Will Israel make a preemptive strike against Iranian nuclear sites?

Started by LibDave, October 24, 2013, 03:24:29 AM

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moxen

hi,
this is a real idea in jew-arab diplomates but the costs are too much, the reports say that iran have ballestic missils with 2k kms at least and this means israel and s-arabia can dameged from iranian's reply, and at last, the equation between the prices they have to pay and what they really can gain tells us the probablity of an invasion to islamic republic  of iran

red_dirt

I repost this strictly for information purposes.
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Looks like It's coming together???....they want to put J'sem under international control (Jacob Prasch speculated that this would be how they would "do it")....... and note the timeline - 29th April for the framework and then 2-3 yrs from then for security arrangements to be fixed etc.
Merkel is in Israel now.
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Obama Pledges Declaration Of Palestinian State In 2014
February 26, 2014 | Debbie Smith
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A senior Palestinian negotiator told WND reporter Aaron Klien that the Palestinian Authority has received a pledge from the Obama administration that by the end of 2014, the administration will issue an official declaration presenting general highlights of a Palestinian state.

Other sources are also reporting this leaked story.
According to the negotiator, the administration continues to work toward a preliminary outline of the deal by April. The current plan calls for a phased implementation of increased Palestinian authority during a three to five year period.
Eastern sections of Jerusalem would come under PA control, although the exact territories have yet to be defined.
Israel would be defined as "occupiers" in the Jordan Valley territory as well as in The West Bank, the negotiator stated.
U.S. Secretary of State, John Kerry, is calling for an international administrative mandate to control Holy Sites in east Jerusalem. The mandate could include a coalition of the Vatican and Muslim countries such as Saudi Arabia and Turkey.
Speculation over the role of the Vatican increased this week after a secretive meeting took place between the Jerusalem Municipality, The Prime Minister's Office and senior Catholic officials. The Catholic delegation is reported to have pressed for control over the compound that houses the traditional "Hall of the Last Supper" - with some rumors that such a move could be linked in anticipation of Pope Francis visit to Israel in May.
It is expected that any proposal for a Palestinian state would be a temporary fix, lasting two to three years to allow for security arrangements to be ironed out between the Israeli's and the Palestinians.
Recently, Israel's Defense Minister Moshe Ya 'alon characterized John Kerry's pursuit of this deal as an "incomprehensible obsession". Ya'alon has been harshly critical of Kerry's" persistent effort's to force Israel to surrender its land.
Perhaps Kerry's "obsession" is due to statements by PA President Mahmoud Abbas suggesting that he will not negotiate past the April 29th deadline, if a framework agreement is not achieved.,
Currently, major sticking points between the Israeli's and Palestinians are; borders, Jerusalem, return of Palestinian refugees, IDF presence in the West Bank, and the PA's refusal to recognize Jewish statehood.
Nearly 3000 years ago, the prophet Joel under Divine inspiration recorded these words of warning for just such a time. "For behold in those days and at that time, when I bring back the captives of Judah and Jerusalem, I will gather all nations, and bring them down to the valley of Jehoshaphat; and I will enter into judgment with them there on account of my people, My heritage Israel, whom they have scattered among the nations; they have also divided up my land."
The Bible is very clear on this matter; the Lord will judge all nations who divide his land, Israel

kevmo

If I were Israel, I wouldn't do an overt strike.  I would do a suitcase nuke in the heart of the Iranian nuke project and let them all think it was an accident.  :wink:   Let Iran's neighbors clean up the mess and see just what it means to enter nukes into the fray. 

CatholicCrusader

Quote from: kevmo on March 20, 2014, 10:39:02 PM
If I were Israel, I wouldn't do an overt strike.  I would do a suitcase nuke in the heart of the Iranian nuke project and let them all think it was an accident.  :wink:   Let Iran's neighbors clean up the mess and see just what it means to enter nukes into the fray.
Good idea. BUT: I think that the fallout can be analyzed in such a way that they can actually determine the source of the uranium or plutonium right down to the reactor and the date.

red_dirt

Black Market has plenty of Russian fuel, or did.
Still, I judge the idea a little extreme. Maybe I am too soft. Hard to
believe.  But isn't that stooping to the level of Islam?  :popcorn:

kevmo

Quote from: CatholicCrusader on May 18, 2014, 04:42:32 AM
Good idea. BUT: I think that the fallout can be analyzed in such a way that they can actually determine the source of the uranium or plutonium right down to the reactor and the date.
Since the explosion would take place right in the center of the Iranian nuke project, the fallout would contain Iranian fissionable material.

kevmo

Quote from: red_dirt on May 23, 2014, 10:30:07 AM
Black Market has plenty of Russian fuel, or did.
Still, I judge the idea a little extreme. Maybe I am too soft. Hard to
believe.  But isn't that stooping to the level of Islam?  :popcorn:
There are reasons why I'm not in charge.      :wink:

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quiller

Quote from: red_dirt on May 23, 2014, 10:30:07 AM
Black Market has plenty of Russian fuel, or did.
Still, I judge the idea a little extreme. Maybe I am too soft. Hard to
believe.  But isn't that stooping to the level of Islam?  :popcorn:

No, it is pest control, broadly applied. After 9/11, I haven't got one shred of patience with the animals of Allah.

CG6468

Quote from: quiller on June 29, 2014, 04:51:19 AMNo, it is pest control, broadly applied. After 9/11, I haven't got one shred of patience with the animals of Allah.

Nor do I.
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