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General Category => War Forum => Topic started by: Blauritter on October 07, 2013, 04:26:36 PM

Title: WORLD WAR TWO: The spoils of war.
Post by: Blauritter on October 07, 2013, 04:26:36 PM
  "The chief result of World War One was that it established Revolutionary-Zionism and Revolutionary-Communism as new forces in International affairs...The first was promised a 'homeland' while the second actually received a resident state, Russia....The chief result of World War Two was that further 'territorial gains' accrued to, and only to, Zionism and Communism. This time Zionism actually received a resident state, Israel and Communism received half of Europe."

I found the above on page 216 of an excellent book titled, The Controversy of Zion by Douglas Reed and published in 1985 by Veritas. After I read it a few times I wondered what America gained from these wars, since it was mostly White Americans who gave the ultimate for their country. After giving it some thought I came up with this very short list.

Well for starters we gained a welfare state called Israel where we dump millions, and millions of tax-payer dollars. Plus as a bonus, thanks to a government greatly influenced by the moneyed minority our people fought to save in WWII, we get to send our young people all over the Middle East to fight and die for them. At the same time the rest of our military is stationed around the globe in order to preserve or spread 'democracy' as their political leaders define it. As for protecting and cleaning up our own U. S. borders and run down inner cities...Well that's a whole nother post!

Here's a few more benefits from our victory in WWI and WWII...We can drive Toyotas, Hondas, and Nissans around now without getting a dirty look from an old vet...Even Volkswagons!...Our government issued an upgraded new national seal: 'Made in China'...Our once lily White professional sports now abound with Blacks, Hispanics, and Asians, while White kids sit on their arse playing computer games. Yes, there is still a sprinkling of Whites in our sports but give it time and they'll go the way of the dinosaur also.

Another reminder of the great gains we made since WWII is in the entertainment industry. Now they can boldly celebrate mixed-marriages, homosexuality, pornography on the big screens and tv sets of our nation and its all accepted by our people with nary a peep.

I could go on and on but not many really care, so crack a brew, kick back, turn on the tube and watch the History Channel show us how the United States saved the world. A world, unless the White Race shakes off their lethargy and reclaims their God given heritage, is well on its way to becoming, in my opinion, a decadent multi-racial/multi cultural cesspool.

 
Title: Re: WORLD WAR TWO: The spoils of war.
Post by: mdgiles on October 08, 2013, 07:20:29 AM
Quote from: Blauritter on October 07, 2013, 04:26:36 PM
  "The chief result of World War One was that it established Revolutionary-Zionism and Revolutionary-Communism as new forces in International affairs...The first was promised a 'homeland' while the second actually received a resident state, Russia....The chief result of World War Two was that further 'territorial gains' accrued to, and only to, Zionism and Communism. This time Zionism actually received a resident state, Israel and Communism received half of Europe."

I found the above on page 216 of an excellent book titled, The Controversy of Zion by Douglas Reed and published in 1985 by Veritas. After I read it a few times I wondered what America gained from these wars, since it was mostly White Americans who gave the ultimate for their country. After giving it some thought I came up with this very short list.

Well for starters we gained a welfare state called Israel where we dump millions, and millions of tax-payer dollars. Plus as a bonus, thanks to a government greatly influenced by the moneyed minority our people fought to save in WWII, we get to send our young people all over the Middle East to fight and die for them. At the same time the rest of our military is stationed around the globe in order to preserve or spread 'democracy' as their political leaders define it. As for protecting and cleaning up our own U. S. borders and run down inner cities...Well that's a whole nother post!

Here's a few more benefits from our victory in WWI and WWII...We can drive Toyotas, Hondas, and Nissans around now without getting a dirty look from an old vet...Even Volkswagons!...Our government issued an upgraded new national seal: 'Made in China'...Our once lily White professional sports now abound with Blacks, Hispanics, and Asians, while White kids sit on their arse playing computer games. Yes, there is still a sprinkling of Whites in our sports but give it time and they'll go the way of the dinosaur also.

Another reminder of the great gains we made since WWII is in the entertainment industry. Now they can boldly celebrate mixed-marriages, homosexuality, pornography on the big screens and tv sets of our nation and its all accepted by our people with nary a peep.

I could go on and on but not many really care, so crack a brew, kick back, turn on the tube and watch the History Channel show us how the United States saved the world. A world, unless the White Race shakes off their lethargy and reclaims their God given heritage, is well on its way to becoming, in my opinion, a decadent multi-racial/multi cultural cesspool.

 
Why do Conservative web sites constantly have to keep an eye out for anti-Semites constantly trying to sneak aboard. Fact. Zionism had started in the 19th century and the Balfour Declaration promising the Jews a homeland was made in 1917 - while the Allies were busy kicking the Germans arse in the first World War. Obviously after being murdered in the millions by Germans in WW2, a national homeland took on a greater meaning to Jews after the war. As for the rise of Communism, your hero Hitler made that a given since he destroyed any possible opposition to the Red Army, by turning central Europe into a German fief. Something they did in alliance with the Communists.  As for the rest of your White Supremacist crap, I guess I'll just put that down to you being as bat shit crazy as those types usually are.
Title: Re: WORLD WAR TWO: The spoils of war.
Post by: Blauritter on October 08, 2013, 03:07:05 PM
Quote from: mdgiles on October 08, 2013, 07:20:29 AM
Why do Conservative web sites constantly have to keep an eye out for anti-Semites constantly trying to sneak aboard. Fact. Zionism had started in the 19th century and the Balfour Declaration promising the Jews a homeland was made in 1917 - while the Allies were busy kicking the Germans arse in the first World War. Obviously after being murdered in the millions by Germans in WW2, a national homeland took on a greater meaning to Jews after the war. As for the rise of Communism, your hero Hitler made that a given since he destroyed any possible opposition to the Red Army, by turning central Europe into a German fief. Something they did in alliance with the Communists.  As for the rest of your White Supremacist crap, I guess I'll just put that down to you being as bat shit crazy as those types usually are.

all you're doing is shooting your mouth off.

The defeat of germany made israel a shoe in. . what's your prob?
Title: Re: WORLD WAR TWO: The spoils of war.
Post by: mdgiles on October 09, 2013, 09:24:09 AM
Quote from: Blauritter on October 08, 2013, 03:07:05 PM
all you're doing is shooting your mouth off.

The defeat of germany made israel a shoe in. . what's your prob?
You and your ilk. Any other questions?
Title: Re: WORLD WAR TWO: The spoils of war.
Post by: Stanthemilkman on November 03, 2013, 06:19:02 AM
He is shooting his mouth off? Maybe you should reread your rant you ignorant bigot.

This Protocols crap was and is a hoax. It is a complete false hood.  The conspiracy and its alleged leaders, the so-called Elders of Zion, never existed.
It was propaganda first published used by the Russian secret police (so you agree with lying Russians). It was used to portray Jews as enemies of the state.

n 1921, the London Times presented conclusive proof that the Protocols was a "clumsy plagiarism." The Times confirmed that the Protocols had been copied in large part from a French political satire that never mentioned Jews—Maurice Joly's Dialogue in Hell Between Machiavelli and Montesquieu (1864). Other investigations revealed that one chapter of a Prussian novel, Hermann Goedsche's Biarritz (1868), also "inspired" the Protocols.

http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10007244 (http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10007244)

This is my favorite quote concerning this book.
"If ever a piece of writing could produce mass hatred, it is this one. . . . This book is about lies and slander."
—Elie Wiesel, Nobel Peace Prize Laureate

Read it and for once in your life don't be you.

As for all your woefully inaccurate and incorrect comments about WWII (get the entire country out of a depression that was strangulating the nation not a benefit or at the end being the only remaining super power after the war?). But I can't find the will at the moment.

Also i never read a passage in the bible that said white people were gods people and if God would accept a hate fill piece of human garbage like you then he is not God and I have nothing to fear.

Also Jesus was born in the middle east and walked around in the sun a lot. So by the time he was a adult he would have been quite a dark brown.
Title: Re: WORLD WAR TWO: The spoils of war.
Post by: Solar on November 03, 2013, 06:37:24 AM
Quote from: Stanthemilkman on November 03, 2013, 06:19:02 AM
He is shooting his mouth off? Maybe you should reread your rant you ignorant bigot.

This Protocols crap was and is a hoax. It is a complete false hood.  The conspiracy and its alleged leaders, the so-called Elders of Zion, never existed.
It was propaganda first published used by the Russian secret police (so you agree with lying Russians). It was used to portray Jews as enemies of the state.

n 1921, the London Times presented conclusive proof that the Protocols was a "clumsy plagiarism." The Times confirmed that the Protocols had been copied in large part from a French political satire that never mentioned Jews—Maurice Joly's Dialogue in Hell Between Machiavelli and Montesquieu (1864). Other investigations revealed that one chapter of a Prussian novel, Hermann Goedsche's Biarritz (1868), also "inspired" the Protocols.

http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10007244 (http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10007244)

This is my favorite quote concerning this book.
"If ever a piece of writing could produce mass hatred, it is this one. . . . This book is about lies and slander."
—Elie Wiesel, Nobel Peace Prize Laureate

Read it and for once in your life don't be you.

As for all your woefully inaccurate and incorrect comments about WWII (get the entire country out of a depression that was strangulating the nation not a benefit or at the end being the only remaining super power after the war?). But I can't find the will at the moment.

Also i never read a passage in the bible that said white people were gods people and if God would accept a hate fill piece of human garbage like you then he is not God and I have nothing to fear.

Also Jesus was born in the middle east and walked around in the sun a lot. So by the time he was a adult he would have been quite a dark brown.
He who? Stan..
Please use the quote function tab like this one from above. (https://conservativepoliticalforum.com/Themes/default/images/bbc/quote.gif)
Title: Re: WORLD WAR TWO: The spoils of war.
Post by: walkstall on November 03, 2013, 07:41:20 AM
Quote from: Solar on November 03, 2013, 06:37:24 AM
He who? Stan..
Please use the quote function tab like this one from above. (https://conservativepoliticalforum.com/Themes/default/images/bbc/quote.gif)

I think he is talking about Blauritter, he is no longer a member. 
Title: Re: WORLD WAR TWO: The spoils of war.
Post by: Mountainshield on November 03, 2013, 08:13:29 AM
So much for the blue knight, I often think these retarded bigots are communists in disguise, I often lurk communist forums and internet warriors there often talk about "infiltrating" conservative sites as racists.

Then again i forget there really exist people stupid as shit like this blue knight over here.  :laugh:

Good riddance.
Title: Re: WORLD WAR TWO: The spoils of war.
Post by: kopema on November 03, 2013, 08:37:26 AM
Quote from: Mountainshield on November 03, 2013, 08:13:29 AM
So much for the blue knight, I often think these retarded bigots are communists in disguise, I often lurk communist forums and internet warriors there often talk about "infiltrating" conservative sites as racists.

Liberal racists are always in disguise.  The only distinction is that sometimes their disguise actually works on themselves.

I knew a guy whose politics were radically Communist, yet he constantly referred to himself as a "conservative."  Turns out he had bought into the liberal propaganda so fully he actually believed that's what a conservative IS.  It's like:  "Sure I'm utterly convinced that Karl Marx is God.  But I also believe in class warfare, so that means I can't possibly be liberal."

That's what people mean when they say that if you go far enough left wing, you end up right wing.  Liberals all start out selectively bigoted, in order to punish only a few of the "worst" races for the sins of their great-great-great grandparents.  But they finally realize if they go back far enough, everyone deserves to be punished.  It's hard to tell whether that means that skinheads are smarter or dumber than hippies.  But in the final analysis it's unfair to (pardon the expression) discriminate between them - because the only real difference is in hair style.
Title: Re: WORLD WAR TWO: The spoils of war.
Post by: Solar on November 03, 2013, 09:31:18 AM
Quote from: kopema on November 03, 2013, 08:37:26 AM
Liberal racists are always in disguise.  The only distinction is that sometimes their disguise actually works on themselves.

I knew a guy whose politics were radically Communist, yet he constantly referred to himself as a "conservative."  Turns out he had bought into the liberal propaganda so fully he actually believed that's what a conservative IS.  It's like:  "Sure I'm utterly convinced that Karl Marx is God.  But I also believe in class warfare, so that means I can't possibly be liberal."

That's what people mean when they say that if you go far enough left wing, you end up right wing.  Liberals all start out selectively bigoted, in order to punish only a few of the "worst" races for the sins of their great-great-great grandparents.  But they finally realize if they go back far enough, everyone deserves to be punished.  It's hard to tell whether that means that skinheads are smarter or dumber than hippies.  But in the final analysis it's unfair to (pardon the expression) discriminate between them - because the only real difference is in hair style.
"Liberal" is the epitome of racist, but as you pointed out, they're too stupid to realize it.
Title: Re: WORLD WAR TWO: The spoils of war.
Post by: Stanthemilkman on November 04, 2013, 10:42:59 PM
My reply was to Blauritter.

I just really hate mass lies, like the protocols. Can't believe people still buy into that crap. Was he just a troll?

oh well. Ill remember to use the quote function next time.
Title: Re: WORLD WAR TWO: The spoils of war.
Post by: LibDave on November 11, 2013, 09:26:04 AM
We don't give Israel millions and millions of dollars Blauritter.
Title: Re: WORLD WAR TWO: The spoils of war.
Post by: mdgiles on November 20, 2013, 04:23:47 PM
Quote from: LibDave on November 11, 2013, 09:26:04 AM
We don't give Israel millions and millions of dollars Blauritter.
But we do give Arab countries trillions. Either in aid, or because our dick head President, and his fellow Dims, won't let us develop our own energy resources.
Title: Re: WORLD WAR TWO: The spoils of war.
Post by: TboneAgain on November 20, 2013, 05:10:54 PM
Quote from: mdgiles on November 20, 2013, 04:23:47 PM
But we do give Arab countries trillions. Either in aid, or because our dick head President, and his fellow Dims, won't let us develop our own energy resources.

Ah, that's a bit of a stretch, to call the oil money a "gift." It is money paid in fair trade on an international commodity exchange. The oil is overpriced, primarily because of the political and economic policies of a long list of free nations, including this one. But we do get to keep the oil we buy on that market.

That said, I couldn't agree with you more that our domestic energy policy is a clusterf**k. That fact is largely, but not wholly, due to policies supported by the Democrat party and those on the Left. There is indeed work to be done in this field.

Let's get busy!  :tounge:
Title: Re: WORLD WAR TWO: The spoils of war.
Post by: Solar on November 20, 2013, 05:16:43 PM
Quote from: TboneAgain on November 20, 2013, 05:10:54 PM
Ah, that's a bit of a stretch, to call the oil money a "gift." It is money paid in fair trade on an international commodity exchange. The oil is overpriced, primarily because of the political and economic policies of a long list of free nations, including this one. But we do get to keep the oil we buy on that market.

That said, I couldn't agree with you more that our domestic energy policy is a clusterf**k. That fact is largely, but not wholly, due to policies supported by the Democrat party and those on the Left. There is indeed work to be done in this field.

Let's get busy!  :tounge:
Absolutely true, and the reason is to keep the dollar solvent via trade in an oil dollar.
If, at this point we were to pull out and quit buying M/E oil, they would abandon the dollar in whole, leaving us stuck with a worthless buck.
The only reason the world is still linked to the dollar is solely based on oil.
Both party's put us in this mess. :cursing:
Title: Re: WORLD WAR TWO: The spoils of war.
Post by: TboneAgain on November 20, 2013, 05:36:25 PM
Quote from: Solar on November 20, 2013, 05:16:43 PM
Absolutely true, and the reason is to keep the dollar solvent via trade in an oil dollar.
If, at this point we were to pull out and quit buying M/E oil, they would abandon the dollar in whole, leaving us stuck with a worthless buck.
The only reason the world is still linked to the dollar is solely based on oil.
Both party's put us in this mess. :cursing:

Even if we were to manage a state where our oil production, as just one example, was sufficient to supply all our needs, it wouldn't. Energy is an international market, and is unlikely to ever become anything else. It is simply cheaper to ship and sell Alaskan oil, for example, to Japan and China than it is to send it via the Panama Canal to the mega-refineries on our Gulf Coast.

In any case the best thing we can do is maximize our production of oil and other energy, but the effect is going to be rather incremental as long as we participate in international commodity markets. When Middle Eastern crude is selling for $115 in, say, Australia, and US refineries are offering $45, guess where the crude is going? Crikey, mate, we'll deliver the stuff in 'roo's pouches!
Title: Re: WORLD WAR TWO: The spoils of war.
Post by: mdgiles on November 24, 2013, 12:55:45 PM
Quote from: Solar on November 20, 2013, 05:16:43 PM
Absolutely true, and the reason is to keep the dollar solvent via trade in an oil dollar.
If, at this point we were to pull out and quit buying M/E oil, they would abandon the dollar in whole, leaving us stuck with a worthless buck.
The only reason the world is still linked to the dollar is solely based on oil.
Both party's put us in this mess. :cursing:
The US has enough oil and gas to reduce the ME to the sand box full of savages it actually is, while strengthening our own economy and hence the dollar.
Title: Re: WORLD WAR TWO: The spoils of war.
Post by: Solar on November 24, 2013, 02:13:01 PM
Quote from: mdgiles on November 24, 2013, 12:55:45 PM
The US has enough oil and gas to reduce the ME to the sand box full of savages it actually is, while strengthening our own economy and hence the dollar.
Absolutely correct!
But I was basing it on the socialists policy makers we have currently in office.

In an ideal world, we'd tell the M/E to screw themselves, and sell our oil at $30 per barrel, and lower if necessary, literally cutting OPEC off at the knees.

But the left won't let us and the GOP is in bed with them, so we're stuck laying at the mercy of a bunch of Muscums dictating what the world pays for oil.
Title: Re: WORLD WAR TWO: The spoils of war.
Post by: TboneAgain on November 24, 2013, 07:21:07 PM
Quote from: Solar on November 24, 2013, 02:13:01 PM
Absolutely correct!
But I was basing it on the socialists policy makers we have currently in office.

In an ideal world, we'd tell the M/E to screw themselves, and sell our oil at $30 per barrel, and lower if necessary, literally cutting OPEC off at the knees.

But the left won't let us and the GOP is in bed with them, so we're stuck laying at the mercy of a bunch of Muscums dictating what the world pays for oil.

Well, there's just one little problem with that scenario. If somehow we managed to lower the price of American oil to $30, exploration, most drilling, and some production would stop tomorrow. Asking oil companies to take a 75% price cut from what they're getting now might just overwhelm their patriotism. Getting their cooperation would likely require nationalization Venezuela-style, and I don't think we want to go there.

Other than that little thing, I love the idea!  :tounge:
Title: Re: WORLD WAR TWO: The spoils of war.
Post by: Solar on November 25, 2013, 06:50:17 AM
Quote from: TboneAgain on November 24, 2013, 07:21:07 PM
Well, there's just one little problem with that scenario. If somehow we managed to lower the price of American oil to $30, exploration, most drilling, and some production would stop tomorrow. Asking oil companies to take a 75% price cut from what they're getting now might just overwhelm their patriotism. Getting their cooperation would likely require nationalization Venezuela-style, and I don't think we want to go there.

Other than that little thing, I love the idea!  :tounge:
That was the point, it was to manipulate the price of oil, just like OPEC has done at the other end of the spectrum.
Reality? Of course not, unless the powers that be, decide it's time to kill OPEC.

Kill OPEC, is that too much to ask? :laugh:
Title: Re: WORLD WAR TWO: The spoils of war.
Post by: Egg on December 13, 2013, 12:59:02 PM
What did the US get out of the whole thing?  By default, pretty much mastery of the planet.  Though 420,000 or so dead Americans is appalling, those deaths are peanuts compared to most nations who fought the war, or had the war fought on their soil.  Western Europe was devastated.  Eastern Europe was devastated and taken over by the Soviet Union, whose population and infrastructure was also devastated.  Where the war was fought in Asia and the Pacific, those nations were devastated. 

The US became the center of democracy, human creativity and dynamism, and free markets because there was no other nation that could.    Americans may look back with nostalgia at how we were the center of the universe during the '50s, but that is because were the only thriving industrial nation at the time to be that center. 

The entire reason there is global competition with the American worker today (you mention the Japanese auto industry, etc.) has to do with our victory in WWII, and our defense of freedom in so much of the globe after that victory. It's a good thing for humanity that we pushed and protected freedom abroad.  That so much of the world has embraced free market capitalism and industrialization has meant competition for the American worker, but it has also lifted countless people out of wretched poverty and has dramatically reduced wars and other forms of violence.  That's part of the American spoils too.   
Title: Re: WORLD WAR TWO: The spoils of war.
Post by: kalash on June 05, 2014, 11:36:28 PM
Quote from: Blauritter on October 07, 2013, 04:26:36 PM

Another reminder of the great gains we made since WWII is in the entertainment industry.
Results of the war? The most of the world's gold ended up in US, all US competitors in ruins, dollar became world currency... Not enough? Well, the ones who fought at war hardly could be blamed for what happen 60-7o years after the war.
Title: Re: WORLD WAR TWO: The spoils of war.
Post by: mdgiles on June 16, 2014, 12:15:55 PM
Quote from: TboneAgain on November 24, 2013, 07:21:07 PM
Well, there's just one little problem with that scenario. If somehow we managed to lower the price of American oil to $30, exploration, most drilling, and some production would stop tomorrow. Asking oil companies to take a 75% price cut from what they're getting now might just overwhelm their patriotism. Getting their cooperation would likely require nationalization Venezuela-style, and I don't think we want to go there.

Other than that little thing, I love the idea!  :tounge:
Ever hear how businesses will sometimes lower their prices, even when losing money, in order to drive a competitor out of business? With out oil money, the OPEC governments would no longer be able to pay off their people. When their people revolt - as usual - they will probably end up removing themselves from the oil market - at which point the prices will rise.