https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/expert-answers/covid-antibody-tests/faq-20484429
QuotePCR test. Also called a molecular test, this COVID-19 test detects genetic material of the virus using a lab technique called polymerase chain reaction (PCR). A fluid sample is collected with a nasal swab or a throat swab, or you may spit into a tube to produce a saliva sample. Results may be available in minutes if analyzed onsite or a few days — or longer in locations with test processing delays — if sent to an outside lab. PCR tests are very accurate when properly performed by a health care professional, but the rapid test can miss some cases.
Quote from: Sick Of Silence on October 23, 2021, 12:36:45 AMhttps://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/expert-answers/covid-antibody-tests/faq-20484429
Right, "very accurate"...
So, if "accuracy" is the goal, why then are the stats and numbers so skewed?
Quote from: RV on October 24, 2021, 04:45:15 AMRight, "very accurate"...
So, if "accuracy" is the goal, why then are the stats and numbers so skewed?
My problem is them having a fetish with sticking a tainted Q-tip up our noses. I would get tested if I could spit into a cup, and they use that Q-tip in the cup.
I would allow them to take blood, and test it in a lab. It should show everything. Why is my booger chamber the only route to test?
Quote from: Sick Of Silence on October 24, 2021, 10:44:26 AMMy problem is them having a fetish with sticking a tainted Q-tip up our noses. I would get tested if I could spit into a cup, and they use that Q-tip in the cup.
I would allow them to take blood, and test it in a lab. It should show everything. Why is my booger chamber the only route to test?
I will NEVER get tested! It doesn't matter to me HOW they conduct it, I would NEVER subject myself to the left's lunacy, hypocrisy and blatant skewing of the actual numbers. If this were a real threat and they were really interested in people's health, there would be no reason to spend all the money on advertising, Chinese made masks and fabricated "statistics".
Quote from: RV on October 25, 2021, 05:37:42 AMI will NEVER get tested! It doesn't matter to me HOW they conduct it, I would NEVER subject myself to the left's lunacy, hypocrisy and blatant skewing of the actual numbers. If this were a real threat and they were really interested in people's health, there would be no reason to spend all the money on advertising, Chinese made masks and fabricated "statistics".
Just being realistic on the situation to protect oneself.
Quote from: Sick Of Silence on October 25, 2021, 03:28:48 PMJust being realistic on the situation to protect oneself.
Lol, "protect oneself"... I guess if "protection" is the goal then, they would not allow an untested, untried, lied about, legally unaccountable "vaccine" to be injected into them. I notice that the "vaccine" proponents AREN'T letting anyone know what happens 1, 5, 10 or even 15 years down the road. "Safe"?, May as well jump off a 40 story building in hopes that one would learn to fly...
There are lots of advertising of the "vaccine" however, not ONE of them ever says what's in it! Seems like if the "vaccine" is so "safe and effective", they would be shouting it from the rooftops and letting everyone know. It seems also rather odd that a "safe and effective vaccine" would have the victim sign a waiver of liability BEFORE they inject the carcinogen into the victim as well...
Then too there's the origins of the virus that the left is doing their best to scuttle, cover up, classify, lie about and provide disinformation labeled as "fact checks".
Quote from: RV on October 26, 2021, 06:59:07 AMLol, "protect oneself"... I guess if "protection" is the goal then, they would not allow an untested, untried, lied about, legally unaccountable "vaccine" to be injected into them. I notice that the "vaccine" proponents AREN'T letting anyone know what happens 1, 5, 10 or even 15 years down the road. "Safe"?, May as well jump off a 40 story building in hopes that one would learn to fly...
There are lots of advertising of the "vaccine" however, not ONE of them ever says what's in it! Seems like if the "vaccine" is so "safe and effective", they would be shouting it from the rooftops and letting everyone know. It seems also rather odd that a "safe and effective vaccine" would have the victim sign a waiver of liability BEFORE they inject the carcinogen into the victim as well...
Then too there's the origins of the virus that the left is doing their best to scuttle, cover up, classify, lie about and provide disinformation labeled as "fact checks".
Have people died from covid?
Quote from: Possum on October 26, 2021, 09:06:05 AMHave people died from covid?
The reality is we don't know. The reality is that the statistics have been so skewed, so manipulated and so partisan that a guess is probably about as accurate as the "statistics" that they keep pushing as "fact".
Have people died from the "vaccine"? We may never really know because that isn't something that they communicate with all the scare tactics and Ads touting the "safety and efficacy" of the "vaccine".
If this "virus" didn't come from Communist China, where did it come from? There are many reports that it was manipulated by Communists as a bio-weapon, of course that will never be reported by the MSM because it doesn't go along with the Democrat narrative.
Have people died who showed no symptoms but, were listed as "Covid deaths" anyhow? The fact is that one could be hit by a bus, ran over by a train or die of Cancer and if Covid can be blamed, it will be chalked up as a Covid death.
It's been proven that masks do not work, never have worked and are totally useless in a non-sterile environment. There are even reports that using a mask may make one MORE inclined to get the virus. Despite the facts, what do the Democrats keep pushing and unConstitutionally "mandating"?
There are a LOT of people like me who are tired of the lies, propaganda, hyperbole and control. There is no way that I want ANYTHING to do with their "vaccine", their lies, their propaganda nor their control nonsense.
Quote from: RV on October 26, 2021, 12:19:14 PMThe reality is we don't know. The reality is that the statistics have been so skewed, so manipulated and so partisan that a guess is probably about as accurate as the "statistics" that they keep pushing as "fact".
Have people died from the "vaccine"? We may never really know because that isn't something that they communicate with all the scare tactics and Ads touting the "safety and efficacy" of the "vaccine".
If this "virus" didn't come from Communist China, where did it come from? There are many reports that it was manipulated by Communists as a bio-weapon, of course that will never be reported by the MSM because it doesn't go along with the Democrat narrative.
Have people died who showed no symptoms but, were listed as "Covid deaths" anyhow? The fact is that one could be hit by a bus, ran over by a train or die of Cancer and if Covid can be blamed, it will be chalked up as a Covid death.
It's been proven that masks do not work, never have worked and are totally useless in a non-sterile environment. There are even reports that using a mask may make one MORE inclined to get the virus. Despite the facts, what do the Democrats keep pushing and unConstitutionally "mandating"?
There are a LOT of people like me who are tired of the lies, propaganda, hyperbole and control. There is no way that I want ANYTHING to do with their "vaccine", their lies, their propaganda nor their control nonsense.
The answer is yes some have died from covid.
Quote from: Possum on October 26, 2021, 09:06:05 AMHave people died from covid?
We really don't know, I remember when it first broke out some scientists claimed it wasn't a virus, it was a parasite and that its symptoms were indistinguishable from the common flu.
This would explain why Ivermectin could kill it and why the flu season was killed off, they lied..
Quote from: Solar on October 26, 2021, 01:34:01 PMWe really don't know, I remember when it first broke out some scientists claimed it wasn't a virus, it was a parasite and that its symptoms were indistinguishable from the common flu.
This would explain why Ivermectin could kill it and why the flu season was killed off, they lied..
Soon as I saw that Ivermectin worked, I suspected a parasite. When I saw how far the swab had to go up someone's nose, I was convinced it was a parasite and know from farm animals, parasite invasion can be deadly, especially if it invades the lungs, whether animal or human. That would also lend a little credence to the mask, as it would be far more likely to stop a parasite than a virus, especially if the parasite is in the lungs and the person coughs. If it was a parasite, I have no doubt people died who should not have had they treated it as such. I also have no doubt more have died from the "cure" vaccine since I do not know a vaccine that treats a parasite, could be wrong there.
Quote from: Possum on October 26, 2021, 12:37:47 PMThe answer is yes some have died from covid.
Who? How many? When? Where? What country? Where did you get your information from? Care to share where you got your "information" from? Did they really die from the virus or from something else? How many people have died from the "vaccine"? Are those folks expendable? What are the true numbers and how will we know? I have more questions and can't find answers from sources that I trust.
Quote from: RV on October 26, 2021, 03:12:28 PMWho? How many? When? Where? What country? Where did you get your information from? Care to share where you got your "information" from? Did they really die from the virus or from something else? How many people have died from the "vaccine"? Are those folks expendable? What are the true numbers and how will we know? I have more questions and can't find answers from sources that I trust.
You really are not worth talking to.
Quote from: Possum on October 26, 2021, 03:13:57 PMYou really are not worth talking to.
GOOD! There are far too many who won't/can't answer ANY questions about either the Wuflu nor the bio-weapon "vaccine" but, want people to be gullible and get the "vaccine" anyway.
Quote from: Solar on October 26, 2021, 01:34:01 PMWe really don't know, I remember when it first broke out some scientists claimed it wasn't a virus, it was a parasite and that its symptoms were indistinguishable from the common flu.
This would explain why Ivermectin could kill it and why the flu season was killed off, they lied..
Just a random thought, that could be the reason there are no isolated pictures? You can not sell the idea for a vaccine to fight a parasite?
Quote from: Possum on October 27, 2021, 07:27:51 AMJust a random thought, that could be the reason there are no isolated pictures? You can not sell the idea for a vaccine to fight a parasite?
That's why they hid behind the Flu. There never was a Covid 19, but they had a so called "vaccine" in the waiting developed a decade prior. for a bug that never even existed?
There never was a virus in the first place, it was all just an excuse to get people to succumb to their lies.
There is a lot of theory and speculation out there about graphene in the Jab.
A couple of decades ago no one would have batted an eye, but with Marxists having stolen an election, now everything our govt does is on a whole other level of suspicious, and now conspiracy after conspiracy comes to fruition, one has to question everything.
https://int.artloft.co/do-vaccines-deliver-graphene-oxide-nanoparticles-for-5g-mind-control/
Seemed fitting...
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Somewhere along the line, SOMEONE is making money from this "vaccine". Many drug stores are giving away the "vaccine" for "free" to whoever will roll their sleeve up. If the "vaccine" was as "safe" and "effective" as the MSM claims it seems a bit odd that it would be given away to people for "free". What I wonder is whether it's tax dollars that are paying for it or what? I'm certain that these companies are not giving the "vaccine" away out of the goodness of their heart. I'm also certain that this "vaccine" wasn't developed to give away for "free" either.
Many other diseases that require medications, (i.e. diabetes, heart disease, leukemia, high blood pressure, high colesterol, cancers, etc.), aren't available for "free" and no other "vaccines" are "free" either. There HAS to be an angle but, I just don't have enough information to put my finger on it yet.
Quote from: Solar on October 26, 2021, 01:34:01 PMWe really don't know, I remember when it first broke out some scientists claimed it wasn't a virus, it was a parasite and that its symptoms were indistinguishable from the common flu.
This would explain why Ivermectin could kill it and why the flu season was killed off, they lied..
So that poses some really interesting questions!
If someone was put on a ventilator and NOT given Ivermectin or (some other drug found to be effective), and they died, does that make the doctor liable to the family?
Was the medical industry complicit in the deaths of people who were listed as Covid 19 patients who died and were on ventilators as opposed to getting the medical care that they needed?
Will medical boards cover for doctors who went along with the NIH, WHO and the CDC as opposed to putting the health and well being of the patient above those organizations?
Moving forward, what responsibility does that place on individuals over their medical doctors?
If it turns out to be a parasite instead of a virus, that poses a whole host of other questions...
I can see lawyers getting wealthy from all of the litigation coming. I don't see anyone caring about the victims nor their families...
Quote from: RV on October 27, 2021, 10:54:26 AMSomewhere along the line, SOMEONE is making money from this "vaccine". Many drug stores are giving away the "vaccine" for "free" to whoever will roll their sleeve up. If the "vaccine" was as "safe" and "effective" as the MSM claims it seems a bit odd that it would be given away to people for "free". What I wonder is whether it's tax dollars that are paying for it or what? I'm certain that these companies are not giving the "vaccine" away out of the goodness of their heart. I'm also certain that this "vaccine" wasn't developed to give away for "free" either.
Many other diseases that require medications, (i.e. diabetes, heart disease, leukemia, high blood pressure, high colesterol, cancers, etc.), aren't available for "free" and no other "vaccines" are "free" either. There HAS to be an angle but, I just don't have enough information to put my finger on it yet.
And, the blood antibody test which doesn't tell you much but if you had Covid or developed antibodies costs normal lab fees.
Quest or Labcorp (don't remember) is $125.
Quote from: RV on October 24, 2021, 04:45:15 AMRight, "very accurate"...
So, if "accuracy" is the goal, why then are the stats and numbers so skewed?
"When properly performed" is the escape clause. 'Covid-19 is to medical science what "Climate Change"has been to meteorological science - a deadly canard that corrupts which corrupts many within its field.
Quote from: WMK on November 07, 2021, 08:43:29 PM"When properly performed" is the escape clause. 'Covid-19 is to medical science what "Climate Change"has been to meteorological science - a deadly canard that corrupts which corrupts many within its field.
Sooo True!