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Re: Putin proposes real anti-ISIS coalition
« Reply #60 on: December 07, 2015, 03:49:47 AM »
Looks like ISIS has air force after all...
http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/reports-isis-attacks-ayash-base-following-us-led-airstrikes/
"...Following the US-led airstrikes on Ayash military base in Deir ez-Ezzor, it has been confirmed that 1 Syrian Arab Army soldier has been killed with reports circulating that as many as 4 were killed, 13 wounded and 2 tanks destroyed.
It has been confirmed that ISIS immediately attacked Ayash military base immediately following the airstrikes..."

Interesting development.  But ISIS doesn't have an air 'force' quite yet.  There are rumors of pilots being trained.

I can't comment on your President's priorities because our priorities appear to allow time for ISIS to form an air-and-drone fighting-force... in Libya, most-likely. 

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Re: Putin proposes real anti-ISIS coalition
« Reply #61 on: December 11, 2015, 06:17:00 AM »
BINGO!!! Milos...
Nature abhors a vacuum. The US victory/fix played the part of dictator, but only as surrogate till someone filled the void.
It's what these people know, it's what their culture is based on, submission to another, it's why pedophilia is an accepted abhorrence, they are groomed as children to believe they should always submit to the stronger male, that they must do as they are told.

It's textbook Stockholm syndrome in a cultural catastrophe, and the M/E is the testube.
There is no winning the hearts and minds of these people.
Ask any cop what is the worst call to get during a regular shift, and they'll tell you domestic dispute, where the woman called 911 on her abusive husband, only to wind up being attacked by the complainant for handcuffing her assailant.
The M/E being no different.

Yes.

I believe most of Iraqis were supporting Saddam Hussein, or at least they were fine with him, for the reasons you mentioned, they needed a strong manly figure to rule over them. Saddam was an American ally during the 1980s, when he waged a war against Iran, I don't know how he became an enemy during the 1990s. But, with removing Saddam, only a vacuum has left. There was no one to replace him. And the American troops maintaining the order forever at the expense of the American taxpayers and losing their lives doesn't seem as a proper long-term solution. Iraqis, left on themselves, will just surrender to the Islamic State, and after all, they are not that much different anyway, those from the Islamic State are some Iraqis, too. Only to establish a new dictator, I can't see any other solution.

The same was in Libya with Gaddafi. And the same is now in Syria. If Assad goes, who shall replace him? The country will be left to the Islamic State if left without a strong manly figure to rule. Russia must support Assad, because Russia is protecting herself in Syria. If Assad fails, and the Islamic State takes the control over Syria, then it will move to the Caucasus region very soon, directly threatening Russia. And we have already seen Muslim terrorists taking Russian school children as hostages in Chechnya, or taking the people in Moscow theater as hostages. But the Islamic State would be much, much worse than that.
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Re: Putin proposes real anti-ISIS coalition
« Reply #62 on: December 17, 2015, 12:00:51 AM »

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Re: Putin proposes real anti-ISIS coalition
« Reply #63 on: December 23, 2015, 04:03:56 AM »
Yes.

I believe most of Iraqis were supporting Saddam Hussein, or at least they were fine with him, for the reasons you mentioned, they needed a strong manly figure to rule over them. Saddam was an American ally during the 1980s, when he waged a war against Iran, I don't know how he became an enemy during the 1990s. But, with removing Saddam, only a vacuum has left. There was no one to replace him. And the American troops maintaining the order forever at the expense of the American taxpayers and losing their lives doesn't seem as a proper long-term solution. Iraqis, left on themselves, will just surrender to the Islamic State, and after all, they are not that much different anyway, those from the Islamic State are some Iraqis, too. Only to establish a new dictator, I can't see any other solution.

The same was in Libya with Gaddafi. And the same is now in Syria. If Assad goes, who shall replace him? The country will be left to the Islamic State if left without a strong manly figure to rule. Russia must support Assad, because Russia is protecting herself in Syria. If Assad fails, and the Islamic State takes the control over Syria, then it will move to the Caucasus region very soon, directly threatening Russia. And we have already seen Muslim terrorists taking Russian school children as hostages in Chechnya, or taking the people in Moscow theater as hostages. But the Islamic State would be much, much worse than that.

Assad is not unbeatable, ISIS was created because of a "strongman" like Assad and the more Assad wages genocide agains the Sunni's the stronger ISIS will become. Gaddafi would based on what is happening in Syria have fallen himself as the West just used his weakness as an opportunity for a quick successful war to get distraction from domestic issues. To think that the Middle East is in turmoil because of foreign intervention or even vacuum is dismissing all ethnic, religious and political-regional tensions that is bound to take place with so many opposing factors.

 

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