Can you be denied goods/services over Covid?

Started by Sick Of Silence, September 16, 2021, 10:00:29 AM

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Sick Of Silence

Can you be denied goods/services over not being vaccinated, negative tested, or not having/showing documentation?
With all these lawyers with cameras on the street i'm shocked we have so much crime in the world.

There is constitutional law and there is law and order. This challenge to law and order is always the start to loosing our constitutional rights.

Frauditors are a waste of life.

T Hunt

Quote from: Sick Of Silence on September 16, 2021, 10:00:29 AMCan you be denied goods/services over not being vaccinated, negative tested, or not having/showing documentation?
Not according to the same laws that say I have to serve gays and dont have the right to refuse service to anyone. I mean if reason reigned than any business could do whatever they wanted with their business. But thats not the case right now so no they cannot deny you. And as far as the govt the constitution says they cant deny you over it. Esspecially since science cannot even isolate it so it doesnt really exist. So no, they cannot deny you over a fairytale like covid.
"Let's Go Brandon, I agree!"  -Biden

Sick Of Silence

Quote from: T Hunt on September 16, 2021, 10:30:45 AMNot according to the same laws that say I have to serve gays and dont have the right to refuse service to anyone. I mean if reason reigned than any business could do whatever they wanted with their business. But thats not the case right now so no they cannot deny you. And as far as the govt the constitution says they cant deny you over it. Esspecially since science cannot even isolate it so it doesnt really exist. So no, they cannot deny you over a fairytale like covid.

Who should we talk to in order to legally advise them that they can't do that?
With all these lawyers with cameras on the street i'm shocked we have so much crime in the world.

There is constitutional law and there is law and order. This challenge to law and order is always the start to loosing our constitutional rights.

Frauditors are a waste of life.

T Hunt

Quote from: Sick Of Silence on September 19, 2021, 10:53:20 AMWho should we talk to in order to legally advise them that they can't do that?

Tell them to their face. Dare them to call the cops, most wont, and most cops wont do anything about it since its not a law but a mandate and they cannot legally enforce it. And if they do arrest you film it and find a lawyer with the balls do sure them for infringing on your constitutional rights over a virus they still cannot prove exists in a court of law.

https://rumble.com/vkorz0-freedom-fighter-court-victory-ends-masking-shots-quarantine-in-alberta.html
"Let's Go Brandon, I agree!"  -Biden

RV

Quote from: T Hunt on September 19, 2021, 02:08:09 PMTell them to their face. Dare them to call the cops, most wont, and most cops wont do anything about it since its not a law but a mandate and they cannot legally enforce it. And if they do arrest you film it and find a lawyer with the balls do sure them for infringing on your constitutional rights over a virus they still cannot prove exists in a court of law.

https://rumble.com/vkorz0-freedom-fighter-court-victory-ends-masking-shots-quarantine-in-alberta.html

You are absolutely correct and I agree with you, HOWEVER... Not everyone has the financial resources to legally hire an attorney. It is absurd to me that the Communists are using this fabricated "virus" to infringe on people's rights. It seems like unless one has the financial resources to continually fight them in a court of law, they can step all over your rights and there is nothing that one can do about it.

It is fine to say that law enforcement may/may not arrest someone. If you are arrested, by some zealous officer, it is up to the courts to sort it out. It would again take, fees and financial resources to pay an attorney up front. The attorneys are the only ones who make out in this mess!

I don't know if people realize that their rights could be blatantly, openly and deliberately violated and unless one has the money to fight it, the law is useless.
RV

"Trust in the Lord with all of your heart and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge Him and He shall direct thy path."

T Hunt

Quote from: RV on September 19, 2021, 06:40:29 PMYou are absolutely correct and I agree with you, HOWEVER... Not everyone has the financial resources to legally hire an attorney. It is absurd to me that the Communists are using this fabricated "virus" to infringe on people's rights. It seems like unless one has the financial resources to continually fight them in a court of law, they can step all over your rights and there is nothing that one can do about it.

It is fine to say that law enforcement may/may not arrest someone. If you are arrested, by some zealous officer, it is up to the courts to sort it out. It would again take, fees and financial resources to pay an attorney up front. The attorneys are the only ones who make out in this mess!

I don't know if people realize that their rights could be blatantly, openly and deliberately violated and unless one has the money to fight it, the law is useless.

I dont have money and Im not worried. I would be using the public defender. The government has to provide you a defence if you cannot afford one. Our justice system isnt allowed to favor the rich over the poor, and I know it does on alot of levels, but if you a defending yourself from against the covid mandate, thats an easy win. They simply are not legally allowed to enforce it.
Plus Im sure there are plenty of lawyers fed up with this too who would take your case pro bono, or you can start a go fund me. Or Im sure that many others persecuted by covid will be starting class action suits you could join. Lots of options.

Add to that that if a cop is doing something illegal, like an illegal arrest, then he is automatically a criminal. You have the right to use lethal force against someone attempting to assault you, which is what an illegal arrest is. Thats right, if a cop tries to illegally arrest you for covid MANDATES(not laws, not enforcable) then you are well within your constitutional rights to use proportional force, including lethal. There is NO situation where you are forced to allow a cop to be a criminal. They are our EQUALS not our betters. They are citizens JUST LIKE US.

Now of course the left has their agents in the legal system who will cheat anyway they can to make your life worse, but with the legal system working so slowly and trump coming back soon Im not worried.
And even if he wasnt then someone has to be the martyr for the cause of justice. We should all be ready to give up our lives for freedom.

Lets say you dont trust your skills enough to outgun a cop. Well the other option is to let them take you and have someone record the entire thing and give it to any media who will take it and spread it all over the internet. Take that cops job and pension thru the court of public opinion.
"Let's Go Brandon, I agree!"  -Biden

p1tchblack

Quote from: Sick Of Silence on September 16, 2021, 10:00:29 AMCan you be denied goods/services over not being vaccinated, negative tested, or not having/showing documentation?

Under current laws, I don't see why a business couldn't deny entry based on not being vaxxed if they wanted to.  Unvaxxed arne't one of the current "protected classes".

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T Hunt

Quote from: p1tchblack on September 20, 2021, 09:20:13 AMUnder current laws, I don't see why a business couldn't deny entry based on not being vaxxed if they wanted to.  Unvaxxed arne't one of the current "protected classes".

You dont have to be a protected class for it to be illegal to discriminate without any legitimate reason backed by science. Thats why racism is wrong, no science to prove blacks or white better or worse than the other. Thats why we dont allow it. Likewise no science to prove covid exists and isnt just the flu(unless you have just found some) or that vaccines work and dont kill you, therefore it would be illegal discrimination to not allow the unvaccinated.

Add to that that it is your personal medical info so they have no legal right to it.
"Let's Go Brandon, I agree!"  -Biden

p1tchblack

Quote from: T Hunt on September 20, 2021, 09:28:26 AMYou dont have to be a protected class for it to be illegal to discriminate without any legitimate reason backed by science. Thats why racism is wrong, no science to prove blacks or white better or worse than the other. Thats why we dont allow it. Likewise no science to prove covid exists and isnt just the flu(unless you have just found some) or that vaccines work and dont kill you, therefore it would be illegal discrimination to not allow the unvaccinated.

Add to that that it is your personal medical info so they have no legal right to it.

There are discrimination laws that make it illegal for a business to deny entry to specific groups. To my knowledge, none of the existing discrimination laws protect non-vaxxed.
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T Hunt

Quote from: p1tchblack on September 20, 2021, 09:59:05 AMThere are discrimination laws that make it illegal for a business to deny entry to specific groups. To my knowledge, none of the existing discrimination laws protect non-vaxxed.

They dont need to. It is illegal to discriminate without legitimate cause period. I cannot refuse service to a pink haired feminist just for being a pink haired feminist.

Plus like I said they cannot know your medical info without a scientific reason, which they dont have.
"Let's Go Brandon, I agree!"  -Biden

p1tchblack

Quote from: T Hunt on September 20, 2021, 10:02:17 AMThey dont need to. It is illegal to discriminate without legitimate cause period. I cannot refuse service to a pink haired feminist just for being a pink haired feminist.

Plus like I said they cannot know your medical info without a scientific reason, which they dont have.

Of course you can because there are no laws against discrimination of pink hair feminists, just as there are no laws protecting against discrimination based on political party:


Florida diner that told Biden supporters to eat elsewhere becomes so popular it runs out of food

Donations and customers have been flocking to the diner since the sign was posted

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/florida-diner-forced-to-close-due-to-popularity-after-posting-sign-telling-biden-supporters-to-keep-out
I Disapprove of What You Say, But I Will Defend to the Death Your Right to Say It

T Hunt

Quote from: p1tchblack on September 20, 2021, 10:11:50 AMOf course you can because there are no laws against discrimination of pink hair feminists, just as there are no laws protecting against discrimination based on political party:


Florida diner that told Biden supporters to eat elsewhere becomes so popular it runs out of food

Donations and customers have been flocking to the diner since the sign was posted

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/florida-diner-forced-to-close-due-to-popularity-after-posting-sign-telling-biden-supporters-to-keep-out

LOL so what? Thats politics, you are allowed to for that because there is a legit reason. Vaccines are a persons health and there is no scientific reason for them to know it and its personal. Sorry, but cant discriminate for that.

Did you think they were doing voting history checks on all there customers?  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
"Let's Go Brandon, I agree!"  -Biden

p1tchblack

Quote from: T Hunt on September 20, 2021, 10:31:09 AMLOL so what? Thats politics, you are allowed to for that because there is a legit reason. Vaccines are a persons health and there is no scientific reason for them to know it and its personal. Sorry, but cant discriminate for that.

Did you think they were doing voting history checks on all there customers?  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

You opinion of legitimacy or illegitimacy is irrelevant. Facts don't care about your feelings and there is currently no legal basis to force businesses to serve members of a particular political party or members of a particular vaccination/testing status. 
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Sick Of Silence

Quote from: p1tchblack on September 20, 2021, 10:11:50 AMOf course you can because there are no laws against discrimination of pink hair feminists, just as there are no laws protecting against discrimination based on political party:


Florida diner that told Biden supporters to eat elsewhere becomes so popular it runs out of food

Donations and customers have been flocking to the diner since the sign was posted

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/florida-diner-forced-to-close-due-to-popularity-after-posting-sign-telling-biden-supporters-to-keep-out

Well here's PB to shitty up a thread...

It sounds like they put up a sign, and it attracted business because of it. Makes sense. Just look at how Chic-Fil-A still has drive through business wrapped around the building after the alphabet people and their jock-strap supporters tried to attack them.

How do we know who a Biden supporters are? Unless they say or do something, we don't know.

QuoteUgarte said she has received some "death threats and bomb threats,"

There you go...

 :rolleyes:

With all these lawyers with cameras on the street i'm shocked we have so much crime in the world.

There is constitutional law and there is law and order. This challenge to law and order is always the start to loosing our constitutional rights.

Frauditors are a waste of life.

p1tchblack

Quote from: Sick Of Silence on September 20, 2021, 12:24:19 PMWell here's PB to shitty up a thread...

It sounds like they put up a sign, and it attracted business because of it. Makes sense. Just look at how Chic-Fil-A still has drive through business wrapped around the building after the alphabet people and their jock-strap supporters tried to attack them.

How do we know who a Biden supporters are? Unless they say or do something, we don't know.

There you go...

 :rolleyes:

"How do we know who a Biden supporters are? Unless they say or do something, we don't know."

There's nothing legally prohibiting a restaurant from requiring customers provide voter ID card to show their political party. It would likely crush their business, but I don't see a basis for it being illegal. Same is true for vaxx status or recent covid tests.
I Disapprove of What You Say, But I Will Defend to the Death Your Right to Say It