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Re: Time To Boot Turkey Out Of NATO, NOW!!!
« Reply #15 on: July 21, 2017, 07:35:42 AM »
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Turkey announces they are now teaching JIHAD in new education curriculum

Turkish Education Minister İsmet Yılmaz has said a new national school curriculum will exclude evolution theory but will include the concept of jihad, or holy war, as part of Islamic law in textbooks.

Speaking during a press conference to introduce the new school curriculum in Ankara on Tuesday, Yılmaz said: “Jihad is an element in our religion; it is in our religion… The duty of the Education Ministry is to teach every deserving concept correctly. It is also our job to correct things that are wrongly perceived, seen or taught.”

http://therightscoop.com/nato-member-country-announces-they-are-now-teaching-jihad-in-new-education-curriculum/
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Re: Time To Boot Turkey Out Of NATO, NOW!!!
« Reply #16 on: July 21, 2017, 08:10:29 AM »
Update:

Turkey announces they are now teaching JIHAD in new education curriculum

Turkish Education Minister İsmet Yılmaz has said a new national school curriculum will exclude evolution theory but will include the concept of jihad, or holy war, as part of Islamic law in textbooks.

Speaking during a press conference to introduce the new school curriculum in Ankara on Tuesday, Yılmaz said: “Jihad is an element in our religion; it is in our religion… The duty of the Education Ministry is to teach every deserving concept correctly. It is also our job to correct things that are wrongly perceived, seen or taught.”

http://therightscoop.com/nato-member-country-announces-they-are-now-teaching-jihad-in-new-education-curriculum/

They are not our friends and do not need access to the NATO protections. Also, one can be assured Russia has access to what NATO is doing through Turkey now. Their political situation now voids the reasons they were invited to join NATO. Times change.
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Re: Time To Boot Turkey Out Of NATO, NOW!!!
« Reply #17 on: July 21, 2017, 08:20:57 AM »
They are not our friends and do not need access to the NATO protections. Also, one can be assured Russia has access to what NATO is doing through Turkey now. Their political situation now voids the reasons they were invited to join NATO. Times change.
Yep, and add to that, NATO weaponry. We do not want these 7th century animals with that kind of fire power.
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Re: Time To Boot Turkey Out Of NATO, NOW!!!
« Reply #18 on: August 06, 2017, 12:42:34 AM »
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Re: Time To Boot Turkey Out Of NATO, NOW!!!
« Reply #19 on: August 08, 2017, 12:17:08 PM »
Milos, good one.
I'm always bemused by those aware of the cyclicality of Nature, who never grasp that it also applies to History. Santana wisely observed that "Those oblivious to history are condemned to repeat it".
Anatolia was civilized since 10,000 BC; by the Hittites, Assyrians, Greeks (who founded Troy), Romans, Armenians, Byzantines ; among many others.
The Ottomans (Muslims) arrived around 1450 AD some 600 years ago which is but 5% of the time since organized culture/society first stirred in Anatolia.
Sadly, static thinkers never escape the present, insisting that matters will always be the way they are because that's the way things are.

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Re: Time To Boot Turkey Out Of NATO, NOW!!!
« Reply #20 on: August 08, 2017, 02:00:20 PM »
Milos, good one.
I'm always bemused by those aware of the cyclicality of Nature, who never grasp that it also applies to History. Santana wisely observed that "Those oblivious to history are condemned to repeat it".
Anatolia was civilized since 10,000 BC; by the Hittites, Assyrians, Greeks (who founded Troy), Romans, Armenians, Byzantines ; among many others.
The Ottomans (Muslims) arrived around 1450 AD some 600 years ago which is but 5% of the time since organized culture/society first stirred in Anatolia.
Sadly, static thinkers never escape the present, insisting that matters will always be the way they are because that's the way things are.
So you admit, NATO should boot Turkey from its ranks based on history and its cyclical nature when taking Muscums into account?
One can't deny the fact that a radical and very brutal minority is taking over Islum in an attempt to return to the good old days of quest and conquer.
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Re: Time To Boot Turkey Out Of NATO, NOW!!!
« Reply #21 on: August 10, 2017, 06:31:57 AM »
Ottoman Turks were vassals of Seljuk Turks, until their founder, Osman I Gazy (Othman), declared independence from Seljuks in 1299, and that is when Ottoman Turkish conquest in Anatolia begins. They have been a very organized and strong culture based on the Muslim faith from the very beginning, and because nobody took them too seriously, they have managed to create a great Muslim Ottoman Empire that replaced the Eastern Roman (Byzantine) Empire. History repeats itself indeed, majority of Europeans still don't take this new Muslim migrant conquest of the Christian world too seriously, and that is the danger. Anyway, the Byzantines called the Muslims the vanguard of the Antichrist.

Turkey culturally certainly does not belong together with other NATO members. (So, boot Albania too, ha ha.) But you must be aware that Turkey is very important for controlling of Middle East, Balkans, and Russia. Ukraine and Georgia were once part of Russia, so they are not so much reliable NATO allies as Turkey is. So, NATO commanders would never let Turkey go. And more, maybe it is even better that Turkey remains in NATO, so that it could be controlled. Otherwise, if unleashed, they could really start a new military conquest of Middle East and Balkans. Contrary to Arabs, Turks are actually great warriors, comparable to the best world armies, they shoot to kill, and they can accept to die in battle for glory. What would NATO do in that case, go to war against Turkey? I doubt, Turks are not Iraqis, Turks are an equal enemy, with strong chances to win a war. But, that could also be a chance to get rid of Turkey for good.
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Re: Time To Boot Turkey Out Of NATO, NOW!!!
« Reply #22 on: August 10, 2017, 07:05:43 AM »
Ottoman Turks were vassals of Seljuk Turks, until their founder, Osman I Gazy (Othman), declared independence from Seljuks in 1299, and that is when Ottoman Turkish conquest in Anatolia begins. They have been a very organized and strong culture based on the Muslim faith from the very beginning, and because nobody took them too seriously, they have managed to create a great Muslim Ottoman Empire that replaced the Eastern Roman (Byzantine) Empire. History repeats itself indeed, majority of Europeans still don't take this new Muslim migrant conquest of the Christian world too seriously, and that is the danger. Anyway, the Byzantines called the Muslims the vanguard of the Antichrist.

Turkey culturally certainly does not belong together with other NATO members. (So, boot Albania too, ha ha.) But you must be aware that Turkey is very important for controlling of Middle East, Balkans, and Russia. Ukraine and Georgia were once part of Russia, so they are not so much reliable NATO allies as Turkey is. So, NATO commanders would never let Turkey go. And more, maybe it is even better that Turkey remains in NATO, so that it could be controlled. Otherwise, if unleashed, they could really start a new military conquest of Middle East and Balkans. Contrary to Arabs, Turks are actually great warriors, comparable to the best world armies, they shoot to kill, and they can accept to die in battle for glory. What would NATO do in that case, go to war against Turkey? I doubt, Turks are not Iraqis, Turks are an equal enemy, with strong chances to win a war. But, that could also be a chance to get rid of Turkey for good.
Spot on Milos...
That's the very reason Turkey was invited, as a "Keep your friends close, keep your enemies even closer".
Problem is, Turkey in no way shares Western ideals, and I highly doubt Russia wants anything to do with them, so booting them really changes nothing, as for using them as a flyover shortcut?
Screw them, tell them, if they interfere, they'll suffer the consequences. I say we need to isolate Turkey best as possible because the dog has outgrown its kennel, but we have a nice island to stick it on.
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