Quote from: p1tchblack on September 20, 2021, 01:20:52 PM"How do we know who a Biden supporters are? Unless they say or do something, we don't know."

There's nothing legally prohibiting a restaurant from requiring customers provide voter ID card to show their political party. It would likely crush their business, but I don't see a basis for it being illegal. Same is true for vaxx status or recent covid tests.

Did he do this or are you making that up?

Quote from: p1tchblack on September 20, 2021, 01:20:52 PM"How do we know who a Biden supporters are? Unless they say or do something, we don't know."

There's nothing legally prohibiting a restaurant from requiring customers provide voter ID card to show their political party. It would likely crush their business, but I don't see a basis for it being illegal. Same is true for vaxx status or recent covid tests.

The original post was about a business trying to discriminate. All the diner did was put up a sign. They didn't deny service as far as the article states. It is no difference than Starbucks for example putting up a rainbow flag on their window. They haven't denied anybody service. They just indicated their stance. People freely decided to show up or not.

The difference is, Conservatives don't commit violent crimes or terrorism crimes like death threats and bomb threats.

To the lefties on this forum: will you condemn death threats and bomb threats?

PB?

Quote from: Possum on September 20, 2021, 02:05:15 PMDid he do this or are you making that up?

I mean exactly what I said... there's nothing prohibiting a business owner from checking voter ID cards.  As to whether or not this person did it, I would guess he didn't.

Quote from: Sick Of Silence on September 20, 2021, 02:05:47 PMThe original post was about a business trying to discriminate. All the diner did was put up a sign. They didn't deny service as far as the article states. It is no difference than Starbucks for example putting up a rainbow flag on their window. They haven't denied anybody service. They just indicated their stance. People freely decided to show up or not.

The difference is, Conservatives don't commit violent crimes or terrorism crimes like death threats and bomb threats.

To the lefties on this forum: will you condemn death threats and bomb threats?

PB?

Of course I condemn any kind of unwarranted violence and threats.

All discrimination isn't illegal.  I could deny service to people who have tattoos or dyed hair if I wanted to. I can deny service to people who carry guns because gun carriers aren't legally protect as it relates to discrimination.  Is all of that, by definition, discrimination?  Yes. Is it illegal?  No, because there are no laws protecting people who all tatted up, carry guns or have dyed hair. My point is that it's not legally discrimination because the unvaxxed/untested aren't legally protected. 

Quote from: p1tchblack on September 20, 2021, 02:28:31 PMI mean exactly what I said... there's nothing prohibiting a business owner from checking voter ID cards.  As to whether or not this person did it, I would guess he didn't.

So it added nothing to the thread.

Quote from: p1tchblack on September 20, 2021, 02:28:31 PMI mean exactly what I said... there's nothing prohibiting a business owner from checking voter ID cards.  As to whether or not this person did it, I would guess he didn't.

Should they be checking voter ID cards on something that doesn't involve voting?

Quote from: Sick Of Silence on September 20, 2021, 02:42:12 PMShould they be checking voter ID cards on something that doesn't involve voting?

Of course not, but what they should do and what they are legal allowed to do, as business owners, are different things. 

IMO, we should all support the right of businesses to decide who their customers are. We don't want government, in 99% of situations, to say "You have have to serve this person".  If I want to hang a sign on the front of my restaurant that says "No Blacks, no Hispanics, No Women, No cripples and No Lesbos", that should be my right, just as it would be with my home.

Quote from: p1tchblack on September 20, 2021, 03:03:08 PMOf course not, but what they should do and what they are legal allowed to do,

I, hell we, don't expect you lefties to acknowledge what they shouldn't do. It's all about what they can do.

Difference between doing what is right and what is easy. The right thing to do is not discriminate. The easy thing is to discriminate. They do that because they have no morals, ethics, or integrity.

Quote from: p1tchblack on September 20, 2021, 03:03:08 PMOf course not, but what they should do and what they are legal allowed to do, as business owners, are different things. 

IMO, we should all support the right of businesses to decide who their customers are. We don't want government, in 99% of situations, to say "You have have to serve this person".  If I want to hang a sign on the front of my restaurant that says "No Blacks, no Hispanics, No Women, No cripples and No Lesbos", that should be my right, just as it would be with my home.

Racial discrimination is fine with you?

Quote from: p1tchblack on September 20, 2021, 10:40:24 AMYou opinion of legitimacy or illegitimacy is irrelevant. Facts don't care about your feelings and there is currently no legal basis to force businesses to serve members of a particular political party or members of a particular vaccination/testing status.

AHAHAHA sorry but yes there is. According to the law you are not allowed to discriminate. If a business cant deny for being gay then it cannot deny for being unvaxed.

Being gay=not being vaxed.
They are the same when it comes to denying service.
So sorry but you legally dont get to have one without the other.
 
The only way you can legally deny the vaxed would be to allow businesses to deny gays too, otherwise its against the law.

Quote from: p1tchblack on September 20, 2021, 01:20:52 PM"How do we know who a Biden supporters are? Unless they say or do something, we don't know."

There's nothing legally prohibiting a restaurant from requiring customers provide voter ID card to show their political party. It would likely crush their business, but I don't see a basis for it being illegal. Same is true for vaxx status or recent covid tests.

LOL but thats not what happened is it? They never actually required proof. So the point still stands. Businesses cannot deny over vax status. Thats why none are.

Quote from: p1tchblack on September 20, 2021, 02:28:31 PMI mean exactly what I said... there's nothing prohibiting a business owner from checking voter ID cards.  As to whether or not this person did it, I would guess he didn't.

But you are only saying that to win this argument, you dont really believe it. We all know. Besides if that were true then they could also deny for being gay. Cant have it both ways. If you want to protect gays then everyone gets protected, thats the law.

Quote from: Sick Of Silence on September 20, 2021, 03:21:03 PMI, hell we, don't expect you lefties to acknowledge what they shouldn't do. It's all about what they can do.

Difference between doing what is right and what is easy. The right thing to do is not discriminate. The easy thing is to discriminate. They do that because they have no morals, ethics, or integrity.

Do you believe that any meaningful portion of the Democratic party would agree with getting rid of all discrimination laws?  Keep in mind that it was Democrats losing their shit over masterpiece

Quote from: p1tchblack on September 20, 2021, 02:34:37 PMOf course I condemn any kind of unwarranted violence and threats.

All discrimination isn't illegal.  I could deny service to people who have tattoos or dyed hair if I wanted to. I can deny service to people who carry guns because gun carriers aren't legally protect as it relates to discrimination.  Is all of that, by definition, discrimination?  Yes. Is it illegal?  No, because there are no laws protecting people who all tatted up, carry guns or have dyed hair. My point is that it's not legally discrimination because the unvaxxed/untested aren't legally protected.

        So according to PB the law allows 2 for kinds of citizens, 1st class (those protected by the law) and 2nd class (those not protected by the law.)
Sorry dear, thats just not how America works, not now not ever, at least not since the we fought a civil war to stop that.

We are all EQUAL under the law, thats what the actual law says. Nothing says gays have more rights than strait people. That would be discrimination, and the law cannot discriminate for no valid reason.

Quote from: p1tchblack on September 20, 2021, 03:03:08 PMOf course not, but what they should do and what they are legal allowed to do, as business owners, are different things. 

IMO, we should all support the right of businesses to decide who their customers are. We don't want government, in 99% of situations, to say "You have have to serve this person".  If I want to hang a sign on the front of my restaurant that says "No Blacks, no Hispanics, No Women, No cripples and No Lesbos", that should be my right, just as it would be with my home.

           if Trump was passing a law to allow that you would be singing a different tune.