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Putin proposes real anti-ISIS coalition
« on: August 13, 2015, 10:33:38 AM »
http://www.sott.net/article/300004-Lavrov-Putin-proposes-real-anti-ISIS-coalition-of-Syrian-Iraqi-Kurdish-troops

Russian officials are right, double standarts that our government praise don’t work anymore. After the US defeating of Saddam terrorists gained power in Iraq, after the casting down of Gaddafi terrorists raised their flags above Northern Africa.
I guess soon ISIS would be eliminated by Russian forces and their allies. And finally we’d say goodbye to Middle Eastern mess-up.

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Re: Putin proposes real anti-ISIS coalition
« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2015, 10:43:30 AM »
Dream on.  Russia fought the crazies in Afghanistan for 10 years and lost.
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Re: Putin proposes real anti-ISIS coalition
« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2015, 10:48:28 AM »
http://www.sott.net/article/300004-Lavrov-Putin-proposes-real-anti-ISIS-coalition-of-Syrian-Iraqi-Kurdish-troops

Russian officials are right, double standarts that our government praise don’t work anymore. After the US defeating of Saddam terrorists gained power in Iraq, after the casting down of Gaddafi terrorists raised their flags above Northern Africa.
I guess soon ISIS would be eliminated by Russian forces and their allies. And finally we’d say goodbye to Middle Eastern mess-up.

You don't get out much do you.    :lol:
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Re: Putin proposes real anti-ISIS coalition
« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2015, 03:49:39 AM »
Dream on.
We'll wait and see.
Russia fought the crazies in Afghanistan for 10 years and lost.
It was the USSR.

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Re: Putin proposes real anti-ISIS coalition
« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2015, 07:42:31 AM »
Israel is in the process of coalition building, even talking with some American politicians who will comprise the post Obama era. I would not rule out Soviet participation. There is a lot of money and power riding on this, and the US Congress is apparently weary of it all.

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Re: Putin proposes real anti-ISIS coalition
« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2015, 08:17:57 AM »
We'll wait and see.It was the USSR.


 :lol:  And you think Mr. KGB Putin is any different? 

Wow Blacky, get your head out of the sand and learn a little history.  Putin is still mad about what happened to the old USSR and hates us for it.

OPEN YOUR EYES   
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Re: Putin proposes real anti-ISIS coalition
« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2015, 02:12:02 PM »

 :lol:  And you think Mr. KGB Putin is any different? 

Wow Blacky, get your head out of the sand and learn a little history.  Putin is still mad about what happened to the old USSR and hates us for it.

OPEN YOUR EYES

This must be some of that new history their rewriting, that he is talking about.  The new USSR 101.
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Re: Putin proposes real anti-ISIS coalition
« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2015, 02:34:41 PM »
I am beginning to wonder about Putin. If he is as smart as we think he is he knows the US is not a threat as long as he behaves. His real enemy is radical Islam and his own people if he totally allows the economy to collapse. Could he becoming paranoid about "putting the band back together"?
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Re: Putin proposes real anti-ISIS coalition
« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2015, 04:28:23 PM »
I am beginning to wonder about Putin. If he is as smart as we think he is he knows the US is not a threat as long as he behaves. His real enemy is radical Islam and his own people if he totally allows the economy to collapse. Could he becoming paranoid about "putting the band back together"?

Putin's not afraid of us.  Especially with wimp-o in office.  He loves pulling Obama's chain every chance he gets, and makes him look like a fool. Gen. Odierno just retired.  On the news this morning he said our biggest threat is Russia, as have many other generals.

As to Russia being enemies with Islamists, Russia is in bed and allied with them.  Who's supplying Iran with all their nuclear material and building their sites?  Who just signed contracts for military weapons and aircraft? 

Go back in history.  The Islamists supported Russia during the cold war.  Russia was behind the 6 day war with Israel.  How many Islamic Generals and military leaders were trained in Russia? 

 al-Zawahiri, the mastermind of 9/11, was trained by the former KGB Russian service. 

We are still in a cold war with Russia through proxies and the Islamists are part of that.
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Re: Putin proposes real anti-ISIS coalition
« Reply #9 on: August 15, 2015, 01:30:28 AM »
Dream on.  Russia fought the crazies in Afghanistan for 10 years and lost.
I don't think so... Soviet army left Afghanistan in good order, leaving well established afgani government.  It lasted for 3 years.  Compare it with situation in Irak.  And to add - USSR did have in Afghanistan opposition of USA and the rest of the West an East. USA didn't have such an opposition in Irak. But results even worse.

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Re: Putin proposes real anti-ISIS coalition
« Reply #10 on: August 15, 2015, 07:48:32 AM »
I don't think so... Soviet army left Afghanistan in good order, leaving well established afgani government.  It lasted for 3 years.  Compare it with situation in Irak.  And to add - USSR did have in Afghanistan opposition of USA and the rest of the West an East. USA didn't have such an opposition in Irak. But results even worse.

It contributed to the downfall of the USSR.  It was called the "Bear Trap".

Iraq could have been a success had we stayed until they got their government worked out.  Thanks to Obama for pulling our troops out, it's become the home to ISIS and Iran controlling Baghdad.   
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Re: Putin proposes real anti-ISIS coalition
« Reply #11 on: September 16, 2015, 11:59:08 PM »
Here is an interesting article.

What is Russia REALLY doing in Syria?

Peter Mellows — September 16, 2015

Retired Russian military analyst ‘The Saker’ runs the excellent ‘Vineyard of the Saker’ blog. He is fiercely pro-Russian and pro-Syrian, but from the very beginning of the story about Russia being supposedly about to go to war on ISIS, he has urged caution and said that President Putin will not do so, because the Russian people don’t want to go back to the foreign policy ‘adventures’ of the old USSR. Here is his latest ‘take’ on the whole affair:

https://www.knightstemplarinternational.com/what-is-russia-really-doing-in-syria/
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Re: Putin proposes real anti-ISIS coalition
« Reply #12 on: September 17, 2015, 04:54:13 AM »
Here is an interesting article.

What is Russia REALLY doing in Syria?

Peter Mellows — September 16, 2015

Retired Russian military analyst ‘The Saker’ runs the excellent ‘Vineyard of the Saker’ blog. He is fiercely pro-Russian and pro-Syrian, but from the very beginning of the story about Russia being supposedly about to go to war on ISIS, he has urged caution and said that President Putin will not do so, because the Russian people don’t want to go back to the foreign policy ‘adventures’ of the old USSR. Here is his latest ‘take’ on the whole affair:

https://www.knightstemplarinternational.com/what-is-russia-really-doing-in-syria/

Unlike Obama, Putin understands radical Islam and the need to defeat it. He has figured out it is OK to prop up a dictator if that dictator has no interest in exporting his terror. We in the USA need to accept that these people are not interested in democracy and freedom. Ee have created many of our own problems by trying to "help" these people.
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Re: Putin proposes real anti-ISIS coalition
« Reply #14 on: September 25, 2015, 02:05:21 AM »
Unlike Obama, Putin understands radical Islam and the need to defeat it. He has figured out it is OK to prop up a dictator if that dictator has no interest in exporting his terror. We in the USA need to accept that these people are not interested in democracy and freedom. Ee have created many of our own problems by trying to "help" these people.

The thing is that everyone looks at others from their own perspective. There are different kinds of peoples in this world with different needs. Some want to have personal freedom, some want to have dictatorship. It is a matter of tradition, of culture, of religion, of genetics, etc. And they shouldn't impose their own perspective on others.
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