I'd bet money that not one cent goes to Conservatives. Which begs the question, where did the money come from? :sneaky:
https://dailycaller.com/2021/11/16/nrsc-national-republican-senatorial-committee-raises-9-million-dollars-october-fundraising-rick-scott/
If a conservative is running in a state where a conservative can win i hope money goes to them. If a moderate is running in a state where only a moderate can win i hope money goes to them. 51 is the magic number and i dont care how they get there.
Quote from: ldub23 on November 16, 2021, 07:34:20 PMIf a conservative is running in a state where a conservative can win i hope money goes to them. If a moderate is running in a state where only a moderate can win i hope money goes to them. 51 is the magic number and i dont care how they get there.
That's the kind of thinking that got is this fucked mess in the first place.
Quote from: Solar on November 16, 2021, 07:58:42 PMThat's the kind of thinking that got is this fucked mess in the first place.
What is the point of running only conservative candidates everywhere if we only have 29 senate seats? 51 and we wouldnt need to worry about a bill ending America as we know it. Lets go back in history. There were several senate seats we threw away but i will only talk about DE. We had a sure win in Mike Castle but instead they nominated a candidate who had to run commercials claiming she wasnt a witch. I 100% support conservative candidates in states they can win such as running a conservative against Murkowski in a primary. If one day we have another shot at a senate seat in Illinois then nominate a person who can win Illinois.
Quote from: ldub23 on November 16, 2021, 08:28:15 PMWhat is the point of running only conservative candidates everywhere if we only have 29 senate seats? 51 and we wouldnt need to worry about a bill ending America as we know it. Lets go back in history. There were several senate seats we threw away but i will only talk about DE. We had a sure win in Mike Castle but instead they nominated a candidate who had to run commercials claiming she wasnt a witch. I 100% support conservative candidates in states they can win such as running a conservative against Murkowski in a primary. If one day we have another shot at a senate seat in Illinois then nominate a person who can win Illinois.
Your pessimism keeps you a victim of the leftists in the GOP. We'll have Congress, that's a lock, that's why I've been writing articles about not having to vote for the leftists that actually run the GOP. And yes, the left runs the GOP, so stop fuckin supporting them, there is no two party system, their day is over. We're taking over the party for the first time in history!
Quote from: Solar on November 17, 2021, 05:03:59 AMYour pessimism keeps you a victim of the leftists in the GOP. We'll have Congress, that's a lock, that's why I've been writing articles about not having to vote for the leftists that actually run the GOP. And yes, the left runs the GOP, so stop fuckin supporting them, there is no two party system, their day is over. We're taking over the party for the first time in history!
If we have congress in 2022 we will have it because we ran candidates that could win in states and districts where they ran.
The purpose of a political party is to win elections, not force some ideology down voters throats. You win elections by listening to voters, not by trying to convince them you are right and they are wrong. That is the lesson Secretary Clinton never learned. But once you are elected, you better give the voters what they want, not what you want.
Quote from: ldub23 on November 16, 2021, 07:34:20 PMIf a conservative is running in a state where a conservative can win i hope money goes to them. If a moderate is running in a state where only a moderate can win i hope money goes to them. 51 is the magic number and i dont care how they get there.
They call themselves "moderates" because they believe that name will appeal to people like you. In reality, they are RINOs, (basically Dems posing as Republicans). This is why they say one thing to get elected and then do whatever their leftist masters tell them to after election. In the mean time, the deficit gets higher, the left creates more pork barrel social programs and the voters (i.e. taxpayers), who elected them are completely forgotten.
Quote from: RV on November 17, 2021, 08:33:56 AMThey call themselves "moderates" because they believe that name will appeal to people like you. In reality, they are RINOs, (basically Dems posing as Republicans). This is why they say one thing to get elected and then do whatever their leftist masters tell them to after election. In the mean time, the deficit gets higher and the voters who elected them are completely forgotten.
What appeals to me isnt necessarily what appeals to Illinois voters. And 51 and 218 are magic numbers. A rep party consisting solely of rock hard conservatives would be a nothing party of 29 senators and 112 reps.
Quote from: ldub23 on November 17, 2021, 08:38:04 AMWhat appeals to me isnt necessarily what appeals to Illinois voters. And 51 and 218 are magic numbers. A rep party consisting solely of rock hard conservatives would be a nothing party of 29 senators and 112 reps.
Ah so, in your opinion, it is "better" to have RINOs than Dems... That's exactly what is wrong with the skyrocketing prices, energy dependence, open borders, "mandates", mutual bathrooms, abortion on demand, etc., etc., etc.
Quote from: RV on November 17, 2021, 11:21:02 AMAh so, in your opinion, it is "better" to have RINOs than Dems... That's exactly what is wrong with the skyrocketing prices, energy dependence, open borders, "mandates", mutual bathrooms, abortion on demand, etc., etc., etc.
And how is having 29 senate seats and 112 house seats going to change that?
Quote from: ldub23 on November 17, 2021, 06:23:11 AMIf we have congress in 2022 we will have it because we ran candidates that could win in states and districts where they ran.
You haven't been paying attention to all the RINO and Dims who have decided not to run. Care to guess why?
Quote from: Solar on November 17, 2021, 03:30:02 PMYou haven't been paying attention to all the RINO and Dims who have decided not to run. Care to guess why?
Im well aware why. Many are going to lose their seats. They will lose some to conservatives and some to moderates. 218 and 51
Quote from: ldub23 on November 17, 2021, 05:34:32 PMIm well aware why. Many are going to lose their seats. They will lose some to conservatives and some to moderates. 218 and 51
Even the DNC and GOP know they're taking all of Congress, so there's no reason to settle for scum. Wake the Fuck Up!
Quote from: ldub23 on November 17, 2021, 12:44:56 PMAnd how is having 29 senate seats and 112 house seats going to change that?
I guess I cannot predict the future the way you claim to. I can't predict how people will vote, I can't predict how many votes were fraudulently created and I cannot predict how many seats in the house and senate will occur.
Quote from: ldub23 on November 17, 2021, 06:23:11 AMIf we have congress in 2022 we will have it because we ran candidates that could win in states and districts where they ran.
Putting up with rinos in congress is one of the reasons we are in the mess we are in. If you settle for less, you will get less. Every time republicans settled for less, the liberals gained, because that is who rinos are and that is what they do. If the republican party is given notice that we will not vote for any rino, like magic, they will recruit conservatives. Want to see change? It is us that needs to send that message. If you are willing to settle for a liberal republican, you are the problem, not the solution.
Quote from: Possum on November 18, 2021, 06:36:02 AMPutting up with rinos in congress is one of the reasons we are in the mess we are in. If you settle for less, you will get less. Every time republicans settled for less, the liberals gained, because that is who rinos are and that is what they do. If the republican party is given notice that we will not vote for any rino, like magic, they will recruit conservatives. Want to see change? It is us that needs to send that message. If you are willing to settle for a liberal republican, you are the problem, not the solution.
I am willing to settle for a liberal republican where only a liberal republican can win. Im very happy if a moderate republican replaces Whitmer next year in MI. Your idea means the republicans will never have majority in congress and you would be culpable in the spread of authoritarianism
Quote from: ldub23 on November 18, 2021, 06:49:34 AMI am willing to settle for a liberal republican where only a liberal republican can win. Im very happy if a moderate republican replaces Whitmer next year in MI. Your idea means the republicans will never have majority in congress and you would be culpable in the spread of authoritarianism
My idea is the only way to ever have a conservative majority. Settle for a liberal republican and that is exactly what you will have in congress. As I said, settle for less and you will receive less.
Quote from: Possum on November 18, 2021, 06:58:58 AMMy idea is the only way to ever have a conservative majority. Settle for a liberal republican and that is exactly what you will have in congress. As I said, settle for less and you will receive less.
Simply can not agree at all. If dems had 1 or 2 more senate seats right now they would nationalize elections making it impossible for reps, much less conservatives to ever be a majority. 51 218
Quote from: Possum on November 18, 2021, 06:58:58 AMMy idea is the only way to ever have a conservative majority. Settle for a liberal republican and that is exactly what you will have in congress. As I said, settle for less and you will receive less.
I absolutely agree with you! We have settled for Communists in BOTH parties long enough!
Quote from: ldub23 on November 18, 2021, 07:02:49 AMSimply can not agree at all. If dems had 1 or 2 more senate seats right now they would nationalize elections making it impossible for reps, much less conservatives to ever be a majority. 51 218
But they don't do they. But they might get the next best thing, enough rino's in congress to give them nationalize elections. What would be the difference? Keep listening to the lsm, they have been pushing your same talking points for years. The last thing the lsm wants to see is a conservative congress because that is the only way to stop this leftist agenda.
Quote from: Possum on November 18, 2021, 10:24:21 AMBut they don't do they. But they might get the next best thing, enough rino's in congress to give them nationalize elections. What would be the difference? Keep listening to the lsm, they have been pushing your same talking points for years. The last thing the lsm wants to see is a conservative congress because that is the only way to stop this leftist agenda.
No, your way we have a conservative rep party of 29 senate seats and 112 house seats while the dem party and the nation marches to Stalinism.
Quote from: ldub23 on November 18, 2021, 12:32:51 PMNo, your way we have a conservative rep party of 29 senate seats and 112 house seats while the dem party and the nation marches to Stalinism.
You seem to miss the point that the country has been trying it your way for many years now. It has got us nowhere. As long as you settle for rinos you will continue to get rinos. Period.