The elections are over. Let the wars begin...

Started by Travis Bickle, November 08, 2012, 08:59:31 AM

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a777pilot

Well, you could be on to something.  With The Fool, Bobo, the Post Turtle, back in the White House, I would opine that Israel has absolutely nothing to lose by attacking Iran, now.  The longer they wait the stronger Iran will be.
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Solar

Like Israel, we all just rightly assumed the country hated socialism and would send the Marxist packing.
But now, it's a very different game, Israel knows it's on it's own and Iran will discover what it means when you throw gas and lit matches at an uncaged lion.

For the last half century Israel has been restrained behind US bars with the most powerful Military in the M/E, the reelection of  Husein sent a message to Israel that they are on heir own.
If I was in Israel, that would be the message I was getting, that the leftists would abandon us and even possibly side with my enemies.

If that was you, how would you react?

Iran would be glass....
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Sci Fi Fan

Quote from: Solar on November 11, 2012, 05:16:21 AM
Like Israel, we all just rightly assumed the country hated socialism and would send the Marxist packing.

I trust you'll never value "rightly assumed" over mathematical analysis ever again.

What good are elections if you threaten war every time one doesn't go your way?  Is this the "democracy" you value? 

For Liberty

Quote from: Sci Fi Fan on November 11, 2012, 06:56:35 AM
I trust you'll never value "rightly assumed" over mathematical analysis ever again.

What good are elections if you threaten war every time one doesn't go your way?  Is this the "democracy" you value?

We arent a democracy... constitutional republic

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Quote from: For Liberty on November 11, 2012, 07:06:00 AM
We arent a democracy... constitutional republic

Yes, but we're trending towards democracy at a rapid rate.

For Liberty

Quote from: Sci Fi Fan on November 11, 2012, 07:23:22 AM
Yes, but we're trending towards democracy at a rapid rate.

Because compromise is what everyone tries to do. The constitution is what we should be compromising with instead of these politician's great ideas.

Solar

Quote from: Sci Fi Fan on November 11, 2012, 06:56:35 AM
I trust you'll never value "rightly assumed" over mathematical analysis ever again.

What good are elections if you threaten war every time one doesn't go your way?  Is this the "democracy" you value?
And you wonder why we call you stupid?
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Quote from: Solar on November 11, 2012, 08:26:37 AM
And you wonder why we call you stupid?

Hey: I got the election right, and you got it wrong.  I also called '04 for Bush, so it clearly isn't me blindly pulling for Obama and turning out to be right.

Clearly, I can do math better than you can.  If you can't predict something as simple as an election, what makes you think you can unveil highly sophisticated conspiracies, forecast economic conditions and judge the highly complex science of climatology? 

a777pilot

Well SFF, I got it right too.  I said that if this Fool, Bobo, the Post Turtle, was re-elected it would be due to massive election fraud.  I was right.
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Sci Fi Fan

Quote from: a777pilot on November 11, 2012, 09:21:31 AM
Well SFF, I got it right too.  I said that if this Fool, Bobo, the Post Turtle, was re-elected it would be due to massive election fraud.  I was right.

That's a pretty safe prediction.  If Romney wins, you can throw in the Left's face.  If Obama wins, you can immediately cry "fraud!", and absolve yourself of responsibility.

a777pilot

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valjean

Quote from: Solar on November 11, 2012, 05:16:21 AM


For the last half century Israel has been restrained behind US bars with the most powerful Military in the M/E,

The opposite is true. The U.S. is the only reason Israel gets away with what it gets away with. If Israel didn't have U.S. foreign policy muscle protecting it, Israel would have disappeared a long time ago. There is a reason it is political suicide for a U.S. Senator, Congressman, President, or someone running for one of these offices to speak out against Israel; the Israel lobby has both major parties under their thumb, and as long as they maintain this influence we will never have peace because we will be constantly involved in the affairs of other countries of the middle east making new enemies in every generation.

If we want the wars to be over, and want to have peace, we need to simply leave the region alone, if they want to fight among themselves, shame on them, but so be it, at least we won't have to get our hands dirty.

a777pilot

Quote from: valjean on November 14, 2012, 09:36:56 PM
The opposite is true. The U.S. is the only reason Israel gets away with what it gets away with. If Israel didn't have U.S. foreign policy muscle protecting it, Israel would have disappeared a long time ago. There is a reason it is political suicide for a U.S. Senator, Congressman, President, or someone running for one of these offices to speak out against Israel; the Israel lobby has both major parties under their thumb, and as long as they maintain this influence we will never have peace because we will be constantly involved in the affairs of other countries of the middle east making new enemies in every generation.

If this were true then how did  Bobo, the Post Turtle, get re-elected?
If we want the wars to be over, and want to have peace, we need to simply leave the region alone, if they want to fight among themselves, shame on them, but so be it, at least we won't have to get our hands dirty.
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keyboarder

Quote from: Sci Fi Fan on November 11, 2012, 09:27:44 AM
That's a pretty safe prediction.  If Romney wins, you can throw in the Left's face.  If Obama wins, you can immediately cry "fraud!", and absolve yourself of responsibility.

Safe prediction?  Really?  Why would he allege this?  I kept up with the race for president as well as anyone and I can say that the numbers didn't add up for me in the face of all that was happening in the states and as much as I could glean from our wonderful bought-by-WH news stations/media sources.   I can't dismiss all that I DID see and the voters were turning out at appearances by Romney that far outweighed those that turned out for Obama events.  All of this just got turned around to look like what it wasn't.  The worst thing about the whole election was the ballots that weren't counted because of what?......I'd like to call that for what it is but it will do no good at this point.  These ballots were no less important  than the so-called disenfranchised ones here in SC.  These discounted votes should have been in the first counted, since these are ones of servicemen who guard our country, keep us a relatively safe nation where we can vote.   This is not the first time this has happened either and it is ever so much as disgraceful as any of the other times it has happened.  I am ashamed to call Obama the president of the US.  Before Obama's stolen term is over, you will be ashamed of him too, and that's a prediction you can haul right on to your bank unless he does an about face on his miserable policies.
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