people to do things that may not regularly do, but do you believe this guy actually had the cure for cancer in whatever concoctions he was injecting?  I don't.

However, I'm not looking to debate the legalities of people choosing to let random people inject them with chemicals.  I'm saying that guy, most likely, is a snake-oil salesman who's siphoning money from desperate people.  This snake-oil salesman is the ONLY person claiming GO is in the vaccines.  Knowing what we know about him, and the fact that he's the only one pushing this as true, why believe him?

Actually no, what he was doing is well known as a way to fight cancer, as opposed to certain death via chemo.
I agree, there are laws in place to protect the public, but there also should be the freedom to pursue your own treatment.
I was asked if I wanted to pursue chemo, I said, No Fuckin Way, all my doctors laughed.
My doctors all made it quite clear, that chemo is a total farce, but had to list it as an option, but all agreed the drug companies prey on the dying as a last hope.
My diagnosis is a 99% failure on chemo, but they still push it as a 1% possibility of success.

Point being, cancer is a death sentence and regardless, it should be up to the individual.
This guy isn't a quack and he had doctors on staff at his ranch, not a basement.
His research is solid, and that's why they went after him. He is/was a threat to a huge monopoly.