I would like to start a thread about this subject. I am a busy college student majoring in Accounting. Unfortunately, I find myself preoccupied with the political goings-on within our Great Nation. I started paying attention to D.C. in 1997. I was there in 2008 calling my Congressman at the time, Illinois' Dick Durbin, inquiring about his opinion on whether Obamacare was Constitutional. As a tea partier, I was relieved when our movement culminated in the election of Trump. However, I know Marxism. It has one goal. Now, after all this time, those who espouse this evil ideology are exposing themselves. Finally, the Communists are showing their dark colors, draped in a bitter lust for power over all Americans. Imagine a few things for the sake of this thread: 1. It is Nov, 2020 and DemoComs take control of all three branches, declare a national emergency, and establish groups to confiscate guns. Do you believe this WOULD NOT start a civil war? 2. The electoral college is destroyed, kids and illegals get to vote, and Republicanism is destroyed. After deeming Republicanism and conservatism a hate crime ideology, do you believe this WOULD NOT start a civil war? Everything I just mentioned is already on the agenda for the Communists in Democrat clothing. Do you not believe a war has already begun? If you reach the only viable conclusion possible, ask yourself if you are ready. I am.
Quote from: mmtwice on March 21, 2019, 12:06:02 AM
I would like to start a thread about this subject. I am a busy college student majoring in Accounting. Unfortunately, I find myself preoccupied with the political goings-on within our Great Nation. I started paying attention to D.C. in 1997. I was there in 2008 calling my Congressman at the time, Illinois' Dick Durbin, inquiring about his opinion on whether Obamacare was Constitutional. As a tea partier, I was relieved when our movement culminated in the election of Trump. However, I know Marxism. It has one goal. Now, after all this time, those who espouse this evil ideology are exposing themselves. Finally, the Communists are showing their dark colors, draped in a bitter lust for power over all Americans. Imagine a few things for the sake of this thread: 1. It is Nov, 2020 and DemoComs take control of all three branches, declare a national emergency, and establish groups to confiscate guns. Do you believe this WOULD NOT start a civil war? 2. The electoral college is destroyed, kids and illegals get to vote, and Republicanism is destroyed. After deeming Republicanism and conservatism a hate crime ideology, do you believe this WOULD NOT start a civil war? Everything I just mentioned is already on the agenda for the Communists in Democrat clothing. Do you not believe a war has already begun? If you reach the only viable conclusion possible, ask yourself if you are ready. I am.
I think first we should ask how would be the two scenarios you mentioned be accomplished? Then we could more definitely answer your hypothesis.
Quote from: mmtwice on March 21, 2019, 12:06:02 AM
I would like to start a thread about this subject. I am a busy college student majoring in Accounting. Unfortunately, I find myself preoccupied with the political goings-on within our Great Nation. I started paying attention to D.C. in 1997. I was there in 2008 calling my Congressman at the time, Illinois' Dick Durbin, inquiring about his opinion on whether Obamacare was Constitutional. As a tea partier, I was relieved when our movement culminated in the election of Trump. However, I know Marxism. It has one goal. Now, after all this time, those who espouse this evil ideology are exposing themselves. Finally, the Communists are showing their dark colors, draped in a bitter lust for power over all Americans. Imagine a few things for the sake of this thread: 1. It is Nov, 2020 and DemoComs take control of all three branches, declare a national emergency, and establish groups to confiscate guns. Do you believe this WOULD NOT start a civil war? 2. The electoral college is destroyed, kids and illegals get to vote, and Republicanism is destroyed. After deeming Republicanism and conservatism a hate crime ideology, do you believe this WOULD NOT start a civil war? Everything I just mentioned is already on the agenda for the Communists in Democrat clothing. Do you not believe a war has already begun? If you reach the only viable conclusion possible, ask yourself if you are ready. I am.
I laugh at the thought of a civil war with these tards. Even if it got that far, it would be over in 20 minutes where they're begging us to turn the power back on.
We also have them surrounded from the start, since they're in the city and we're rural, which is inherently not a good starting position for them. They also disarmed themselves.
https://conservativehardliner.com/memes/if-these-guys-couldnt-take-our-guns
Quote from: taxed on March 21, 2019, 04:40:50 AM
I laugh at the thought of a civil war with these tards. Even if it got that far, it would be over in 20 minutes where they're begging us to turn the power back on.
We also have them surrounded from the start, since they're in the city and we're rural, which is inherently not a good starting position for them. They also disarmed themselves.
https://conservativehardliner.com/memes/if-these-guys-couldnt-take-our-guns
That's the thing,, we have all the guns and ammo, we generally prepare for extended times when utilities are unavailable, in other words, we're way ahead of the game when it comes to siege mentality. :lol:
Take each scenario I mentioned and correlate it with today's news. 1. If Dems win all 3 branches in 2020, they will do as they have suggested: make gun ownership illegal. 2. Convince enough State legislatures through force to comply with an Amendment abolishing the Electoral College as to cement their place in power for generations. 3. Make illegal citizens legal and give them and kids the right to vote to cement their place in power. 4. Pack the Supreme Court with leftists that will bury the Constitution by making our ideology a form of hate crime and speech. 5. Outlaw fossil fuels sending our economy into a tailspin thereby causing States to declare independence. In aggregate or in piecemeal, one hell of a lot hinges on the next election cycle. If any or all of what I mentioned came to pass, a civil war would escalate beyond academic debate and rhetoric. Bloodshed would occur as both sides fight for their idea of what liberty is and the left if in power, will ask the U.N. or other nations to intervene in the name of peace and justice. I do not think it would be a quick and easy thing. Besides, the left is a group of irrational liars and would take up arms just as fast as you or I would. Perhaps if they started infighting about which bathrooms to use.....In all seriousness, I just read some important numbers. The population has grown from 248 million to over 308 million from 1990 to 2010 according to Census numbers. This concerns me. Who in the hell accounted for all this growth and what is their ideology?
Quote from: mmtwice on March 21, 2019, 07:26:03 AM
Take each scenario I mentioned and correlate it with today's news. 1. If Dems win all 3 branches in 2020, they will do as they have suggested: make gun ownership illegal. 2. Convince enough State legislatures through force to comply with an Amendment abolishing the Electoral College as to cement their place in power for generations. 3. Make illegal citizens legal and give them and kids the right to vote to cement their place in power. 4. Pack the Supreme Court with leftists that will bury the Constitution by making our ideology a form of hate crime and speech. 5. Outlaw fossil fuels sending our economy into a tailspin thereby causing States to declare independence. In aggregate or in piecemeal, one hell of a lot hinges on the next election cycle. If any or all of what I mentioned came to pass, a civil war would escalate beyond academic debate and rhetoric. Bloodshed would occur as both sides fight for their idea of what liberty is and the left if in power, will ask the U.N. or other nations to intervene in the name of peace and justice. I do not think it would be a quick and easy thing. Besides, the left is a group of irrational liars and would take up arms just as fast as you or I would. Perhaps if they started infighting about which bathrooms to use.....In all seriousness, I just read some important numbers. The population has grown from 248 million to over 308 million from 1990 to 2010 according to Census numbers. This concerns me. Who in the hell accounted for all this growth and what is their ideology?
Problem with your scenario is, the left won't win. The only way the could win would be through fraud and if that were to happen, this nation would be in a civil war.
Though that's what the left wants, but it won't happen....Yet.
Your last point proves the title of this thread. Yes, the left can win, albeit nefariously. There are enough useful idiots, brainwashed leftists, politically disillusioned Americans who simply won't vote, and enough disparate groups (LBGQTXYZLMNXOPblahblahblah which I am a part of by choice and not by nature, minorities (take your pick), feminists, etc.) in a rainbow coalition that would vote for Satan as opposed to voting for a Republican that can turn this next election into a Communist takeover of our government. As such, I want to expand upon my previous point about the three branches. If (even a big if yet totally plausible) the DemoComs gain control over Congress in 2020 and end the filibuster, they will change the number of SCOTUS judges. With this action, they will deem many things illegal. Have we not seen what happens when baby murderers claim justification based upon the high court's ruling? One of the most important political truisms that I hold dear is that anything can be made illegal if those that wield power choose to make it so. Who in the hell would have ever thought killing Jews could be a matter of legality. Well, ask the Nazis. Who in the hell would have ever thought killing babies would be a matter of legality. Just ask King Herod. Who in the hell would have ever thought Communists would be this close to power? Just ask Khrushchev. My point is that despots and their minions know, as we all do, you only have to control the laws and the executive power to enforce them to make the unthinkable legal. With what is being spewed by the DemoComs this year, they will make enough declarations after gaining the power to force us to react with equal force. My last point is simply this: they are so close and they feel it is finally within reach. Many on the left have declared war and our side seems to be content with accepting a cold war mentality. It is convenient but not a sound battle strategy. You do not let the front come to you! We have done just that and now the Marxist revolutionary is on our proverbial doorstep. Preparation is required and a realization about the enemy is needed. The left will fight for what they consider a moral war like a religous zealot fights for their god. In fact, their politics is their god. "We are the ones we've been waiting for" was presumptuous and incorrect. Obama even admitted he was ten years too early. Well, we are here at that point. Are we ready to defend our right to liberty, life, and the pursuit of happiness? Are we going to be reactionary or trust our intuition that, "oh, this won't happen in 20 months? Food for thought.... I have homework to do...God bless us all.
Quote from: mmtwice on March 22, 2019, 12:59:13 AM
Your last point proves the title of this thread. Yes, the left can win, albeit nefariously. There are enough useful idiots, brainwashed leftists, politically disillusioned Americans who simply won't vote, and enough disparate groups (LBGQTXYZLMNXOPblahblahblah which I am a part of by choice and not by nature, minorities (take your pick), feminists, etc.) in a rainbow coalition that would vote for Satan as opposed to voting for a Republican that can turn this next election into a Communist takeover of our government. As such, I want to expand upon my previous point about the three branches. If (even a big if yet totally plausible) the DemoComs gain control over Congress in 2020 and end the filibuster, they will change the number of SCOTUS judges. With this action, they will deem many things illegal. Have we not seen what happens when baby murderers claim justification based upon the high court's ruling? One of the most important political truisms that I hold dear is that anything can be made illegal if those that wield power choose to make it so. Who in the hell would have ever thought killing Jews could be a matter of legality. Well, ask the Nazis. Who in the hell would have ever thought killing babies would be a matter of legality. Just ask King Herod. Who in the hell would have ever thought Communists would be this close to power? Just ask Khrushchev. My point is that despots and their minions know, as we all do, you only have to control the laws and the executive power to enforce them to make the unthinkable legal. With what is being spewed by the DemoComs this year, they will make enough declarations after gaining the power to force us to react with equal force. My last point is simply this: they are so close and they feel it is finally within reach. Many on the left have declared war and our side seems to be content with accepting a cold war mentality. It is convenient but not a sound battle strategy. You do not let the front come to you! We have done just that and now the Marxist revolutionary is on our proverbial doorstep. Preparation is required and a realization about the enemy is needed. The left will fight for what they consider a moral war like a religous zealot fights for their god. In fact, their politics is their god. "We are the ones we've been waiting for" was presumptuous and incorrect. Obama even admitted he was ten years too early. Well, we are here at that point. Are we ready to defend our right to liberty, life, and the pursuit of happiness? Are we going to be reactionary or trust our intuition that, "oh, this won't happen in 20 months? Food for thought.... I have homework to do...God bless us all.
Believe me, I understand your point. Problem is, what you see taking place on the left, is all facade, a fresh coat of paint on the same old pile of shit, that no one wants.
Their media gives the illusion that their movement is 1000 times bigger than it is by taking carefully staged events and giving the appearance that the crowds are huge, be it Muscum, gay, or a BLM protest, they'll make the claim that thousands are protesting around the country, when in fact, it was a tiny group in one of their leftist shitholes where they paid a bunch of 'ready to roll protest' employees.
Take the "Gay" movement, it was such a tiny number of people being effected no one noticed, they needed more victims, so they forced in every freak element known to humanity and gave it an acronym, LGBTQ$%^, which is slowly starting to include pedophilia. None of these groups see eye to eye but tolerate one another for power.
The left needs victims, they hold them up like they are half the Nation, when in fact, they are just a tiny percentage of the population under the banner of Dim.
Oh, and the left did not win the house, the Conservative right was fed up with the leftist GOP and their band of cronies running a scam on the electorate, TEA was born and when these scum saw the internal polling as far back as 2010, they saw the writing on the wall, most of them simply announced retirement and that included Paul Ryan as the decade moved forward, Ryan knew he was never about to be reelected.
The GOP knew this well over a few years ago, they knew the base was purging their ilk, and instead of running Conservatives to replace them, they let the seats go to the left. The GOP doesn't care about being in charge, they'd much prefer to claim victim status as well and let the left have their way. They think they may have found refuge in the Senate, but we're in the process of making that ours as we kick these leftists to the curb.
Point is, the leftist hold on the House is tenuous at best and could very possibly disappear after 2020.
I've been writing on this subject for decades now and I know of what I speak, so listen closely.
The Dim party is dead!!!!
Here is an article I wrote a couple of years back, I have more if need be, but I think this one should suffice. I can explain in further detail and answer any questions you may have.
https://conservativehardliner.com/future-democrat-party-2018-and-beyond
I read the suggested article and it holds true. The propaganda media, or American Pravda, is indebted to the subjugation of reality as they portray a lie. It is the nature of the ideology of the Marxist to do this, of course. Also, it has occurred to me that the left is made up of so many disparate groups that can't agree on much of anything, the only thing that unites them is hatred. Actually, is it not ironic that the political party of tolerance is united by the very thing they claim to abhor? Again, this is always the net result of Marxism: it bears itself only poisonous fruit resulting from its hypocritical foundation unintentionally designed to be proved a false ideology. In other words, its birth was borne of a lie about mankind. So, one can conclude that a great result of the House going DemoCom was ideal in that it simply exposes their ugly Marxism to Americans that much more transparently. The article's intent of allaying concern, however, does not broach the reality that a very dangerous enemy is at our gates. The post-election protests, campus violence against conservatives, and warlike rhetoric among those grouped together, even by the assertion of the divided Dim, are just precursors to their intent. This is a war forum and I want to expose the reality that this group, divided however it may be, will resort to measures that Marxists always have: murder. Either through legality, illegality, or insurgency, the enemy at the gates is not going away even as we judge their movement to be benign. It is malignant and war is upon us. The Marxist left is driven by one thing: hate. Historically, this usually ends up in war. What do we do? Anticipate the movements of the enemy in any and all possibilities with contingency plans ready for all scenarios. The point of my contribution was merely to introduce contemplation and give rise to the notion that a cold-war approach to an enemy INSIDE the gates requires more than academic reasoning. I have studied war in many of its historical forms and have applied a conclusion consistent with wartime approaches, especially when the enemy makes itself known and announces or demonstrates its intentions: complacency and hope do not end well for those who have war declared upon them. In much simpler terms, being prepared means pondering the possibilities however unlikely. We have a profound historical record about Communists that should be our guide. We also have the ability to plan ahead, and when we are talking about Marxists in ANY NUMBER, this should raise awareness in our minds and expectations. That is my intent, to draw attention to what I understand, as many crazies on the left believe, this ideological battle will not end in the field of debate. Not if they have anything to do about it. Again, food for thought....by the way, what am I personally doing about it since I feel so strongly? You just read it. I want to do more but I have time limitations and am not pleased about that.
Quote from: mmtwice on March 23, 2019, 04:56:28 AM
I read the suggested article and it holds true. The propaganda media, or American Pravda, is indebted to the subjugation of reality as they portray a lie. It is the nature of the ideology of the Marxist to do this, of course. Also, it has occurred to me that the left is made up of so many disparate groups that can't agree on much of anything, the only thing that unites them is hatred. Actually, is it not ironic that the political party of tolerance is united by the very thing they claim to abhor? Again, this is always the net result of Marxism: it bears itself only poisonous fruit resulting from its hypocritical foundation unintentionally designed to be proved a false ideology. In other words, its birth was borne of a lie about mankind. So, one can conclude that a great result of the House going DemoCom was ideal in that it simply exposes their ugly Marxism to Americans that much more transparently. The article's intent of allaying concern, however, does not broach the reality that a very dangerous enemy is at our gates. The post-election protests, campus violence against conservatives, and warlike rhetoric among those grouped together, even by the assertion of the divided Dim, are just precursors to their intent. This is a war forum and I want to expose the reality that this group, divided however it may be, will resort to measures that Marxists always have: murder. Either through legality, illegality, or insurgency, the enemy at the gates is not going away even as we judge their movement to be benign. It is malignant and war is upon us. The Marxist left is driven by one thing: hate. Historically, this usually ends up in war. What do we do? Anticipate the movements of the enemy in any and all possibilities with contingency plans ready for all scenarios. The point of my contribution was merely to introduce contemplation and give rise to the notion that a cold-war approach to an enemy INSIDE the gates requires more than academic reasoning. I have studied war in many of its historical forms and have applied a conclusion consistent with wartime approaches, especially when the enemy makes itself known and announces or demonstrates its intentions: complacency and hope do not end well for those who have war declared upon them. In much simpler terms, being prepared means pondering the possibilities however unlikely. We have a profound historical record about Communists that should be our guide. We also have the ability to plan ahead, and when we are talking about Marxists in ANY NUMBER, this should raise awareness in our minds and expectations. That is my intent, to draw attention to what I understand, as many crazies on the left believe, this ideological battle will not end in the field of debate. Not if they have anything to do about it. Again, food for thought....by the way, what am I personally doing about it since I feel so strongly? You just read it. I want to do more but I have time limitations and am not pleased about that.
Agree! There is one entity I can't express enough that has been as big a roadblock to the Right, as has been the Marxists, and that is the GOP itself.
Not only have they slowly allowed the left much needed wins on their part, but have actually helped move along the socialist agenda.
Though one can't really pick a moment when the stealing of the GOP took place, one can mark occasions when the party surged left, then held position for a time,, pretending/campaigning to the Right, only to do the opposite (McStain, both Bush's comes to mind, even Nixon on some levels). I wrote an article on that as well, I think, about Roger Ailes and his development of the RINO within the party and his behind the scenes manipulation and movement.
Reagan recognized the enemy within, and ran against it anyway, an enemy that held power in both party's would be hard to defeat, which is why so many of his speeches were prophetic in nature as warnings as to what could come, but despite the fact we were listening, the left continued its slow erosion of the GOP from within.
My point is, we are nearing the time when we purge the left within, that is when we can undo much of the damage already inflicted. Viewing the left in hindsight, they masterfully took over the nation and as stated in the Communist Papers 1963, they have nearly accomplished everything listed, and we even had a road map for the takeover.
Did we stop them? Nope, and even though we were voting in the best candidates offered, the GOP Establishment was picking our choices over the last 50 years, if not longer.
Anyway, the sooner we kill off the cancer in the GOP, the sooner we can begin to heal the Nation and it will heal a lot faster that it was infected.
Here is another article I wrote, though very dated, the point remains, we need to stop voting in the best of the worst the GOP offers.
https://newsblaze.com/thoughts/opinions/will-america-be-safe-with-bunch-of-rino-at-helm_23977/
Quote from: Solar on March 23, 2019, 05:38:07 AM
Agree! There is one entity I can't express enough that has been as big a roadblock to the Right, as has been the Marxists, and that is the GOP itself.
Not only have they slowly allowed the left much needed wins on their part, but have actually helped move along the socialist agenda.
Though one can't really pick a moment when the stealing of the GOP took place, one can mark occasions when the party surged left, then held position for a time,, pretending/campaigning to the Right, only to do the opposite (McStain, both Bush's comes to mind, even Nixon on some levels). I wrote an article on that as well, I think, about Roger Ailes and his development of the RINO within the party and his behind the scenes manipulation and movement.
Reagan recognized the enemy within, and ran against it anyway, an enemy that held power in both party's would be hard to defeat, which is why so many of his speeches were prophetic in nature as warnings as to what could come, but despite the fact we were listening, the left continued its slow erosion of the GOP from within.
My point is, we are nearing the time when we purge the left within, that is when we can undo much of the damage already inflicted. Viewing the left in hindsight, they masterfully took over the nation and as stated in the Communist Papers 1963, they have nearly accomplished everything listed, and we even had a road map for the takeover.
Did we stop them? Nope, and even though we were voting in the best candidates offered, the GOP Establishment was picking our choices over the last 50 years, if not longer.
Anyway, the sooner we kill off the cancer in the GOP, the sooner we can begin to heal the Nation and it will heal a lot faster that it was infected.
Here is another article I wrote, though very dated, the point remains, we need to stop voting in the best of the worst the GOP offers.
https://newsblaze.com/thoughts/opinions/will-america-be-safe-with-bunch-of-rino-at-helm_23977/
Agree with what you said, however I can pick a time when the country got saved and started turning around. Two items actually but at the same time, Trump was elected and hillary lost. Mmtwice , had hillary got elected, we might already be in that civil war you are talking about. I hear so many talk about how bad a candidate hillary was and it is true, but I do not hear how people were sick of that leftist obama and looked for a someone who loved this country. I do believe that had a lot to do with her defeat also.
Quote from: s3779m on March 23, 2019, 02:11:53 PM
Agree with what you said, however I can pick a time when the country got saved and started turning around. Two items actually but at the same time, Trump was elected and hillary lost. Mmtwice , had hillary got elected, we might already be in that civil war you are talking about. I hear so many talk about how bad a candidate hillary was and it is true, but I do not hear how people were sick of that leftist obama and looked for a someone who loved this country. I do believe that had a lot to do with her defeat also.
I was thinking of further in the past, but yeah, had she somehow stole the election, the country would be literally at war with the administration. I believe states would be looking to cede as others would be doubling down.
Quote from: Solar on March 23, 2019, 05:38:07 AM
Agree! There is one entity I can't express enough that has been as big a roadblock to the Right, as has been the Marxists, and that is the GOP itself.
Not only have they slowly allowed the left much needed wins on their part, but have actually helped move along the socialist agenda.
My point is, we are nearing the time when we purge the left within, that is when we can undo much of the damage already inflicted. Viewing the left in hindsight, they masterfully took over the nation and as stated in the Communist Papers 1963, they have nearly accomplished everything listed, and we even had a road map for the takeover.
Did we stop them? Nope, and even though we were voting in the best candidates offered, the GOP Establishment was picking our choices over the last 50 years, if not longer.
Anyway, the sooner we kill off the cancer in the GOP, the sooner we can begin to heal the Nation and it will heal a lot faster that it was infected.
I'm a skeptic. I don't believe we'll ever undo the damage that the Left has inflicted on this nation. I rather believe their damnable policies will continually get worse and worse until America is utterly destroyed. Us "lukewarm" Republicans obviously don't have what it takes to defeat them.
Quote from: fayec on July 22, 2019, 10:18:06 AM
I'm a skeptic. I don't believe we'll ever undo the damage that the Left has inflicted on this nation. I rather believe their damnable policies will continually get worse and worse until America is utterly destroyed. Us "lukewarm" Republicans obviously don't have what it takes to defeat them.
I'm more the optimist. But of course, you'll never kill off leftists, like nuclear waste, you can only bury it and hope it stays that way. But history has proven numerable times, civilizations come and go, and the corruption of a working culture via leftist failures/greed is always to blame.
Evil will always subsist as long as man exists.
Quote from: mmtwice on March 21, 2019, 12:06:02 AM
I would like to start a thread about this subject. I am a busy college student majoring in Accounting. Unfortunately, I find myself preoccupied with the political goings-on within our Great Nation. I started paying attention to D.C. in 1997. I was there in 2008 calling my Congressman at the time, Illinois' Dick Durbin, inquiring about his opinion on whether Obamacare was Constitutional. As a tea partier, I was relieved when our movement culminated in the election of Trump. However, I know Marxism. It has one goal. Now, after all this time, those who espouse this evil ideology are exposing themselves. Finally, the Communists are showing their dark colors, draped in a bitter lust for power over all Americans. Imagine a few things for the sake of this thread: 1. It is Nov, 2020 and DemoComs take control of all three branches, declare a national emergency, and establish groups to confiscate guns. Do you believe this WOULD NOT start a civil war? 2. The electoral college is destroyed, kids and illegals get to vote, and Republicanism is destroyed. After deeming Republicanism and conservatism a hate crime ideology, do you believe this WOULD NOT start a civil war? Everything I just mentioned is already on the agenda for the Communists in Democrat clothing. Do you not believe a war has already begun? If you reach the only viable conclusion possible, ask yourself if you are ready. I am.
As far as a second civil war, no. A second insirrection on government yes. Lets look at this with the following question in mind.
Is population control being implemented?
1) 1994 ( I believe was the year ) when elen did her on air coming out the entire speculation was well you can see it today guided as just wanting acceptance.
2) fast forward to today and they are teaching children all kinds of BS , don't think they need to be pointed out to someone that would be on this forum.
3) abortion was a forefront for exactly, reducing the number of unwanted births.
4) if they are able to start an actual insurrection then the dissenters would be front line and center to be the beginning of the mass depopulation.
If an insurrection is failed it would lead directly to a instant unarming of all citizens. Now that the people are unarmed they can dictate.
A) number of children you can have.
B) whether you are biologically capable of having children ( through either surgical or chemical infertility methods and use you biology as a way to justify it ).
C) whether you can carry to term do to anomalies in test results.
D) what job you are required to do.
List of possibilities are endless including your total lifespan before euthenization.
Or if an insurrection is successful then you end up with your rights back and stave off total control for another revolution.
Quote from: Dont need to know on October 02, 2019, 05:41:59 AM
As far as a second civil war, no. A second insirrection on government yes. Lets look at this with the following question in mind.
Is population control being implemented?
1) 1994 ( I believe was the year ) when elen did her on air coming out the entire speculation was well you can see it today guided as just wanting acceptance.
Long before that, Ellen was just propped up by the left as a poster child. Dating back to the 60s the so called "Gay community" was already forming, look up Harry Hayes.
The guy was a known communist who knew the best way to destroy American culture was to force Gays down the throats of the populace, only in tiny doses.
It worked. Ellen was a recipient of his efforts.
Quote2) fast forward to today and they are teaching children all kinds of BS , don't think they need to be pointed out to someone that would be on this forum.
3) abortion was a forefront for exactly, reducing the number of unwanted births.
True, but it was even more sinister than that. The left has always been racist, so those "Unwanted Births" were in truth, targeting Blacks specifically.
Look up Margaret Sanger. In fact, the left now gives out a yearly award called the Sanger Award, Fuglosi just got this years award. Sanger was a Eugenicist.
I'm well aware of the racist history of gun control, abortions, medication testing, water treatment testing, even testing of preprossesed food.
Sifilus being spread with no knowledge and not offering treatment. The list is astounding.
Quote from: Solar on October 02, 2019, 05:52:28 AM
Long before that, Ellen was just propped up by the left as a poster child. Dating back to the 60s the so called "Gay community" was already forming, look up Harry Hayes.
The guy was a known communist who knew the best way to destroy American culture was to force Gays down the throats of the populace, only in tiny doses.
It worked. Ellen was a recipient of his efforts.
True, but it was even more sinister than that. The left has always been racist, so those "Unwanted Births" were in truth, targeting Blacks specifically.
Look up Margaret Sanger. In fact, the left now gives out a yearly award called the Sanger Award, Fuglosi just got this years award. Sanger was a Eugenicist.
Also look at the fact that they have started a mass disarmerment in Florida. Which would be a stronghold for naval forces and a way to ship troops to a choke point or secure enough troops for an advancement on any group that would be between Texas and the east coast.
https://www.nbc-2.com/story/41088104/floridas-red-flag-law-has-taken-hundreds-of-guns-away-from-2000-people
Quote from: Dont need to know on October 04, 2019, 01:13:54 AM
Also look at the fact that they have started a mass disarmerment in Florida. Which would be a stronghold for naval forces and a way to ship troops to a choke point or secure enough troops for an advancement on any group that would be between Texas and the east coast.
https://www.nbc-2.com/story/41088104/floridas-red-flag-law-has-taken-hundreds-of-guns-away-from-2000-people
If you're going to post a link, at least post one with actual data. That was a poorly written article, never mentioned one single case as to why guns were confiscated.
Then compare that to the roughly billion guns in this country, and one can see this was nothing more than a leftist puff piece designed to rile the citizenry up.
In other words, even if you combined all the armies in the world, you still wouldn't be able to go against the American people.
Keep in mind, our military consists of mostly bright young patriots who would refuse to go against the constitution they swore an oath to protect. I took the oath which I still hold as my word to date nearly fifty years later.
Quote from: Solar on October 04, 2019, 05:22:21 AM
If you're going to post a link, at least post one with actual data. That was a poorly written article, never mentioned one single case as to why guns were confiscated.
Then compare that to the roughly billion guns in this country, and one can see this was nothing more than a leftist puff piece designed to rile the citizenry up.
In other words, even if you combined all the armies in the world, you still wouldn't be able to go against the American people.
Keep in mind, our military consists of mostly bright young patriots who would refuse to go against the constitution they swore an oath to protect. I took the oath which I still hold as my word to date nearly fifty years later.
Don't forget an estimated 10 of those guns are owned by liberals.
Quote from: s3779m on October 04, 2019, 03:02:52 PM
Don't forget an estimated 10 of those guns are owned by liberals.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Quote from: Solar on October 04, 2019, 05:22:21 AM
If you're going to post a link, at least post one with actual data. That was a poorly written article, never mentioned one single case as to why guns were confiscated.
Then compare that to the roughly billion guns in this country, and one can see this was nothing more than a leftist puff piece designed to rile the citizenry up.
In other words, even if you combined all the armies in the world, you still wouldn't be able to go against the American people.
Keep in mind, our military consists of mostly bright young patriots who would refuse to go against the constitution they swore an oath to protect. I took the oath which I still hold as my word to date nearly fifty years later.
I apologise I lost the article to the fox news post. Wasn't able to find any Intel on actual releases from florida state statistics before i left town and I can't even load this page without a 30 second pause when I have service.
Quote from: Dont need to know on October 04, 2019, 03:29:31 PM
I apologise I lost the article to the fox news post. Wasn't able to find any Intel on actual releases from florida state statistics before i left town and I can't even load this page without a 30 second pause when I have service.
You should have WiFi from 90 miles away. You would love your 30 second pause in loading.
Quote from: walkstall on October 04, 2019, 04:07:41 PM
You should have WiFi from 90 miles away. You would love your 30 second pause in loading.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
You really should consider satellite. :biggrin:
Quote from: walkstall on October 04, 2019, 04:07:41 PM
You should have WiFi from 90 miles away. You would love your 30 second pause in loading.
You try that in west Texas oil field country. Still would rather love the dust than the fuss of traffic. But the ISP.actually is registered almost 600 miles away in Tyler. I've already done the ISP.check.
Quote from: Solar on October 04, 2019, 06:21:57 PM
:lol: :lol: :lol:
You really should consider satellite. :biggrin:
But my WiFi is free. LOL And at my age I don't think that fast. :lol:
This sort of nonsense is un-American, we are a republic and not afraid of change and progress. Pres Trump is a con-artist and crook, read a biography of him sometime. See links at bottom. Instead of listening to his rhetorical nonsense consider that he has not kept a single election promise. And consider too that democrats took over the House because Americans voted for them. Americans, not Russians or Saudis or North Koreans, countries and leaders Trump appears to admire. The sky is always falling for some, but reality is quite a bit different and it is time conservative Americans realized this administration is a threat to our democratic and law abiding way of life.
http://lithub.com/rebecca-solnit-the-loneliness-of-donald-trump/
Trump and family: http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/30724304-the-making-of-donald-trump
And the history of reactionary thought, change has always happened and it will continue.
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/154643.The_Rhetoric_of_Reaction
Quote from: midcan5 on October 05, 2019, 03:47:46 AM
This sort of nonsense is un-American, we are a republic and not afraid of change and progress. Pres Trump is a con-artist and crook, read a biography of him sometime. See links at bottom. Instead of listening to his rhetorical nonsense consider that he has not kept a single election promise. And consider too that democrats took over the House because Americans voted for them. Americans, not Russians or Saudis or North Koreans, countries and leaders Trump appears to admire. The sky is always falling for some, but reality is quite a bit different and it is time conservative Americans realized this administration is a threat to our democratic and law abiding way of life.
http://lithub.com/rebecca-solnit-the-loneliness-of-donald-trump/
Trump and family: http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/30724304-the-making-of-donald-trump
And the history of reactionary thought, change has always happened and it will continue.
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/154643.The_Rhetoric_of_Reaction
I thought liberals where warned of a trigger warning.
Trump admires very few people. Kim, Putin and Saudis probably isnt one of them. They have oil, and minerals.
He's been working very diligently on his campaign promises. Unfortunately he hasn't locked her up yet.
I'm not one of these blind followers that thinks he's an idol of American values. He is however doing his best to uphold the constitution.
You think I'm going to vote for a democrat that wants to "take those ar15s and ak47s" aware from law abided citizens or "register" them then you are nuts.
We have a republican government. Most households as far as "extras-meaning not ecensials ( bills , food , travel to and from work ) are either a democratic, socialist or dictatorship. Guessing you would be under the more communist end of the spectrum << that's your cue to trigger.
This is why there is a post about the 2nd civil war I'm assuming. And we all know what happens when you assume.
The piece below covers a phenom I find hard to fathom having grown up in a family that was poor white trash, but we never knew that and we somehow, often through military service, eventually succeeded in life. It is related to the thread and my comment above.
'From the Unabomber to the Incels: Angry Young Men on Campus'
https://lithub.com/from-the-unabomber-to-the-incels-angry-young-men-on-campus/
Quote from: midcan5 on October 05, 2019, 03:47:46 AM
This sort of nonsense is un-American, we are a republic and not afraid of change and progress. Pres Trump is a con-artist and crook, read a biography of him sometime. See links at bottom. Instead of listening to his rhetorical nonsense consider that he has not kept a single election promise. And consider too that democrats took over the House because Americans voted for them. Americans, not Russians or Saudis or North Koreans, countries and leaders Trump appears to admire. The sky is always falling for some, but reality is quite a bit different and it is time conservative Americans realized this administration is a threat to our democratic and law abiding way of life.
http://lithub.com/rebecca-solnit-the-loneliness-of-donald-trump/
Trump and family: http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/30724304-the-making-of-donald-trump
And the history of reactionary thought, change has always happened and it will continue.
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/154643.The_Rhetoric_of_Reaction
Correction: Trump has not broken a single promise, but you knew that when you lied.
I know you don't know this because you don't want to know the truth, but the Dims won the house because the Right refused to support the RINO already seated and up for reelection.
Do some research, all those Congress critters walked away from a cushy job, but why would they do that? Because they knew TEA was never going to support them, so instead of humiliation at the ballot box, they took their reelection treasure chest and ran away.
No, the Dims only won because the other team didn't show up. The House is on very fragile ground and will most likely flip because of all the bone headed moves the Dim party is making, that, and the TEA side is going to be supporting candidates that support Trump.
Do you have any clue how many libs have #walkedaway from the Dim party? You will soon enough. :biggrin:
Honestly, did you really know none of this?
Quote from: Solar on October 05, 2019, 05:36:22 AM
Correction: Trump has not broken a single promise, but you knew that when you lied.
I know you don't know this because you don't want to know the truth, but the Dims won the house because the Right refused to support the RINO already seated and up for reelection.
Do some research, all those Congress critters walked away from a cushy job, but why would they do that? Because they knew TEA was never going to support them, so instead of humiliation at the ballot box, they took their reelection treasure chest and ran away.
No, the Dims only won because the other team didn't show up. The House is on very fragile ground and will most likely flip because of all the bone headed moves the Dim party is making, that, and the TEA side is going to be supporting candidates that support Trump.
Do you have any clue how many libs have #walkedaway from the Dim party? You will soon enough. :biggrin:
Honestly, did you really know none of this?
Doesn't go with "feelings".
Quote from: s3779m on October 05, 2019, 07:18:57 AM
Doesn't go with "feelings".
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
That's it in a nutshell. They
HATE Trump so much, they fail to see what's really taking place.
An Americn civil war would be decided by what happens to the American military. If it remains united and obedient to its commanding officers, it would quickly crush any armed civilian group. If not, then the outcome of a civil war would be determined by which side received the allegiance of its majority, unlesss the surrounding social disintegration was so great that the military just fell apart.
At the moment, the officer corps' allegiance is to the existing government, and will continue to be so so long as that government has democratic legitimacy. A government with contested legitimacy, or two rival woul-=be governments --a dual-power situation -- would be another matter.
Constttutionalists/patriots must not be suckered into a position in which they are seen by the majority of Americans as challenging a government with democratic legitimacy, no matter how much they are provoked. We cannot win -- in any sense of that term -- without first having the support (active or passive) and/or neutrality of the majority of the American people.
This requires patience, and 'fire discipline'.
In the meantime, every patriot should, if under the age of 36, join the National Guard, if he or she is not already a veteran or on active dury. The possibility of enlisting in the State Guard, if your state has one, should also be explored. If there is a volunteer civilian police support group, and/or an Emergency Response group, you should be in that. Finally, every patriot should be in the local militia, assuming it's a legitimate and sensible one.
Beware of provocateurs. Our watchwords must be 'legal, peaceful, and orderly'. The other side will move heaven and earth to demonize patriots as terrorists, crazies, racists, white supremacists. They are utterly unscrupulous, and will seek to create evidence for these slanders. We must not fall for their provocations.
I just saw this post. I share your concerns, and even created a thread titled, "DO WE need to worry about our military in a Revolution?" in this forum. I will not copy the post here, because I do not want to split any discussion between two threads.
This is why I worry about the left trying to take away our second amendment rights. When Beto gets on stage and says he will take our guns, I shiver at the thought of a leftist controlled military sent out to execute their whims. I will say this, if the left thinks they can execute their faschist speech policies and socialist theft, there will be a problem.
Many Generals and Colonels have weighed in and said they would never allow guns to be leveled on US Citizens. I can vouch for many soldiers I have talked to, that say the same. And, allies who are less than thrilled with the Gooberment, would likely send aid.
Plus, do the math. 1.5 million active duty. 1.5 million Reserves.
63 million pissed off Americans and most have guns, and the ones that don't, the ones that do, will provide.
The British Army thought it would ride roughshod over the colonists. It didn't happen.
Next!
No one can predict the future. Events will shape everything, and we cannot predict them. All we can do is be prepared.
All young (under 36) conservatives who have not yet done military service should enlist in the National Guard. Everyone should join a local militia (go to MyMilitia.com to find one).
And we should think about the possibility -- which I believe is very real -- that we will soon find ourself in a permanent national minority, with an increasingly-radical Democratic Party taking over both branches of Congress and the Executive.
In that case, there is just one alternative -- even a successfully-fought civil war would put us in the position of being a minority-in-power. There is an alternative, but at the moment most people would find it too radical to entertain.
Those interested in this subject need to Google on FH Buckley, and look at his most recent books.
Quote from: Doug1943 on January 02, 2020, 11:49:42 AM
No one can predict the future. Events will shape everything, and we cannot predict them. All we can do is be prepared.
All young (under 36) conservatives who have not yet done military service should enlist in the National Guard. Everyone should join a local militia (go to MyMilitia.com to find one).
And we should think about the possibility -- which I believe is very real -- that we will soon find ourself in a permanent national minority, with an increasingly-radical Democratic Party taking over both branches of Congress and the Executive.
In that case, there is just one alternative -- even a successfully-fought civil war would put us in the position of being a minority-in-power. There is an alternative, but at the moment most people would find it too radical to entertain.
Those interested in this subject need to Google on FH Buckley, and look at his most recent books.
Just out of curiosity, who will we be preparing for? The democrat party is more likely to have a civil war within their own ranks and members than to declare war on the conservatives.
"Just out of curiosity, who will we be preparing for? The democrat party is more likely to have a civil war within their own ranks and members than to declare war on the conservatives. "
The times we are living in put great stresses on all societies. Immigration, inequality, a big depression, a military humiliation as we slide into second place in the world, continued decay of the culture -- all of these issues will impact the US. The key fact is the steady growth of the progressive mindset among the younger generations. Many conservatives like to fool themselves and believe that this will all be reversed. And it may be ... I hope it is.
But I think we're seeing a profound shift in values -- a large proportion of our population, especially among the young, no longer love their country. This means we've lost the social glue that holds its various tribes together.
Of course these stresses are felt within the political parties -- both of them. But the Democrats will soon be in the hands of the hard Left. The may well command a national majority -- both houses of Congress and the executive. They will do things to make this permanent: give the DACAs the vote, make Puerto Rico and Washington DC into states, thus getting an extra 4 senators, making your driver's license your voter registration card and possibly fining those who don't vote -- which will benefit them more than us.
It may well be that the great majority of people calling themselves conservative will just accept this.
But it's not impossible that some dramatic event could occur, perhaps as the culmination of a series of such events ... an attempt by the government (controlled by the Democrats, in turn controlled by the Hard Left) to seize guns might be an example ... that would spark widespread resistance moving over into armed conflict.
It's impossible to predict the future. But it's wrong to think the US is somehow magically exempt from the laws of history and if you look at other coutnries -- including European ones -- you see that civil war, or some other violent wrenching of the social/political order, has actually been rather common in the past 150 years.
A good book to read is John Merriman's The Massacre, about the Paris Commune of 1871. And the contemporary author FH Buckley has just come out with a book exploring the possiblities of civil war in the US, although I have not read it yet.
Quote from: Doug1943 on January 02, 2020, 04:06:08 PM
"Just out of curiosity, who will we be preparing for? The democrat party is more likely to have a civil war within their own ranks and members than to declare war on the conservatives. "
And this is a bad thing, why?
QuoteThe times we are living in put great stresses on all societies. Immigration, inequality, a big depression, a military humiliation as we slide into second place in the world,
WTF Aare you talking about?
Trump is ending illegal immigration and sending them many of them back as I type. What inequality are you talking about? Everyone in this country lives under the same Constitution as everyone else.
The Depression ended when Trump took office.
"a military humiliation as we slide into second place in the world" Again, WTF are you yammering on about now?
Quotecontinued decay of the culture -- all of these issues will impact the US. The key fact is the steady growth of the progressive mindset among the younger generations. Many conservatives like to fool themselves and believe that this will all be reversed. And it may be ... I hope it is.
Reversed? Possibly, but a job and less govt handouts tend to wake kids up when the real world hits them. You don't have to reverse anything, maturity tends to do this all by itself.
QuoteBut I think we're seeing a profound shift in values -- a large proportion of our population, especially among the young, no longer love their country. This means we've lost the social glue that holds its various tribes together.
Why are you under the illusion this is somehow a fixed position? Many kids grow up knowing absolutely nothing about the world around them, sometimes little beyond moms basement, but as some point they'll have to meet the real world and get a job, start paying taxes, even get a mortgage. You still think they're going to hate this country forever?
QuoteOf course these stresses are felt within the political parties -- both of them. But the Democrats will soon be in the hands of the hard Left. The may well command a national majority -- both houses of Congress and the executive. They will do things to make this permanent: give the DACAs the vote, make Puerto Rico and Washington DC into states, thus getting an extra 4 senators, making your driver's license your voter registration card and possibly fining those who don't vote -- which will benefit them more than us.
I'll just be succinct. The Dim party is dead, they committed suicide.
QuoteIt may well be that the great majority of people calling themselves conservative will just accept this.
So now you're telling us how we think as well? Remember TEA and how we kneecapped the Dim party of gaining new blood, or how we've driven more than 50 RINO into retirement, have McCON-nel walking on eggshells because Trump has put the party on notice?
Something tells me you don't pay much attention to what's actually happening and spend mot of your time at conspiracy sites hoping for a civil war.
QuoteBut it's not impossible that some dramatic event could occur, perhaps as the culmination of a series of such events ... an attempt by the government (controlled by the Democrats, in turn controlled by the Hard Left) to seize guns might be an example ... that would spark widespread resistance moving over into armed conflict.
Og Jeeeezus, there are more guns in the hands of the American citizen than our entire military force combined. No one is coming to take anyone's guns away, unless they want to die.
QuoteIt's impossible to predict the future. But it's wrong to think the US is somehow magically exempt from the laws of history and if you look at other coutnries -- including European ones -- you see that civil war, or some other violent wrenching of the social/political order, has actually been rather common in the past 150 years.
Gee, and how old are we?
A good book to read is John Merriman's
The Massacre, about the Paris Commune of 1871. And the contemporary author FH Buckley has just come out with a book exploring the possiblities of civil war in the US, although I have not read it yet.
Then how do you know they're any good? Why are you comparing us to the French and the rise of communism? I see absolutely no connection whatsoever.