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Pentagon's new medal
« on: February 28, 2013, 01:21:09 PM »
 :ohmy:   A medal I have no problem with.  But not above the Bronze Star and the Purple Heart.  Next will be a medal for sitting in a office state side.

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WASHINGTON — The military's new medal for cyber warriors should get a demotion, according to veterans groups and lawmakers who say it shouldn't outrank such revered honors as the Bronze Star and the Purple Heart.

The Distinguished Warfare Medal, announced by the Defense Department two weeks ago, is a sign of the changing nature of war, in which attacks conducted remotely have played an increasingly important role in gathering intelligence and killing enemy fighters and terrorists. It will recognize extraordinary achievement related to a military operation occurring after Sept. 11, 2001.

But the Veterans of Foreign War and other groups say that ranking it ahead of the Bronze Star and Purple Heart is an injustice to those who served on the front-lines.



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Re: Pentagon's new medal
« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2013, 11:39:50 AM »
NO non combat decoration should rank ahead of a combat decoration, with the possible exception of a decoration awarded for actual risk of life and limb (Navy and Marine Corps Medal, for example).
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Re: Pentagon's new medal
« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2013, 11:46:04 AM »
NO non combat decoration should rank ahead of a combat decoration, with the possible exception of a decoration awarded for actual risk of life and limb (Navy and Marine Corps Medal, for example).
Absolutely agree! It, if anything should be a simple ribbon, nothing more, nothing less, much like the Vietnam campaign ribbon I received when I was stationed in Korea.
Granted I was in during Nam, but I was not there, and these guys are in the same arena as I was, they are not on the battle front, they are not in harms way in the least.
It's like awarding medals to the guy who makes the drones that do the actual killing.
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Re: Pentagon's new medal
« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2013, 07:14:38 AM »
Just further decline into recognition of mediocrity!

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Re: Pentagon's new medal
« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2013, 03:27:14 PM »
It's like giving schoolchildren certificates for "participation." Next we'll be handing out awards for breathing. Excellence is a thing not properly revered any more.
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Re: Pentagon's new medal
« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2013, 11:25:25 AM »
I kinda disagree... programmers don't risk their lives, but if cyber war is as important for nat'l sec. as media are saying it is, the purple heart isn't necessarily as good....  A good programmer is hard to find.

I believe the DSM is awarded to staff/desk officers sometimes.  There are some medals awarded to people in uniform who are in no danger at all, like the guy serving in Korea given the Vietnam medal...  The US has too many medals, period.  Purple heart, bronze star, programmer's medal ALL deserve respect.

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Re: Pentagon's new medal
« Reply #6 on: May 07, 2013, 05:07:13 PM »
I think to be rewarded for a job well done is great but not one above a combat medal.  These guys are risking their lives not missing their favorite TV show.
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Re: Pentagon's new medal
« Reply #7 on: July 08, 2013, 09:25:19 AM »
NO non combat decoration should rank ahead of a combat decoration, with the possible exception of a decoration awarded for actual risk of life and limb (Navy and Marine Corps Medal, for example).

I couldn't disagree more.

As a member of MEDDAC I was non-combat, as are all medics technically, as was the case with me personally, being that MOS is a non-combat MOS, you are not eligible to receive certain combat awards.

Yet how often do we not only find them individually right out there in the front lines getting shot to hell with the rest of em.

But entire Mash units on the front lines as well getting shelled?

It happens more often than one might think.

Of course what I describe is also different than sitting back state side typing on a computer keyboard too though.



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Re: Pentagon's new medal
« Reply #8 on: July 08, 2013, 03:05:40 PM »
I couldn't disagree more.

As a member of MEDDAC I was non-combat, as are all medics technically, as was the case with me personally, being that MOS is a non-combat MOS, you are not eligible to receive certain combat awards.

Yet how often do we not only find them individually right out there in the front lines getting shot to hell with the rest of em.

But entire Mash units on the front lines as well getting shelled?

It happens more often than one might think.

Of course what I describe is also different than sitting back state side typing on a computer keyboard too though.

You make an excellent point. I think most folks would consider what you did as combat. Unfortunately, some bureaucrat in Washington decided you were not. Just anothe reason to get rid of a bunch of bureaucrats.
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Re: Pentagon's new medal
« Reply #9 on: July 09, 2013, 09:21:26 PM »
I heard somewhere that the Japanese would specifically target medics in WWII because a medic was worth several soldiers lives-darn right medics should get the same medals as other soldiers in combat.


I have no problems with medic get the same medals as other soldiers in combat.  There life is on the line just like the combat soldiers.  But then that's just my way of thinking.    It's a job that has to be done upfront and personal.
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Re: Pentagon's new medal
« Reply #10 on: July 09, 2013, 10:13:36 PM »
I heard somewhere that the Japanese would specifically target medics in WWII because a medic was worth several soldiers lives-darn right medics should get the same medals as other soldiers in combat.
You just pointed out the original reason behind why they weren't awarded the same medals, so they wouldn't be targets.
Both sides recognized their worth and it was an accepted practice not to target them, in turn medics would stay neutral and treat all wounds, regardless of which side they were on.

Obviously we live in an entirely different world, where the enemy wants to kill everyone, including themselves.
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