Quote from: ZenMode on October 17, 2022, 07:28:18 AMI'm probably taking my life in my hands by making this my first post here.

Care to explain what this means?
You do know, we're not libs, we don't riot and destroy property. That's a leftist trait!

Quote from: Solar on October 17, 2022, 09:59:54 AMSo that's it? Because they only showed a portion of the fraud and never the same person, as you claim, you're willing to write it off?
How much evidence do you need?

The entire premise of the movie and their work is that thousands of people are going from drop box to drop box to drop box.  They had the equivalent of 7.6 years of surveillance video and couldn't show one concrete example? One should have been a piece of cake given the amount of video they had and the original claim of 2000 mules, but even easier when they adjusted their criteria and expanded the number to, I believe, around 10,000.  If there was any basis for what was being claimed, they should have had video of dozens of people, shouldn't they?

Quote from: Solar on October 17, 2022, 10:08:39 AMCare to explain what this means?
You do know, we're not libs, we don't riot and destroy property. That's a leftist trait!

Definitely wasn't meant to be anything political.  I've been reading the forum while waiting for my account to be approved. As I mentioned in the post your quoted, the 2020 election was a very hot/divisive topic on most any political discussion forum  for months after the election, but has remained a very active topic here.

Quote from: ZenMode on October 17, 2022, 10:36:30 AMThe entire premise of the movie and their work is that thousands of people are going from drop box to drop box to drop box.  They had the equivalent of 7.6 years of surveillance video and couldn't show one concrete example? One should have been a piece of cake given the amount of video they had and the original claim of 2000 mules, but even easier when they adjusted their criteria and expanded the number to, I believe, around 10,000.  If there was any basis for what was being claimed, they should have had video of dozens of people, shouldn't they?

Do think you'd sit through 10,000 hrs of video? They made their case without boring their audience.

Quote from: ZenMode on October 17, 2022, 10:49:53 AMDefinitely wasn't meant to be anything political.  I've been reading the forum while waiting for my account to be approved. As I mentioned in the post your quoted, the 2020 election was a very hot/divisive topic on most any political discussion forum  for months after the election, but has remained a very active topic here.

That does not answer the question I posed.
"I'm probably taking my life in my hands" Try again. You're already coming off like a troll.

Quote from: Solar on October 17, 2022, 11:49:11 AMThat does not answer the question I posed.
"I'm probably taking my life in my hands" Try again. You're already coming off like a troll.

I'll try to be more clear.  The comment was intended to be humorous because it was my first post and I was taking a position that very much ran contrary to the position of the board on a very divisive topic.

So you think Conservatives act like libs?

Quote from: ZenMode on October 17, 2022, 07:28:18 AMGiven how divisive is this topic (stolen election), I'm probably taking my life in my hands by making this my first post here.

I watched 2000 Mules because I was curious to see what they (True the Vote) actually had.  There were several things that stood out, but one thing stood out above them all - despite having 4 million minutes of video of drop boxes, not one time did they show the same person at the same drop box or at more than one drop box.  They claimed, after adjusting their criteria for "Mule" way more than 2000.  They claimed that one guy went to, I believe, 15 drop boxes in a night.  They claimed 4 million minutes of video, but couldn't provide video proof of even one actual mule?

Who cares? Thats just another democrat talking point. Why cant they drop thousands of illegal ballots at ONE box? Everyone they showed in the movie was dropping off illegal ballots thus they were all mules.

Quote from: ZenMode on October 17, 2022, 08:25:13 AMI watched it.  I'm familiar with the lady with the blue latex glove.  The guy on the bike who took a picture of the drop box.  The guy walking the dog who was being stared at by the guy next to him, I believe there was a lady in a purple or redish dress, there was the guy who came from the left, from his car, and "jogged" back to his car, etc. They really only showed video of about 10 people total.

Did you really expect them to try to fit 4 million minutes of video into the movie? Much of it cannot be public yet due to ongoing investigations, but Law enforcement has confirmed that all of it exists.

QuoteWhich person did they have, on video, at more than one drop box?

Again, who cares about multiple boxes? Only the left seems to. Logically you can drop off illegal ballots in just one box. So fraud still confirmed.

However, the criteria for being one of the 2000 is as follows:

"To be counted as a mule, their phones had to make AT LEAST FIVE stops per mule at the same leftwing activist groups' locations and make AT LEAST TEN stops at ballot boxes.

THEN, they were caught on video wearing gloves, taking pics of themselves dropping off many many ballots, often dozens even hundreds, between 1AM and 4AM.

ALL 2000 mules passed all these tests, for a total of hundreds of thousands of illegal ballots for biden."

Quote from: ZenMode on October 17, 2022, 10:36:30 AMThe entire premise of the movie and their work is that thousands of people are going from drop box to drop box to drop box.  They had the equivalent of 7.6 years of surveillance video and couldn't show one concrete example?

Now you are just lying. Here is you earlier...

QuoteThey really only showed video of about 10 people total.

So according to you they do have 10 concrete examples. Now the onus is on you to prove those examples are bunk...

Quote from: ZenMode on October 17, 2022, 10:49:53 AMDefinitely wasn't meant to be anything political.  I've been reading the forum while waiting for my account to be approved. As I mentioned in the post your quoted, the 2020 election was a very hot/divisive topic on most any political discussion forum  for months after the election, but has remained a very active topic here.

And it remains an active topic across the political spectrum as decertification is underway in several states due to the audits/canvass which proved move illegal ballots for biden.

Quote from: Solar on October 17, 2022, 12:52:30 PMSo you think Conservatives act like libs?

I realize that I'm new here, so there's no way you can know much of anything about me, my politics, etc, but I'm not big on generalizations or us vs them kind of stuff.  I find some topics interesting and I like to debate/discuss them.  In other words, while I don't know exactly what you mean by "Conservatives act like libs", I think I can safely say that I was in no way saying or implying anything of the sort.

Quote from: T Hunt on October 17, 2022, 01:29:43 PMNow you are just lying. Here is you earlier...

So according to you they do have 10 concrete examples. Now the onus is on you to prove those examples are bunk...

It was two separate thoughts.  They only showed about 10 individuals total in the video.  That is an estimate.  The estimated 10 people they showed in video clips were all different people.  The concrete example I'm referring to is showing the same person at one drop box multiple times or the same person at more than one drop box.

You have GPS data, so you know where people are at any given point in the day, and you know which drop boxes you have surveillance video from, putting those two items together to show the same person at multiple drop boxes should be a given.

Quote from: ZenMode on October 17, 2022, 02:18:12 PMIt was two separate thoughts.  They only showed about 10 individuals total in the video.  That is an estimate.  The estimated 10 people they showed in video clips were all different people.  The concrete example I'm referring to is showing the same person at one drop box multiple times or the same person at more than one drop box.

This is what you need to explain.
If there are 10 people then thats 10 concrete examples. You have yet to prove that someone going to multiple boxes is in anyway different then someone dropping off illegal ballots in one box.
Care to explain?

QuoteYou have GPS data, so you know where people are at any given point in the day, and you know which drop boxes you have surveillance video from, putting those two items together to show the same person at multiple drop boxes should be a given.

Right, they can show multiple drop boxes or even them going to democrat offices since law enforcement has confirmed that they do in fact have such video.

However, the law requires that they cannot release video of ongoing investigations.
But again, the very fact decertification is ongoing in several states means they have all the proof they need.

Quote from: ZenMode on October 17, 2022, 02:09:39 PMI realize that I'm new here, so there's no way you can know much of anything about me, my politics, etc, but I'm not big on generalizations or us vs them kind of stuff.  I find some topics interesting and I like to debate/discuss them.  In other words, while I don't know exactly what you mean by "Conservatives act like libs", I think I can safely say that I was in no way saying or implying anything of the sort.

Actually the fact that the very first thing you post is a long since debunked left wing talking point about multiple dropboxes, we already know quite alot about you and your politics. Its not hard to read between the lines. Sherlock Holmes was great at it.