Venezuala US Protests

Started by J Rearden, March 14, 2015, 06:34:49 AM

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The world is growing tired of washington psychopaths using the reserve currency stewardship to subordinate other countries.
"Olenia Quintana, 32, of the Pioneers Encampment collective challenged what she perceives to be a clear double standard underlying the U.S president's accusations.

"If you're talking about human rights, the first thing that Obama needs to do in his country is revise all of the laws. [The United States] is the only country [in the hemisphere] with the death penalty. Here there is no death penalty."

This critique has been repeated on numerous occasions by President Nicolas Maduro who has denounced the U.S. government's human rights record vis-a-vis its own people.

On Monday, the Venezuelan leader called on Obama to defend the rights of U.S. citizens, including "Black people killed in U.S. cities every day, the thousands of people who don't have a place to sleep and die of cold on the streets of New York, Boston, or Chicago, and those detained in Guantánamo."

Despite general indignation, Venezuelans attending yesterday's rally were keen to distinguish between the actions of the U.S. government and its people.

"The message to the people of the United States is that they should rise up," declared José Zegarra, 36, a construction worker and general coordinator of the Revolutionary Hugo Chávez Workers' Front.

"In the United States, there are many dignified people who know that their government has regrettably interfered in the affairs of other countries, believing itself the world policeman. But the average North American person isn't any kind of world policeman, but a person who has to work to eat, work to pay the mortgage, work to pay the heat and everything else."

Guzmán echoed this sentiment, underscoring the need for social and political transformation in the U.S.

"[The U.S. people] must organize and make the necessary changes in their country, which is a noble but subdued country, whose people are much more subdued than our own [people]."
http://www.globalresearch.ca/venezuelan-social-movements-take-to-the-streets-to-oppose-u-s-aggression/5436490

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Usually threads such as this are coupled with a comment by the poster, so as to have a purpose other than posting someone else's opinion.
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J Rearden

My comment is the title. I thought it was fairly clear.
Here is some Psaki humor.
https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=794496860640440&fref=nf

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That article is on a wacky website IMO.  The author is Lucas Korener

Korener has a few articles on a pro Maduro/Socialist website that accuses the US of several conspiratorial things.

There is also a Korener who writes anti-Israeli stuff.  Don't know if it's the same guy.





The danger to America is not Barack Obama but the citizens capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency.

J Rearden

Actually these are direct quotes from the President and José Zegarra. Does it matter what website quoted them really? I dont know the website and have little interest in it but found the quotes by the leaders of the country interesting.

Dori

Quote from: J Rearden on March 15, 2015, 06:46:09 AM
Actually these are direct quotes from the President and José Zegarra. Does it matter what website quoted them really? I dont know the website and have little interest in it but found the quotes by the leaders of the country interesting.

I'm always curious about sources. I like to know the "agendas" of the people who write about political issues. Maduro is a left wing socialist nut that says a lot of anti-American and paranoid things, and the articles by Koerner appear to be pro Chavista. 

As to what Obama's doing in/to Venezuela is anybody's guess. If he is doing what the article is saying, then I would say it's out of his character.

As to Zegarra, he's a speaker for the Revolutionary Hugo Chavez Workers Front.  What is that?  A communist style labor movement?  A Marxist Occupy Wall Street protest crowd?
The danger to America is not Barack Obama but the citizens capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency.

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Quote from: J Rearden on March 15, 2015, 06:46:09 AM
Actually these are direct quotes from the President and José Zegarra. Does it matter what website quoted them really? I dont know the website and have little interest in it but found the quotes by the leaders of the country interesting.
Yes, it makes all the difference in the world. If it came from the Louis Farrakhan site, would not only diminish it's credibility, it makes one question the motive behind pointing it out, considering the man hates everyone and sees Jooos under every rock.

This is why I asked for a comment, I wanted to understand your motivation for posting it.
Simply saying it's in the title is pure BS! I want to know why a noob posted what they did on this forum.

Every thread on this forum represents the people of the forum. Posting links to racist sites damages the forum, posting conspiracy site links to articles stains every member with a conspiracy cloak of ignorance.

But here, you post an article from a questionable site, from an author that sympathizes with communist and commie lite nations, and all you have to say is, "It was in the title"?

I don't know you or your motivations, so questioning you over one of a total of nine posts to your name isn't too much to ask.

The idea behind this forum is discussion/debate, we dissect issues and educate our readers, we expose even our own when they go against Conservative values, and your thread falls under these parameters.

With that said, what was your motivation behind posting it?
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I dont think it is about Obama but more a very long line of chaos provoked regime changes issued by washington. I mean this goes back to the 1950s.
""In order to facilitate the action of liberative (sic) forces... a special effort should be made to eliminate certain key individuals. ...[to] be accomplished early in the course of the uprising and intervention...

Once a political decision has been reached to proceed with internal disturbances in Syria, CIA is prepared, and SIS (MI6) will attempt to mount minor sabotage and coup de main (sic) incidents within Syria, working through contacts with individuals. ... Incidents should not be concentrated in Damascus...

Further : a "necessary degree of fear .. frontier incidents and (staged) border clashes", would "provide a pretext for intervention... the CIA and SIS [MI6 should use ... capabilitites in both psychological and action fields to augment tension." (Joint US-UK leaked Intelligence Document, London and Washington, 1957)


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Quote from: J Rearden on March 15, 2015, 08:31:49 AM
http://www.vdare.com/articles/syria-washington-s-latest-war-crime

Obama's foreign policy is incompetent at best.  Even he doesn't know who all the players are.  I don't think even our defense department knows.  As to what's happened in Libya, that's a prime example of breaking something and not sticking with it until there is internal democratic change.  Same reason pulling our troops out of Iraq caused a vacuum for ISIS to emerge in, until the new government got their act together.

The left got all in a twitter and salivated when hearing "revolution" in the form of the Arab Spring.  What they got was an Arab nightmare, especially for the people who just want to live a somewhat normal life.  But that's the typical outcome of liberal policies.  They never look beyond their noses, or take blame for the negative fall out from their ideas.   
The danger to America is not Barack Obama but the citizens capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency.

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Quote from: J Rearden on March 15, 2015, 08:28:36 AM
I dont think it is about Obama but more a very long line of chaos provoked regime changes issued by washington. I mean this goes back to the 1950s.
""In order to facilitate the action of liberative (sic) forces... a special effort should be made to eliminate certain key individuals. ...[to] be accomplished early in the course of the uprising and intervention...

Once a political decision has been reached to proceed with internal disturbances in Syria, CIA is prepared, and SIS (MI6) will attempt to mount minor sabotage and coup de main (sic) incidents within Syria, working through contacts with individuals. ... Incidents should not be concentrated in Damascus...

Further : a "necessary degree of fear .. frontier incidents and (staged) border clashes", would "provide a pretext for intervention... the CIA and SIS [MI6 should use ... capabilitites in both psychological and action fields to augment tension." (Joint US-UK leaked Intelligence Document, London and Washington, 1957)
WTF are you prattling on about? Then your next link jumps to Syria?

Are you going to respond directly to my post, or play this weird game of connect the dots, only you seem to see?
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J Rearden

Im sorry you are struggling to keep up. The issue is that countries are growing tired of our interference in their governments as stated in the first post. I will try to dumb it down for you next time.

Dori

Quote from: J Rearden on March 20, 2015, 04:48:16 AM
Im sorry you are struggling to keep up. The issue is that countries are growing tired of our interference in their governments as stated in the first post. I will try to dumb it down for you next time.

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The danger to America is not Barack Obama but the citizens capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency.

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Quote from: J Rearden on March 20, 2015, 04:48:16 AM
Im sorry you are struggling to keep up. The issue is that countries are growing tired of our interference in their governments as stated in the first post. I will try to dumb it down for you next time.
Let me explain a couple of things here so you have a better understanding of how this forum works.

1# Use the quote function so we know whom you're addressing.

2# You're a noob, so we have no way of knowing your agenda, whether you're pro communism, white supremacist or simply a nut job.

Then you come in, post a link with absolutely no comment on your part, pro or con, which leaves the reader clueless as to your opinion or objective.
We don't know if you posted because you hate America, or simply racist, in the sense of pro South American nativism, or think that the US should pull all forces back within it's borders and play
hide our head in the sand" and hope the world leaves us alone.

So instead of taking a snarky position, explain your reason for posting.
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Quote from: J Rearden on March 20, 2015, 04:48:16 AM
Im sorry you are struggling to keep up. The issue is that countries are growing tired of our interference in their governments as stated in the first post. I will try to dumb it down for you next time.
Try it with me, Sparky.