Quote from: ZenMode on August 19, 2023, 05:13:48 AMGeorgia didn't jump to suing. TTV filed a complaint with Georgia regarding a variety of illegal things that they claim happened in 2020.

The Texas-based True the Vote group filed complaints with Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger in November 2021, including one saying it had received "a detailed account of coordinated efforts to collect and deposit ballots in drop boxes across metro Atlanta" during the 2020 general election and in a runoff election in January 2021.

https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/georgia-sues-true-the-vote-produce-evidence-mules-documentary-claims

Georgia is trying to investigate what TTV filed a complaint about!  Claims made by people who said they were paid to collect ballots,etc, but GA can't do it unless they can talk to the people and non-profits that TTV said we're involved.

True the Vote has refused to provide details and documents supporting its allegations that several unnamed organizations paid unnamed individuals $10 per absentee ballot delivered to drop boxes across metro Atlanta.

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The State Election Board subpoenaed True the Vote in April 2022, but pursuit of evidence has moved slowly since then.

The subpoenas sought documents, recordings, and names of people and organizations allegedly connected to ballot harvesting.


https://www.ajc.com/politics/true-the-vote-sued-over-refusal-to-show-evidence-from-2000-mules/5LWFD4FHI5G2TEF2PYTHEZWUEE/

Again, why help those suing you? Let them take it to court where "Discovery" will expose the entire scam!
The left hates "Discovery", because it allows us to expose everything these Marxists are doing!

Why are you so Hell bent on running block for these commies?

Quote from: Solar on August 19, 2023, 05:17:30 AMAgain, why help those suing you? Let them take it to court where "Discovery" will expose the entire scam!
The left hates "Discovery", because it allows us to expose everything these Marxists are doing!

Why are you so Hell bent on running block for these commies?

They sued after a year of trying, unsuccessfully, to get the info from TTV.  Again, TTV filed a complaint, but now they don't want to provide details about the events they filed a complaint about?  This should be what they want.  THEY filed a complaint. GA is trying to investigate the claims.  Why file a complaint if you aren't going to give GA the info they need to investigate YOUR complaint??

The has nothing to do with Left and Right. 

Quote from: ZenMode on August 19, 2023, 05:31:32 AMThey sued after a year of trying, unsuccessfully, to get the info from TTV.  Again, TTV filed a complaint, but now they don't want to provide details about the events they filed a complaint about?  This should be what they want.  THEY filed a complaint. GA is trying to investigate the claims.  Why file a complaint if you aren't going to give GA the info they need to investigate YOUR complaint??

The has nothing to do with Left and Right. 

So now you're just repeating yourself?
You lose on this one, let them take them to court, and again, I emphasize, TTV will pull a "Discovery" move that will expose the entire scam!

Never help your enemy when they're shooting themselves in the ass!

Quote from: Solar on August 19, 2023, 05:35:08 AMSo now you're just repeating yourself?
You lose on this one, let them take them to court, and again, I emphasize, TTV will pull a "Discovery" move that will expose the entire scam!

Never help your enemy when they're shooting themselves in the ass!

Do you think GA is dumb?  Do you think GA attorneys haven't thought through the possible consequences of pushing this issue and forcing discovery, which they don't have to do.  They could have done a half-ass investigation, paid lip service to TTV and left it at that. 

GA is trying to do their job and TTV suddenly doesn't want to cooperate.  If/when this goes to court, I suspect it will expose things, but not what you think it will expose.

Quote from: ZenMode on August 19, 2023, 05:59:15 AMDo you think GA is dumb?  Do you think GA attorneys haven't thought through the possible consequences of pushing this issue and forcing discovery, which they don't have to do.  They could have done a half-ass investigation, paid lip service to TTV and left it at that. 

GA is trying to do their job and TTV suddenly doesn't want to cooperate.  If/when this goes to court, I suspect it will expose things, but not what you think it will expose.

Georgia is in a shitload of trouble and they're trying to run block on the whole thing by posting articles that make them look like they're doing something.
They are in serious trouble and we both know it!

Either they sue and take them to court, or drop the whole thing and hope we don't notice.
We'll be watching!

Quote from: Solar on August 19, 2023, 06:14:51 AMGeorgia is in a shitload of trouble and they're trying to run block on the whole thing by posting articles that make them look like they're doing something.
They are in serious trouble and we both know it!

Either they sue and take them to court, or drop the whole thing and hope we don't notice.
We'll be watching!

I certainly hope you will be watching. From my point of view, Georgia has tried to, and continues to try to, do the right thing. They did multiple full recounts, I believe. They are trying their best to investigate the claims made by true the vote and they investigated/addressed Trump's claims about voter fraud. Georgia is not a leftist state. Kemp easily beat Stacy Abrams. They have a Republican secretary of State and probably would have two Republican senators, had they run quality candidates rather than a talk show host and an ex football player who can barely string together a five-word sentence.

Quote from: ZenMode on August 19, 2023, 06:51:10 AMI certainly hope you will be watching. From my point of view, Georgia has tried to, and continues to try to, do the right thing. They did multiple full recounts, I believe.

Lets get one thing straight. You can count all the ballots you want, and you will get the same results. The "thing" here is the "chain of custody" of the ballots. In SC, you mail in an absentee ballot sent to you from the local voter registration office AFTER you request such absentee ballot. What you send in has an outer envelope with your name and signature, AND a witness name and signature.  The ballot that gets counted has NO personally identifiable information on it. So unless you have the ballot AND the original mailer with the personally identifiable information on it AND VALIDATED, there is no sense trying to "recount ballots" and expect a different result.

Quote from: ZenMode on August 19, 2023, 06:51:10 AMand probably would have two Republican senators, had they run quality candidates rather than a talk show host and an ex football player who can barely string together a five-word sentence.

And the two leftists that the Democrats ran were paragons of virtue, of course. 

Quote from: VVet69 on August 19, 2023, 04:18:28 PMLets get one thing straight. You can count all the ballots you want, and you will get the same results. The "thing" here is the "chain of custody" of the ballots. In SC, you mail in an absentee ballot sent to you from the local voter registration office AFTER you request such absentee ballot. What you send in has an outer envelope with your name and signature, AND a witness name and signature.  The ballot that gets counted has NO personally identifiable information on it. So unless you have the ballot AND the original mailer with the personally identifiable information on it AND VALIDATED, there is no sense trying to "recount ballots" and expect a different result.

What you described happens in SC, is what happens in my state also, plus you get a sample ballot at some point before you get your actual ballot. The Georgia state site says they do it the same way. You register for a mail-in ballot, you get a sample one and then you get a voting one. But you have to register first to get it. How is Georgia different from SC?

https://georgia.gov/vote-absentee-ballot

https://georgia.gov/view-sample-ballot

Quote from: ZenMode on August 19, 2023, 06:38:55 PMWhat you described happens in SC, is what happens in my state also, plus you get a sample ballot at some point before you get your actual ballot. The Georgia state site says they do it the same way. You register for a mail-in ballot, you get a sample one and then you get a voting one. But you have to register first to get it. How is Georgia different from SC?

https://georgia.gov/vote-absentee-ballot

https://georgia.gov/view-sample-ballot

The biggest difference is that SC only allows certain persons to request an absentee ballot, GA allows anyone to do so:
https://scvotes.gov/voters/absentee-voting/

Also, in the event of a runoff, SC automatically sends the runoff ballot to the same absentee ballot voters; no need to request a runoff ballot.

I prefer the SC absentee ballot process.

In the 2022 GA Senate runoff, there were ~237000 absentee ballots requested. Ballot verification is a manual process; I have a hard time believing that all were reviewed for validity as required by law, but that is my opinion.  Apparently TTV found some evidence to support that. Let it come to trial and have Discovery open up the details.

Georgia sues True the Vote group over refusal to produce evidence of '2000 Mules' claims

ATLANTA - The Georgia State Election Board.


I wouldn't give these corrupt MFks anything. It's obvious they want to see evidence so they can concoct some story to cover their crimes, or possibly learn the identity of witnesses, confidential informants to threaten, harass, intimidate or Arkancide.

Quote from: Billy's bayonet on August 20, 2023, 05:26:27 PMGeorgia sues True the Vote group over refusal to produce evidence of '2000 Mules' claims

ATLANTA - The Georgia State Election Board.


I wouldn't give these corrupt MFks anything. It's obvious they want to see evidence so they can concoct some story to cover their crimes, or possibly learn the identity of witnesses, confidential informants to threaten, harass, intimidate or Arkancide.

Why is it so hard for this minimarxist to grasp this?

Quote from: Billy's bayonet on August 20, 2023, 05:26:27 PMGeorgia sues True the Vote group over refusal to produce evidence of '2000 Mules' claims

ATLANTA - The Georgia State Election Board.


I wouldn't give these corrupt MFks anything. It's obvious they want to see evidence so they can concoct some story to cover their crimes, or possibly learn the identity of witnesses, confidential informants to threaten, harass, intimidate or Arkancide.

TTV could to what McCarthy did with the J6 tapes and release all of it to the public.  As long as they are keeping this so secretive, there will be doubters.

Problems seem to be growing for TTV.  It seems people don't take kindly to lies being spread about them.

A state investigation found that Andrews followed Georgia law when he delivered ballots for his three adult children, his wife and himself. State law allows voters, family members or caregivers of disabled voters to drop off ballots.

'2000 Mules' voter fraud movie lands in court in defamation suit
Trump has cited the film as he faces Georgia charges



False accusations of voter fraud smeared an Atlanta-area auditor who was shown in the conspiracy movie "2000 Mules" when he legally delivered five absentee ballots for his family, his lawyers said in federal court Thursday.

A federal judge considered the defamation lawsuit hours before Donald Trump, who has said he would use the movie in his defense against racketeering charges, turned himself in 4 miles away at the Fulton County Jail.

The lawsuit by Mark Andrews says "2000 Mules" damaged his reputation and intimidated him by using a clip from surveillance video as the narrator says: "What you are seeing is a crime. These are fraudulent votes."

A state investigation found that Andrews followed Georgia law when he delivered ballots for his three adult children, his wife and himself. State law allows voters, family members or caregivers of disabled voters to drop off ballots.

U.S. District Judge Steven Grimberg questioned why it was permissible for the movie to publicly accuse Andrews of breaking the law.

"Mr. Andrews was just voting. He's not a candidate. He's not a celebrity," Grimberg said. "... The narrator didn't say, 'I think this is a crime.' The narrator said, 'What you're watching is a crime.' "


https://www.ajc.com/politics/defamation-lawsuit-against-2000-mules-considered-in-federal-court/NLFMBHGUWNF33A6LZAZR5EVKFI/

Quote from: ZenMode on August 29, 2023, 06:25:25 AMProblems seem to be growing for TTV.  It seems people don't take kindly to lies being spread about them.

A state investigation found that Andrews followed Georgia law when he delivered ballots for his three adult children, his wife and himself. State law allows voters, family members or caregivers of disabled voters to drop off ballots.

'2000 Mules' voter fraud movie lands in court in defamation suit
Trump has cited the film as he faces Georgia charges

Oh look, another suit.