A number of things surrounding this whole Covid nonsense have been bothering me. The main one is Trump and his reaction to the vaccine.
As we know, Trump made a deal with big pharma to roll out an untested vaccine in order to end the lockdowns and get things back to "normal".
Time goes by and people start to learn and notice things about the vaccine which indicates it may not be a healthy thing to take. Trump remains silent.
More time goes by and a ton of information comes out indicating that the shot is not only ineffective but quite dangerous. Trump promotes vaccines. He goes so far as to say that he would be willing to indicate as much in a public service announcement.
Population reduction is widely accepted as the reason these vaccines are being promoted by the evil globalists. Top medical professionals come out against the vaccines, even the former chief scientist of Pfizer. Widespread censoring of information is perceived as a coverup. Lots of other corroborating evidence piles up.
Patriots and the awakened refuse to get the jab, while normies stand in line to take it. Stupid normies, they'll be the ones to die say the awakened. How could the globalist be so stupid as to poison all the conforming sheep and leave the nonconformist troublemakers alive to make their life miserable?
Are the globalists really that stupid or is there another game being played?
Just for the sake of argument, let's pretend that Trump knows something we don't. What could possibly be the motivation for him to promote these vaccines? Maybe to cover his ass?
What if the vaccines really are a vaccine, but not for what we think? We know the first pandemic was fake. We know that a vaccine is ridiculous for whatever passed as Covid 19. But what if that was all a setup?
What if the real bioweapon was yet to be deployed? Who would you want to be protected ahead of time?
Like I've said before, I live in a highly vaccinated area and have seen none of the carnage widely reported across the alternative news. I have also seen professionally produced videos purporting to be from authentic vaccine casualties. The "damning statistics" we like to point to are coming from places like the CDC, England, and Israel. Not what I would deem trustworthy sources.
If a weaponized form of Covid were deployed it could easily be explained away as just another variant. The unvaccinated dropping dead would be perfectly logical to the sheep.
November 1st is a widespread deadline for many companies to force their employees to be vaccinated or get fired. Why the big rush? Could it be that they're about to be caught rigging an election?
Trump: "I told you to get the vaccine". 

I'm glad you brought this up... I'll respond later tonight...

Bottom-line, Trump was lied to.
Yes, Trump promoted the Jab, but only recently after stating everyone should still get the Jab, wiser minds got through to him.
He later stated that kids should not get the jab, and that it should be an individuals choice whether or not the take the Jab.

You have to admit, he's between  rock and a hard place. Trump still believes in vaccines for kids, (not the Jab) but believes they should be spread out over time, allowing for possible sideeffects.
But to admit he'd been duped might not be the smartest move. I expect him to come out soon and proclaim the emergency has passed and it's time to get back to normal.

Quote from: Cross Peen on September 30, 2021, 08:50:19 AMA number of things surrounding this whole Covid nonsense have been bothering me. The main one is Trump and his reaction to the vaccine.
As we know, Trump made a deal with big pharma to roll out an untested vaccine in order to end the lockdowns and get things back to "normal".
Time goes by and people start to learn and notice things about the vaccine which indicates it may not be a healthy thing to take. Trump remains silent.
More time goes by and a ton of information comes out indicating that the shot is not only ineffective but quite dangerous. Trump promotes vaccines. He goes so far as to say that he would be willing to indicate as much in a public service announcement.
Population reduction is widely accepted as the reason these vaccines are being promoted by the evil globalists. Top medical professionals come out against the vaccines, even the former chief scientist of Pfizer. Widespread censoring of information is perceived as a coverup. Lots of other corroborating evidence piles up.
Patriots and the awakened refuse to get the jab, while normies stand in line to take it. Stupid normies, they'll be the ones to die say the awakened. How could the globalist be so stupid as to poison all the conforming sheep and leave the nonconformist troublemakers alive to make their life miserable?
Are the globalists really that stupid or is there another game being played?
Just for the sake of argument, let's pretend that Trump knows something we don't. What could possibly be the motivation for him to promote these vaccines? Maybe to cover his ass?
What if the vaccines really are a vaccine, but not for what we think? We know the first pandemic was fake. We know that a vaccine is ridiculous for whatever passed as Covid 19. But what if that was all a setup?
What if the real bioweapon was yet to be deployed? Who would you want to be protected ahead of time?
Like I've said before, I live in a highly vaccinated area and have seen none of the carnage widely reported across the alternative news. I have also seen professionally produced videos purporting to be from authentic vaccine casualties. The "damning statistics" we like to point to are coming from places like the CDC, England, and Israel. Not what I would deem trustworthy sources.
If a weaponized form of Covid were deployed it could easily be explained away as just another variant. The unvaccinated dropping dead would be perfectly logical to the sheep.
November 1st is a widespread deadline for many companies to force their employees to be vaccinated or get fired. Why the big rush? Could it be that they're about to be caught rigging an election?
Trump: "I told you to get the vaccine".

I'll be the first to admit that some of my ideas are a bit out there. Trying to make some sense out of this insanity is daunting. I'd like to think that Trump, or some adult, has a handle on what's happening here. We've all been told to just have faith and hang on while half the population is getting poisoned. I get that the masses have to wake up, but how long is this madness going to continue?
Just got back from a meeting with the boss and they will be firing me on November 1st for refusing to take the shot.  Unfortunately, I work for the city of San Francisco and the communist mayor is in deep with the Newsom cartel.
I really don't mind leaving this job, but my wife doesn't understand my position and is giving me hell about it. My son couldn't understand my position either. Neither is well versed in history. 

Quote from: Cross Peen on September 30, 2021, 01:46:37 PMI'll be the first to admit that some of my ideas are a bit out there. Trying to make some sense out of this insanity is daunting. I'd like to think that Trump, or some adult, has a handle on what's happening here. We've all been told to just have faith and hang on while half the population is getting poisoned. I get that the masses have to wake up, but how long is this madness going to continue?
Just got back from a meeting with the boss and they will be firing me on November 1st for refusing to take the shot.  Unfortunately, I work for the city of San Francisco and the communist mayor is in deep with the Newsom cartel.
I really don't mind leaving this job, but my wife doesn't understand my position and is giving me hell about it. My son couldn't understand my position either. Neither is well versed in history.

I can't imagine the stress you're under, being one of the few sane ones in the area.
But let them fire you, it will give you recourse in the future.

Quote from: Solar on September 30, 2021, 10:26:26 AMBottom-line, Trump was lied to.
Yes, Trump promoted the Jab, but only recently after stating everyone should still get the Jab, wiser minds got through to him.
He later stated that kids should not get the jab, and that it should be an individuals choice whether or not the take the Jab.

You have to admit, he's between  rock and a hard place. Trump still believes in vaccines for kids, (not the Jab) but believes they should be spread out over time, allowing for possible sideeffects.
But to admit he'd been duped might not be the smartest move. I expect him to come out soon and proclaim the emergency has passed and it's time to get back to normal.

Just a couple of wild ass theories, China's economy is not doing well, what if the virus was to harm other countries economies by spreading the virus and watching them shut down their businesses.

 Two, the vaccine, China's one child only, and the fact that only around 10% of young adults in China are having kids, point to a disastrous gdp for China in the near future. When you factor in 25% of China's gdp in is real estate, it looks even worse. China is not prone or will be for immigrants, they will suffer through this alone and could be one reason for the Taiwan push.

 Was the vaccine never meant to cure anything but was meant to reduce the population? We do know it is not working, and it is killing young healthy people, yet the democrats are pushing and pushing to get everyone to take the shot. Why? Democrats would lie to Trump for both reasons, one the virus and the shut downs could help them gain power, two, they feel the world is over populated anyway. 

Quote from: Possum on September 30, 2021, 02:44:13 PMJust a couple of wild ass theories, China's economy is not doing well, what if the virus was to harm other countries economies by spreading the virus and watching them shut down their businesses.

 Two, the vaccine, China's one child only, and the fact that only around 10% of young adults in China are having kids, point to a disastrous gdp for China in the near future. When you factor in 25% of China's gdp in is real estate, it looks even worse. China is not prone or will be for immigrants, they will suffer through this alone and could be one reason for the Taiwan push.

 Was the vaccine never meant to cure anything but was meant to reduce the population? We do know it is not working, and it is killing young healthy people, yet the democrats are pushing and pushing to get everyone to take the shot. Why? Democrats would lie to Trump for both reasons, one the virus and the shut downs could help them gain power, two, they feel the world is over populated anyway.

I cannot say how China's economy is. I've never been there and have no plans to ever go.

What I do know is that the United States economy is not doing well. Prices are going up, our military is going down hill, law enforcement is virtually nonexistent and our foreign policy is a joke. Democrats seem determined to strengthen our enemies and criminals while abandoning what few allies we have left. Democrats hate Israel and virtually anyone who supports President Trump. I am quite proud of being a "deplorable" and will continue to be until the day I die.

I cannot predict what angle the Democrats have in pushing the "vaccine". I know that it has killed a whole bunch of people and I want no part of it. If the Lord calls my number, then He can end my life as He wants.

Everything I've read, everything I've seen and everything I've experienced over the past several years tells me that fraud is afoot and Democrats are at the center of it. I have no doubt that Democrats have used the virus, the "vaccine" and election fraud to get President Trump out and Beijing Biden installed.

Quote from: Possum on September 30, 2021, 02:44:13 PMJust a couple of wild ass theories, China's economy is not doing well, what if the virus was to harm other countries economies by spreading the virus and watching them shut down their businesses.

Yep, there economy is in free fall. I've been reading about how bad it really is, how they're trying to use their own brand of capitalism and the world wants nothing to do with it, and their exports are nose diving, add to that, the cost of shipping is going through the roof Something like, a 400% increase in cost.

 

QuoteTwo, the vaccine, China's one child only, and the fact that only around 10% of young adults in China are having kids, point to a disastrous gdp for China in the near future. When you factor in 25% of China's gdp in is real estate, it looks even worse. China is not prone or will be for immigrants, they will suffer through this alone and could be one reason for the Taiwan push.

I think they just lifted the ban on births, because they looked at the numbers and in as little as a decade there wouldn't be enough of working age , add to that, people are bailing on the cities because of cost.
In addition, China will have severe blackouts this winter due to short coal supplies.
Meaning production will come to a halt.
What worries the CCP the most is countries finding other sources for supply, closer to home, more reliable, maybe even open their own factories due to the cost of shipping.

QuoteWas the vaccine never meant to cure anything

Nope, all they did was replace the flu season with a modified virus, patented it so no one could see it.
Funny thing is, the Jab was created for a virus that had not even hit yet.
See where this is going?

Quotebut was meant to reduce the population?

OOPS, I should have kept reading.
BINGO! They want to reduce the world population, they've even stated in as much.

QuoteWe do know it is not working, and it is killing young healthy people, yet the democrats are pushing and pushing to get everyone to take the shot. Why? Democrats would lie to Trump for both reasons, one the virus and the shut downs could help them gain power, two, they feel the world is over populated anyway.

Exactly!!!
That, and they want to make the US up in the eye of the CCP platform, where the govt is the overseer of production.

In other words, we lose all our Freedoms.

Quote from: RV on September 30, 2021, 04:45:05 PMI cannot say how China's economy is. I've never been there and have no plans to ever go.

What I do know is that the United States economy is not doing well. Prices are going up, our military is going down hill, law enforcement is virtually nonexistent and our foreign policy is a joke.

Nah, only if you watch propaganda TV.
Fact is, what you're seeing, is only happening in blue cities, the rest of the country is doing fine.

QuoteDemocrats seem determined to strengthen our enemies and criminals while abandoning what few allies we have left. Democrats hate Israel and virtually anyone who supports President Trump. I am quite proud of being a "deplorable" and will continue to be until the day I die.

That's the plan...

QuoteI cannot predict what angle the Democrats have in pushing the "vaccine". I know that it has killed a whole bunch of people and I want no part of it. If the Lord calls my number, then He can end my life as He wants.

Distraction from the audits, that, and they are trying to destroy the American culture on their way out..

QuoteEverything I've read, everything I've seen and everything I've experienced over the past several years tells me that fraud is afoot and Democrats are at the center of it. I have no doubt that Democrats have used the virus, the "vaccine" and election fraud to get President Trump out and Beijing Biden installed.

Yep!

Quote from: Solar on September 30, 2021, 01:59:25 PMI can't imagine the stress you're under, being one of the few sane ones in the area.
But let them fire you, it will give you recourse in the future.

Yeah, they're being cagey about it. I'm being put on unpaid administrative leave for 60 days, instead of outright termination. They know they're on shaky legal ground so they're hedging their bet. Comernity is the only "approved" vaccine and it's not available yet.
 

Quote from: Cross Peen on October 01, 2021, 01:59:50 PMYeah, they're being cagey about it. I'm being put on unpaid administrative leave for 60 days, instead of outright termination. They know they're on shaky legal ground so they're hedging their bet. Comernity is the only "approved" vaccine and it's not available yet.

Are you allowed to find alternate employment for those 60 unpaid days?

Quote from: T Hunt on October 01, 2021, 02:15:42 PMAre you allowed to find alternate employment for those 60 unpaid days?

I can do whatever I want. Nevertheless, if the legality of what they are doing turns against them, then they would have to rehire me with full back pay. I'm not counting on that, but you never know.
I'm close enough to retirement anyway. Fuck work, I've had it.

Quote from: Cross Peen on October 01, 2021, 06:41:01 PMI can do whatever I want. Nevertheless, if the legality of what they are doing turns against them, then they would have to rehire me with full back pay. I'm not counting on that, but you never know.
I'm close enough to retirement anyway. Fuck work, I've had it.

Quote from: Cross Peen on October 01, 2021, 06:41:01 PMI can do whatever I want. Nevertheless, if the legality of what they are doing turns against them, then they would have to rehire me with full back pay. I'm not counting on that, but you never know.
I'm close enough to retirement anyway. Fuck work, I've had it.

Let's be honest: if a company did you wrong, is wanting to be rehired at the top of your list? There is a difference between going back because you have to and going back because you want to.