Quote from: ZenMode on October 24, 2022, 12:11:28 PMThis back and forth for many pages, when all I did was point out something unusual I noticed about the movie, is precisely why I stated in my first post that I'm (metaphorically) taking my life in my hands. 

You know exactly what you are doing. You are being illogical.

We have proven the data credible and trustworthy yet you still say it isnt and cannot explain why....


Will you admit the data is credible, and will you admit that enough proof exists outside 2KM already?
Still no direct answers from you...

Quote from: T Hunt on October 24, 2022, 12:15:01 PMStill lying...
I will just repeat what I said above...

Its an IRRELEVANT FACT, its a strawman argument that has no bearing on the credibility of the data. This is where you are lying.
They dont need to show the data to prove that its true.

Now will you try to explain why they need to show it to prove that its true? Or will you deflect again....

If its true then you will accept the stolen election. If not then you will need to explain why...

I'm glad we got to the point where we can agree that it's a fact, one that is irrelevant in your opinion, but a fact nonetheless.

The GPS data claims to show people going to specific non-profits and then to drop boxes.  They present a good case with the volume of GPS data.  To hammer the point home, at least for a casual viewer like me, matching surveillance video to the GPS data would have been huge.

As I said earlier, the only way to trulyknow if the election was stolen is to have full audits of all states where the election was decided by a reasonably small number of votes.  At this point we aren't going ever get full audits, so I can't definitively say, based on what I know, whether or not the election was stolen.  There are a lot of claims and some questionable actions by governors is some states, but without full audits, there is no "know", there is only some level of belief.

Again, you guys here are all-in on research on this topic, so you probably know 100x what I know - maybe that's why there's so much certainty on your parts.

Quote from: T Hunt on October 24, 2022, 12:19:51 PMYou know exactly what you are doing. You are being illogical.

We have proven the data credible and trustworthy yet you still say it isnt and cannot explain why....


Will you admit the data is credible, and will you admit that enough proof exists outside 2KM already?
Still no direct answers from you...

Now you're being dishonest.  I've said nothing about the data.  I have said, and will continue to say, that they had 4 million minutes of surveillance video and didn't show any mules at a drop box more than once.  Every claim you're making about me, including that I'm saying the data isn't credible, is your assumption and not based in reality.

Yes, I believe that GPS data is legit GPS data.

Quote from: ZenMode on October 24, 2022, 12:24:51 PMI'm glad we got to the point where we can agree that it's a fact, one that is irrelevant in your opinion, but a fact nonetheless.

But its not a fact. They have PROVEN THEY HAVE THE DATA. Whether they show it is moot. You are STILL lying...

QuoteThe GPS data claims to show people going to specific non-profits and then to drop boxes.  They present a good case with the volume of GPS data.  To hammer the point home, at least for a casual viewer like me, matching surveillance video to the GPS data would have been huge.

Still lying, irrelevant. There is no NEED to show it. Its been confirmed by law enforcement so you KNOW its true.

Weather or not the election was stolen isnt an opinion. It is or isnt a fact.  

QuoteAs I said earlier, the only way to trulyknow if the election was stolen is to have full audits of all states where the election was decided by a reasonably small number of votes.  At this point we aren't going ever get full audits, so I can't definitively say, based on what I know, whether or not the election was stolen.  There are a lot of claims and some questionable actions by governors is some states, but without full audits, there is no "know", there is only some level of belief.

FIANALLY! You cant finally admit it! No amount of proof will be enough for you, thus proving you have TDS, a mental disorder that keeps those who hate trump from accepting facts that support him.     

QuoteAgain, you guys here are all-in on research on this topic, so you probably know 100x what I know - maybe that's why there's so much certainty on your parts.

No, we have shown you all the proof you need to see to KNOW BEYOND ANY DOUBT that the election was stolen, yet you still refuse to address it, why?

Quote from: ZenMode on October 24, 2022, 12:26:39 PMNow you're being dishonest.  I've said nothing about the data.  I have said, and will continue to say, that they had 4 million minutes of surveillance video and didn't show any mules at a drop box more than once.  Every claim you're making about me, including that I'm saying the data isn't credible, is your assumption and not based in reality.

Yes, I believe that GPS data is legit GPS data.

   
You have constantly said that the data cant be trusted if they dont show it, which is a lie.
Your claim=they didnt show it in the video, thus its not real.
Thats a lie.

Quote from: T Hunt on October 24, 2022, 12:32:22 PMBut its not a fact. They have PROVEN THEY HAVE THE DATA. Whether they show it is moot. You are STILL lying...
Still lying, irrelevant. There is no NEED to show it. Its been confirmed by law enforcement so you KNOW its true.

Weather or not the election was stolen isnt an opinion. It is or isnt a fact.   
FIANALLY! You cant finally admit it! No amount of proof will be enough for you, thus proving you have TDS, a mental disorder that keeps those who hate trump from accepting facts that support him.     
No, we have shown you all the proof you need to see to KNOW BEYOND ANY DOUBT that the election was stolen, yet you still refuse to address it, why?

This is generally why I choose not to reply to you and will continue to rarely reply to you.  You are the liar.  I have never questioned the validity of the GPS data.  In fact I just said I believe the GPS data is legit.  I have also never said they "need" to show it.  Yet another lie of yours. I have said that matching up surveillance video to the data would be huge and would be a home run in presenting their case.

I have already stated what would prove as absolute fact that the election was stolen - full audits in the swing states.  Another lie of yours that no amount of proof would convince me.

Quote from: ZenMode on October 24, 2022, 12:41:19 PMThis is generally why I choose not to reply to you and will continue to rarely reply to you.  You are the liar.

A nice excuse to avoid pertinent questions...

QuoteI have never questioned the validity of the GPS data.  In fact I just said I believe the GPS data is legit.  I have also never said they "need" to show it.  Yet another lie of yours.

Right, no one is talking about the gps data, we are talking about the video data.

QuoteI have said that matching up surveillance video to the data would be huge and would be a home run in presenting their case.

No, you said that they didnt show the video they claim to have, therefore they dont have it...
That is your claim right there and it is a lie.

QuoteI have already stated what would prove as absolute fact that the election was stolen - full audits in the swing states.  Another lie of yours that no amount of proof would convince me.

We have already shown you proof which you refuse to address, thus proving no amount of proof matters to you, your lie is exposed. If you think we are lying then address all the other mountains of proof we have shown you before...

Quote from: ZenMode on October 24, 2022, 12:41:19 PMThis is generally why I choose not to reply to you and will continue to rarely reply to you.  You are the liar.  I have never questioned the validity of the GPS data.  In fact I just said I believe the GPS data is legit.  I have also never said they "need" to show it.  Yet another lie of yours. I have said that matching up surveillance video to the data would be huge and would be a home run in presenting their case.

I have already stated what would prove as absolute fact that the election was stolen - full audits in the swing states.  Another lie of yours that no amount of proof would convince me.

You have said constantly that they didnt show the video.
That is a claim that they dont have it, which is a lie.

You can put all this to rest right now by admitting that even tho they didnt show it, they still proved they have it.
Go ahead and submit to logical reasoning...

Quote from: ZenMode on October 24, 2022, 11:42:18 AMThat video is from gateway pundit and should absolutely be investigated but, yes, THAT is exactly what 2K Mules should have shown!

Maybe Gateway Pundit should have produced/done research for the movie. 

It was from TTV's collection of evidence. Again, just because they didn't think it was necessary for the movie, considering all of the evidence provided, in no way takes away from what you were shown in 2K Mules!

I swear, you're like a 7yro kid stuck in the "WHY" stage. No matter how much info you are given, you will never grasp the big picture everyone else did.

Quote from: ZenMode on October 24, 2022, 12:11:28 PMEveryone is trying to take a very simple statement of fact and turn it into much more.  Again, I never said they "needed" to do anything.  I simply stated that they had 4 million minutes of surveillance video and identified specific people as mules, but failed to do exactly what the Gateway Pundit did in Solar's video, which is show them at a drop box more than once.

You, Possum and Solar may not agree that it would be more convincing for you if they did, but I'm not a liar for acknowledging reality.

This back and forth for many pages, when all I did was point out something unusual I noticed about the movie, is precisely why I stated in my first post that I'm (metaphorically) taking my life in my hands. 

After watching 2K Mules and seeing all the evidence, do you believe the election was defrauded.
Yes or No will suffice.

Quote from: ZenMode on October 24, 2022, 12:24:51 PMI'm glad we got to the point where we can agree that it's a fact, one that is irrelevant in your opinion, but a fact nonetheless.

The GPS data claims to show people going to specific non-profits and then to drop boxes.  They present a good case with the volume of GPS data.  To hammer the point home, at least for a casual viewer like me, matching surveillance video to the GPS data would have been huge.

As I said earlier, the only way to trulyknow if the election was stolen is to have full audits of all states where the election was decided by a reasonably small number of votes.  At this point we aren't going ever get full audits, so I can't definitively say, based on what I know, whether or not the election was stolen.  There are a lot of claims and some questionable actions by governors is some states, but without full audits, there is no "know", there is only some level of belief.

Again, you guys here are all-in on research on this topic, so you probably know 100x what I know - maybe that's why there's so much certainty on your parts.

Maybe the people in jail for ballot harvesting could use your defense that there is no voter fraud because the movie did not show fraud to your liking.   

Quote from: Possum on October 24, 2022, 03:13:22 PMMaybe the people in jail for ballot harvesting could use your defense that there is no voter fraud because the movie did not show fraud to your liking.   

An excellent strawman since I never claimed there was no voter fraud and nobody was in jail for voter fraud.  Nor did I ever even make a connection between my observation about 2KM and the realities of voter fraud.

Quote from: Solar on October 24, 2022, 01:35:50 PMIt was from TTV's collection of evidence. Again, just because they didn't think it was necessary for the movie, considering all of the evidence provided, in no way takes away from what you were shown in 2K Mules!

In your opinion.

QuoteI swear, you're like a 7yro kid stuck in the "WHY" stage. No matter how much info you are given, you will never grasp the big picture everyone else did.

Asking questions isn't childish.  Trying to make sense of things that don't make sense also isn't childish.  What IS childish is insulting people by calling them a child.

Quote from: Solar on October 24, 2022, 01:40:40 PMAfter watching 2K Mules and seeing all the evidence, do you believe the election was defrauded.
Yes or No will suffice.

If I base my opinion solely on 2KM: No.  If I base my opinion on everything I know, including what governments did, I'd say Yes.

Quote from: ZenMode on October 24, 2022, 03:18:14 PMIn your opinion.
Asking questions isn't childish.  Trying to make sense of things that don't make sense also isn't childish.  What IS childish is insulting people by calling them a child.

I said "You're like a child", and not understanding the obvious, again, it's either child like thinking, or purposeful bias.
Your choice.