Quote from: ZenMode on July 08, 2023, 07:07:25 PMI'm talking about the specific article and claim in this thread.  The author's claim about GO seems likely to be wrong.

Again, you were proven wrong! Why aren't you attacking the liars and doing your own damn research?

Quote from: Solar on July 09, 2023, 06:19:16 AMAgain, you were proven wrong! Why aren't you attacking the liars and doing your own damn research?

Because the liberal talking points lead him in a different direction. I would say some people believe that strong in the government, but I suspect they do not even follow it that close. I guessing the media and hollywood influence their thinking.

Quote from: Possum on July 09, 2023, 07:06:15 AMBecause the liberal talking points lead him in a different direction. I would say some people believe that strong in the government, but I suspect they do not even follow it that close. I guessing the media and hollywood influence their thinking.

Could it be complete denial that our Govt is run by actual Marxists?
I'm at a loss, in spite of the Overwhelming Evidence that our govt is moving into full blown socialism/Communism, people refuse to see reality.

If one were to list everything the Uniparty had done in just the last two years alone, it would read like a planned takeover of a Nation, but these kids look ate each and every event, and try and excuse them off as conspiracies.

WHY?

Quote from: Solar on July 09, 2023, 06:10:26 AMBut, but, but He posted an AP fact check article, they would never lie?        

What in the Sam hell does he think the term "used in manufacturing" means? As a kid we I heard some of the neighbors "used corn in the manufacturing" of homemade whiskey. Does he care to guess what is in it?     


I quit drinking over twenty years ago, EXCEPT, for when my brother in law brought out some moonshine. Don't know where he got it, didn't ask, but that was the best, smoothest, moonshine i could ever remember having. Brought back lots of good memories.        Now that is a talent we should never lose.

Quote from: Solar on July 09, 2023, 07:13:19 AMCould it be complete denial that our Govt is run by actual Marxists?
I'm at a loss, in spite of the Overwhelming Evidence that our govt is moving into full blown socialism/Communism, people refuse to see reality.

If one were to list everything the Uniparty had done in just the last two years alone, it would read like a planned takeover of a Nation, but these kids look ate each and every event, and try and excuse them off as conspiracies.

WHY?

Wild ass guess, Marxism makes their life easier. They do not have to think. The lsm disputes facts and research the same way, they just claim it isn't so. No research, no facts, just a claim of disbelief. Same way Zen disputes articles. He will claim that "that just isn't so" but will not offer the proof why.  Imagine a world where wrongs are never your fault, where you do not have to think, or research, or even defend your beliefs, the media does all of that for you. All you have to give up is your self respect.

In MHO, a good example was the whole Russian hoax ordeal. All fake, the ones promoting it knew it was fake, they didn't care for the truth because the agenda was more important. And how many in this nation fell for it. The facts were out there, ANYONE could have researched it, but they longed to believe the lsm.

Quote from: Possum on July 09, 2023, 07:31:30 AMWild ass guess, Marxism makes their life easier. They do not have to think. The lsm disputes facts and research the same way, they just claim it isn't so. No research, no facts, just a claim of disbelief. Same way Zen disputes articles. He will claim that "that just isn't so" but will not offer the proof why.  Imagine a world where wrongs are never your fault, where you do not have to think, or research, or even defend your beliefs, the media does all of that for you. All you have to give up is your self respect.

In MHO, a good example was the whole Russian hoax ordeal. All fake, the ones promoting it knew it was fake, they didn't care for the truth because the agenda was more important. And how many in this nation fell for it. The facts were out there, ANYONE could have researched it, but they longed to believe the lsm.

I guess it all falls under right think, if you agree with the govt, you will be praised, but disagree, and you're labeled a conspiracy nut, a traitor to the cause.
Is it just safety they seek? Do they think life will be easier for them if they back the Govt narrative?

Che, Stalin, Mao Etc... are all living evidence that no one escapes the heavy hand of communist rule in the end.
It boggles the mind to think these people refuse the reality facing their future. 

Quote from: Solar on July 09, 2023, 06:19:16 AMAgain, you were proven wrong! Why aren't you attacking the liars and doing your own damn research?

How? One side claims that GO was used in manufacturing, and therefore is is the vacx, and the other side claims that GO was only used to look at something under a microscope.  How do you know which is true?

Quote from: Possum on July 09, 2023, 04:18:02 AMFrom the article, This is from the FDA, not the author.

From the article, Here the article is referring to another study which is listed.


From the study in the article,




Zen, you never answered my questions from months ago, have YOU got all your jabs yet?

Do the excerpt listed above, if you read through the whole thing, sound like steps in manufacturing? Quantifoil grids are used to enhance visibility, presumably under a microscope:

https://www.quantifoil.com/products/quantifoil/quantifoil-circular-holes#:~:text=QUANTIFOIL%C2%AE%20Holey%20Carbon%20Film,molecular%20biology%20and%20biomedical%20imaging.

Quote from: Solar on July 09, 2023, 06:07:34 AMYet even the European Parliament has the same concern, or are you going to ignore that one as well?

https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/P-9-2022-000303_EN.html

Yes, they worry about IF GO is in the vaccine.  They aren't saying THAT GO is in the vaccine.

Time for the truth on the presence of graphene in the COVID-19 vaccines
24.1.2022

Answer in writing
Priority question for written answer  P-000303/2022
to the Commission
Rule 138
Sergio Berlato (ECR)

A recent investigation by Dr Ricardo Delgado Martin and the technical report by Dr Pablo Campra 'Detection of graphene in COVID vaccines by micro-Raman spectroscopy' claim that the COVID-19 vaccines contain graphene.

As reported by CORDIS in 2018, a team of researchers has proven that graphene is able to convert electronic signals into signals in the terahertz range, with trillions of cycles per second.

The silicon-based electronic components we use today generate clock speeds in the GHz range, where 1 GHz is equal to 1 000 million cycles per second. The scientists showed that graphene can convert signals with these frequencies into signals with frequencies that are thousands of times higher than those created by silicon.

Graphene is therefore able to absorb radiation, meaning that, if contained in a vaccine, it would be highly toxic and harmful to human health.

In the light of this recent investigation, does the Commission intend to have an independent laboratory perform a careful analysis to check for the presence of graphene in the COVID-19 vaccines?

Quote from: ZenMode on July 10, 2023, 07:44:02 AMYes, they worry about IF GO is in the vaccine.  They aren't saying THAT GO is in the vaccine.

Time for the truth on the presence of graphene in the COVID-19 vaccines
24.1.2022

Answer in writing
Priority question for written answer  P-000303/2022
to the Commission
Rule 138
Sergio Berlato (ECR)

A recent investigation by Dr Ricardo Delgado Martin and the technical report by Dr Pablo Campra 'Detection of graphene in COVID vaccines by micro-Raman spectroscopy' claim that the COVID-19 vaccines contain graphene.

As reported by CORDIS in 2018, a team of researchers has proven that graphene is able to convert electronic signals into signals in the terahertz range, with trillions of cycles per second.

The silicon-based electronic components we use today generate clock speeds in the GHz range, where 1 GHz is equal to 1 000 million cycles per second. The scientists showed that graphene can convert signals with these frequencies into signals with frequencies that are thousands of times higher than those created by silicon.

Graphene is therefore able to absorb radiation, meaning that, if contained in a vaccine, it would be highly toxic and harmful to human health.

In the light of this recent investigation, does the Commission intend to have an independent laboratory perform a careful analysis to check for the presence of graphene in the COVID-19 vaccines?

Of course they aren't admitting GO, or rather Luciferase is in the Jabb, but studies prove otherwise.

https://www.drrobertyoung.com/post/transmission-electron-microscopy-reveals-graphene-oxide-in-cov-19-vaccines

While this one shows they have been developing it for years.

https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/acsanm.1c02446

Remember when you claimed there was no evidence that the Jabb was killing people?

Quote from: ZenMode on July 10, 2023, 07:15:34 AMDo the excerpt listed above, if you read through the whole thing, sound like steps in manufacturing? Quantifoil grids are used to enhance visibility, presumably under a microscope:

https://www.quantifoil.com/products/quantifoil/quantifoil-circular-holes#:~:text=QUANTIFOIL%C2%AE%20Holey%20Carbon%20Film,molecular%20biology%20and%20biomedical%20imaging.

Do to the other excerpts listed in that post there IS G.O. in the vaccine. By the way, you do remember they had to change the definition of vaccine in order to call this a vaccine?

Quote from: Solar on July 10, 2023, 08:11:03 AMOf course they aren't admitting GO, or rather Luciferase is in the Jabb, but studies prove otherwise.

https://www.drrobertyoung.com/post/transmission-electron-microscopy-reveals-graphene-oxide-in-cov-19-vaccines

While this one shows they have been developing it for years.

https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/acsanm.1c02446

Remember when you claimed there was no evidence that the Jabb was killing people?

So, I'm supposed to ignore the fact that the source of the first article has done time in jail and is essentially a conman?

VISTA —  The author of the popular pH Miracle book series will spend the next five months in jail, after admitting that he illegally treated patients at his luxury Valley Center ranch without any medical or scientific training.
Robert O. Young was taken into custody in a Vista courtroom Thursday morning. He had been convicted last year on two counts of practicing medicine without a license and pleaded guilty earlier this year to two additional felony counts.

The 65-year-old Young didn't speak during the hearing, which marked the end of a three-year criminal case that highlighted his controversial theories and the pricey treatments he offered to seriously ill or dying patients, who in some cases were given intravenous fluids mixed with baking soda at $500 a pop.

https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/communities/north-county/sd-no-phmiracle-sentence-20170628-story.html

Quote from: ZenMode on July 10, 2023, 11:48:32 AMSo, I'm supposed to ignore the fact that the source of the first article has done time in jail and is essentially a conman?

VISTA —  The author of the popular pH Miracle book series will spend the next five months in jail, after admitting that he illegally treated patients at his luxury Valley Center ranch without any medical or scientific training.
Robert O. Young was taken into custody in a Vista courtroom Thursday morning. He had been convicted last year on two counts of practicing medicine without a license and pleaded guilty earlier this year to two additional felony counts.

The 65-year-old Young didn't speak during the hearing, which marked the end of a three-year criminal case that highlighted his controversial theories and the pricey treatments he offered to seriously ill or dying patients, who in some cases were given intravenous fluids mixed with baking soda at $500 a pop.

https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/communities/north-county/sd-no-phmiracle-sentence-20170628-story.html

Yep, and Trump was indicted and Impeached, but Trump could afford to fight the Commies, not everyone is as fortunate when the left wants you silenced.
Yet the proof remains despite destroying his reputation!

Quote from: Solar on July 10, 2023, 07:20:43 PMYep, and Trump was indicted and Impeached, but Trump could afford to fight the Commies, not everyone is as fortunate when the left wants you silenced.
Yet the proof remains despite destroying his reputation!

The only article that claims there is GO in the vacx is the article by the convicted conman.  The second link talks about GO as an antiviral to treat COVID.

Here's a second link, from the NIH, talk about the same thing.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8525341/#:~:text=These%20observations%20indicate%20that%20the,SARS%2DCoV%2D2%20strains.

Quote from: ZenMode on July 11, 2023, 06:49:02 AMThe only article that claims there is GO in the vacx is the article by the convicted conman.  The second link talks about GO as an antiviral to treat COVID.

Here's a second link, from the NIH, talk about the same thing.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8525341/#:~:text=These%20observations%20indicate%20that%20the,SARS%2DCoV%2D2%20strains.

It was a Govt hit job for big pharma.
I watched this story when it came out because I knew people involved, and they al said the same thing, that he was helping people with no other options with cancer.

Remember when the Govt allowed big pharma the legal right to release all kinds of cancer meds, even untested ones?
Yeah, right after they hung this guy out to dry.

Several of Young's supporters, including former patients, attended the hearing. Afterward, they defended him and his work, and said he had been unfairly characterized in court. Supporter Brian Claypool said Young's treatments helped one of his family members, and called the court case "a big injustice."

"They ignored all the good he has done, all the people he has helped," Claypool said.

In April, the Osteopathic Medical Board of California revoked the medical license of Dr.Bennie S. Johnson, a physician who worked at the Valley Center Ranch, finding that he had been negligent in the treatment of four patients in 2012 and 2013. Johnson was initially charged along with Young in the criminal case, but a judge dismissed Johnson's charges following his preliminary hearing.