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« on: August 16, 2017, 07:25:59 AM »
Why are there three international coalitions now to combat international terrorism?

The first such anti-ISIS coalition is led by the USA, the second one – by Russia and the third one by Saudi Arabia (there are 36 countries there). Syrian president Assad has long been nearly one sole force trying to really restrain terrorists in the region. No wonder Russia has been so actively relying exactly on Assad.  Most experts believe that Russia led coalition comprising, apart from Russia, Syria and Iran is the most successful in fighting IS.  Plants producing weapons for terrorists groups, storage facilities, and terrorists training sites have been targets for Russian military jets. Vast territories in Syria have been cleaned of the IS presence due to this Russian coalition..
 I think we should stay fully aware of the fact those three coalitions are due to their different agenda in the region. Some countries declaring their strong commitment to fighting terrorists are actually performing the role of their sponsors and supporters. The most vivid illustration is Turkey  intensely interested in profits from the illegal sale of Syrian oil is right the case. 

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Re: Why are there three international coalitions now to combat...
« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2017, 08:12:33 AM »
Why are there three international coalitions now to combat international terrorism?

The first such anti-ISIS coalition is led by the USA, the second one – by Russia and the third one by Saudi Arabia (there are 36 countries there). Syrian president Assad has long been nearly one sole force trying to really restrain terrorists in the region. No wonder Russia has been so actively relying exactly on Assad.  Most experts believe that Russia led coalition comprising, apart from Russia, Syria and Iran is the most successful in fighting IS.  Plants producing weapons for terrorists groups, storage facilities, and terrorists training sites have been targets for Russian military jets. Vast territories in Syria have been cleaned of the IS presence due to this Russian coalition..
 I think we should stay fully aware of the fact those three coalitions are due to their different agenda in the region. Some countries declaring their strong commitment to fighting terrorists are actually performing the role of their sponsors and supporters. The most vivid illustration is Turkey  intensely interested in profits from the illegal sale of Syrian oil is right the case.

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« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2017, 08:46:09 AM »
Why are there three international coalitions now to combat international terrorism?

The first such anti-ISIS coalition is led by the USA, the second one – by Russia and the third one by Saudi Arabia (there are 36 countries there). Syrian president Assad has long been nearly one sole force trying to really restrain terrorists in the region. No wonder Russia has been so actively relying exactly on Assad.  Most experts believe that Russia led coalition comprising, apart from Russia, Syria and Iran is the most successful in fighting IS.  Plants producing weapons for terrorists groups, storage facilities, and terrorists training sites have been targets for Russian military jets. Vast territories in Syria have been cleaned of the IS presence due to this Russian coalition..
 I think we should stay fully aware of the fact those three coalitions are due to their different agenda in the region. Some countries declaring their strong commitment to fighting terrorists are actually performing the role of their sponsors and supporters. The most vivid illustration is Turkey  intensely interested in profits from the illegal sale of Syrian oil is right the case.
One Nations terrorist, is another's freedom fighter.
Turkey decided to become a terrorist state when it embraced Sharia recently, which essentially makes it an enemy of the free world.
I still advocate NATO kick their Muscum asses to the curb!

But as Sup inquired, WTF was your point?
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« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2017, 03:51:19 PM »
One Nations terrorist, is another's freedom fighter.
Turkey decided to become a terrorist state when it embraced Sharia recently, which essentially makes it an enemy of the free world.
I still advocate NATO kick their Muscum asses to the curb!

But as Sup inquired, WTF was your point?

I don't know, there are so many Turks who are against Sharia I think the worst thing to do is to alienate them, going off topic here but demographically speaking the Turks has always been the most entrepreneurial immigrants in Nordic countries.  Sure a lot of their business is starting restaurants, running them on a loss by preferring cash payments to avoid taxes and when they go bankrupt on the debt they sell the property to relatives who does the same thing over again it is at least more productive than Pakistani immigrants who gets rich on drugs/violent criminality or African/Syrian refugees who just blatantly exploit the welfare system.

The Turks have average IQ of around 95 whereas the rest of the muslim world is below 85 all the way down to 60. Which can explain why the Turks are the only immigrants who have been able to integrate to a adequate level of not causing total isolation in comparison to other muslim immigrant groups.

I don't like Turkey support of ISIS, but as a European and not American I don't hate ISIS as much as you do as Norway was only part of the first weeks of Operation Iraqi Freedom (at least I think so, my lieutenant in the Royal Guard was a Iraqi War Veteran). So I don't feel any ownership of the stability of Iraq as we haven't shed precious blood for it. I hate Iran, Qatar and Saudi Arabia more than Turkey. And Turkey has stopped the tide of refugees into Europe to some degree, and what we Europeans arrogantly forget is that they can open the gates any time they want, it's not like we can attack Turkey for opening their borders into ours when all we western European talk about is how great diversity is.

Outside my interest in supporting Turkey as the only "muslim" nation having the intellectual capacity of being somewhat compatible with Europe and voting for parties that are for closing the borders, then as for Sunni's, Shias, ISIS or Assad killing each other I can only say





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« Reply #4 on: August 29, 2017, 04:06:11 PM »
I don't know, there are so many Turks who are against Sharia I think the worst thing to do is to alienate them, going off topic here but demographically speaking the Turks has always been the most entrepreneurial immigrants in Nordic countries.  Sure a lot of their business is starting restaurants, running them on a loss by preferring cash payments to avoid taxes and when they go bankrupt on the debt they sell the property to relatives who does the same thing over again it is at least more productive than Pakistani immigrants who gets rich on drugs/violent criminality or African/Syrian refugees who just blatantly exploit the welfare system.

The Turks have average IQ of around 95 whereas the rest of the muslim world is below 85 all the way down to 60. Which can explain why the Turks are the only immigrants who have been able to integrate to a adequate level of not causing total isolation in comparison to other muslim immigrant groups.

I don't like Turkey support of ISIS, but as a European and not American I don't hate ISIS as much as you do as Norway was only part of the first weeks of Operation Iraqi Freedom (at least I think so, my lieutenant in the Royal Guard was a Iraqi War Veteran). So I don't feel any ownership of the stability of Iraq as we haven't shed precious blood for it. I hate Iran, Qatar and Saudi Arabia more than Turkey. And Turkey has stopped the tide of refugees into Europe to some degree, and what we Europeans arrogantly forget is that they can open the gates any time they want, it's not like we can attack Turkey for opening their borders into ours when all we western European talk about is how great diversity is.

Outside my interest in supporting Turkey as the only "muslim" nation having the intellectual capacity of being somewhat compatible with Europe and voting for parties that are for closing the borders, then as for Sunni's, Shias, ISIS or Assad killing each other I can only say


I can understand your ambivalence toward Turkey, but as a member of NATO. One Hell of a lot of responsibility is associated with such a position, and having a Muscum dictator befriending the enemy of Christian/American culture, is literally suicide.

At what point do we draw the line? When he leaks secrets to the enemy and thumbs it in our face?
Or end it now, before it starts, if it hasn't already? I elect the latter.
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« Reply #5 on: August 29, 2017, 04:27:21 PM »
One Nations terrorist, is another's freedom fighter.

One man's terrorist, is another man's Arab - Rucka Rucka Ali  :tounge:

Yeah problem is if Turkey falls then the floodgates to Europe would open and there would be no stopping it, if people in Pakistan all the way too Zimbabwe knew that the road to Europe was completely open they would rush to be come in before it would be closed. People trek from Nigeria to Turkey and into Greece now, if there wasn't the human trafficking taking $30000 each person then with the borders down that price would fall drastically or completely which would increase the human wave beyond the welfare carrying capacity which is already imploding under current stress.

But if it comes to siding with Russia or Turkey then yeah Russia is best option, if it's between Turkey, Egypt, Iran or Saudi Arabia then I think its best to support Turkey just out of self interest, at least until we have proof that they are supporting terrorism against us directly. I'm not 100% on the ethnic makeup of Turkey, you have the Turks and the Turks that have interbred with Greek ethnic citizens for decades, not sure if Turks on the east side of the black sea strait have different ethnic makeup in between them,  but if they do then we should support those who are the most pro western pro democracy oriented, maybe even split up the country between East and West.

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« Reply #6 on: August 29, 2017, 05:10:40 PM »
One man's terrorist, is another man's Arab - Rucka Rucka Ali  :tounge:

Yeah problem is if Turkey falls then the floodgates to Europe would open and there would be no stopping it, if people in Pakistan all the way too Zimbabwe knew that the road to Europe was completely open they would rush to be come in before it would be closed. People trek from Nigeria to Turkey and into Greece now, if there wasn't the human trafficking taking $30000 each person then with the borders down that price would fall drastically or completely which would increase the human wave beyond the welfare carrying capacity which is already imploding under current stress.

But if it comes to siding with Russia or Turkey then yeah Russia is best option, if it's between Turkey, Egypt, Iran or Saudi Arabia then I think its best to support Turkey just out of self interest, at least until we have proof that they are supporting terrorism against us directly. I'm not 100% on the ethnic makeup of Turkey, you have the Turks and the Turks that have interbred with Greek ethnic citizens for decades, not sure if Turks on the east side of the black sea strait have different ethnic makeup in between them,  but if they do then we should support those who are the most pro western pro democracy oriented, maybe even split up the country between East and West.
You just breached a topic I've been wanting your insight on for some time now.
That is, WTF are your leaders thinking, letting all these scum in, what, if any, is the upside to flooding the country with these scum?
Switzerland is already the rape capital of Europe, (so we're told) and now it looks like the Netherlands is following suit?
What are the people saying and doing to stop it, or are they still quiet on the issue? Protests?
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« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2017, 06:44:22 AM »
You just breached a topic I've been wanting your insight on for some time now.
That is, WTF are your leaders thinking, letting all these scum in, what, if any, is the upside to flooding the country with these scum?
Switzerland is already the rape capital of Europe, (so we're told) and now it looks like the Netherlands is following suit?
What are the people saying and doing to stop it, or are they still quiet on the issue? Protests?

I guess you mean Sweden, Switzerland are not member of the EU, though they are part of the European Economic Area (EEA) unlike Norway however they are taking almost no refugees. The Swiss are probably the most insidious and intelligent group of people in Europe, they are huge supporters of globalization, diversity and the suicidal liberalism of the EU though themselves have the strongest militia organization of Europe, they are not bound by EU laws, they have best tax laws in EU and work as safe haven for the EU elites, they have well functioning welfare system as they also take care of not outsourcing all types of work whenever possible as they have different economic zones for industries and finance and they have a focus on education that is not ideological driven.

You have protests but it's very dangerous to engage in those activities as you will get fired if found out, and maybe getting your unemployment benefits will be delayed or run into some bureaucratic problems if you are flagged as a "possible racist" in the police registry which all directorates have access too.

Luckily we have conservative regime in power now in Norway and they stopped the flood of refugees being herded into Norway from Russia and Greece and even evoked a law that say that Norway will not be bound by UN regulations to allow refugees in from Sweden when Sweden inevitably collapses as Trump correctly confirmed the day before the ironic muslim riots which ruined the leftist narrative that "everything is fine here, diversity is fine, nothing to see here" lol

As for the intention even moderate centrist are acknowledging now that the reasons are political, statistics show refugees even 1st and 2nd generation migrants vote 90% for labor parties. So the only way the socialists can maintain their postwar majorities which are dying off to old age is to bring in non native ethnic groups who vote for them out self interest in welfare benefits, refugee benefits and continual open borders to bring in the rest of their extended families. The younger generations do not have a sense of loyalty from the post war period to vote socialist, more younger generations know capitalism/free market/liberty work than the older generations which is possible the opposite of what is happening in the USA.

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« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2017, 07:47:10 AM »
I guess you mean Sweden, Switzerland are not member of the EU, though they are part of the European Economic Area (EEA) unlike Norway however they are taking almost no refugees. The Swiss are probably the most insidious and intelligent group of people in Europe, they are huge supporters of globalization, diversity and the suicidal liberalism of the EU though themselves have the strongest militia organization of Europe, they are not bound by EU laws, they have best tax laws in EU and work as safe haven for the EU elites, they have well functioning welfare system as they also take care of not outsourcing all types of work whenever possible as they have different economic zones for industries and finance and they have a focus on education that is not ideological driven.

You have protests but it's very dangerous to engage in those activities as you will get fired if found out, and maybe getting your unemployment benefits will be delayed or run into some bureaucratic problems if you are flagged as a "possible racist" in the police registry which all directorates have access too.

Luckily we have conservative regime in power now in Norway and they stopped the flood of refugees being herded into Norway from Russia and Greece and even evoked a law that say that Norway will not be bound by UN regulations to allow refugees in from Sweden when Sweden inevitably collapses as Trump correctly confirmed the day before the ironic muslim riots which ruined the leftist narrative that "everything is fine here, diversity is fine, nothing to see here" lol

As for the intention even moderate centrist are acknowledging now that the reasons are political, statistics show refugees even 1st and 2nd generation migrants vote 90% for labor parties. So the only way the socialists can maintain their postwar majorities which are dying off to old age is to bring in non native ethnic groups who vote for them out self interest in welfare benefits, refugee benefits and continual open borders to bring in the rest of their extended families. The younger generations do not have a sense of loyalty from the post war period to vote socialist, more younger generations know capitalism/free market/liberty work than the older generations which is possible the opposite of what is happening in the USA.


Fascinating! I wondered what the drive in Sweden was to flood the country with Muscum male adults, but the truth is, this is a totally suicidal move, in that they won't come and integrate, they will take over in voting blocks, eventually having a say in current laws, (Sharia).
I've never understood the mentality of a leftist, where they are willing to sacrifice the future for power today.
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« Reply #9 on: August 30, 2017, 08:09:52 AM »
Fascinating! I wondered what the drive in Sweden was to flood the country with Muscum male adults, but the truth is, this is a totally suicidal move, in that they won't come and integrate, they will take over in voting blocks, eventually having a say in current laws, (Sharia).
I've never understood the mentality of a leftist, where they are willing to sacrifice the future for power today.

Indeed, I have wondered about that myself. Sweden even has a housing crisis because of migrant crisis and were even for a period expropriating people's garages as houses for muscums, and even offering hotels over $90/night to house refugees, now this last point they do in Norway too and you could see the hotel managers cheering in the media. Seeing their glee at stealing taxpayer money to house "migrants" could have made me vote full on communism if it meant that they would lose their businesses.

I think the leftists either think that migrants will continue to live in the ghettos and continue to vote for white socialists no matter their potential "islamist party" could get, and the muscums are playing it safe by infiltrating labor parties changing them from the inside out instead of starting a "Allhahu akkbara Party". Or they are actually going to make a deal at some point, convert to Islam in order to maintain their political status when the time comes

Just check out the ethnic composition of the Oslo labor Party, and this is just the upper politburo
https://oslo.arbeiderpartiet.no/representanter/

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« Reply #10 on: August 30, 2017, 08:22:21 AM »
Indeed, I have wondered about that myself. Sweden even has a housing crisis because of migrant crisis and were even for a period expropriating people's garages as houses for muscums, and even offering hotels over $90/night to house refugees, now this last point they do in Norway too and you could see the hotel managers cheering in the media. Seeing their glee at stealing taxpayer money to house "migrants" could have made me vote full on communism if it meant that they would lose their businesses.

I think the leftists either think that migrants will continue to live in the ghettos and continue to vote for white socialists no matter their potential "islamist party" could get, and the muscums are playing it safe by infiltrating labor parties changing them from the inside out instead of starting a "Allhahu akkbara Party". Or they are actually going to make a deal at some point, convert to Islam in order to maintain their political status when the time comes

Just check out the ethnic composition of the Oslo labor Party, and this is just the upper politburo
https://oslo.arbeiderpartiet.no/representanter/
Bingo!
It worked here with the black community only because blacks were pretty much at the mercy of leftist welfare programs after Lindon Berg Johnson split up the black family, which prior to 1964, had the lowest divorce rate in the nation.
The rest is history, and maybe that's the plan of leftists in Sweden, thinking they can destroy the structure of Muscums?
Problem is, they imported 95% males of fighting age.
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