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Anyone that's ever served knows this is pure BS, and there's several reasons for class levels in the ranks, most having to do with respect of the chain of command.
I could write a book on why enlistees were separated from leadership but suffice it to say, the Marxists know exactly what they are doing and they are experts in the field of deconstruction as in destroying a centuries proven system of hierarchy.
Sun Tzu is watching with fascination, how the greatest military in world history surrendered without the enemy having ever fired a shot.

http://freebeacon.com/national-security/military-making-officers-clubs-inclusive-open-ranks/
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Re: Military Making Officers’ Clubs ‘Inclusive,’ Open to All Ranks
« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2016, 08:17:15 AM »
We had a club like this at my last duty station, Naval Hospital, Beaufort,SC and I hated it. Officers were not happy either. I think this is a huge mistake, but then I'm not in charge.  :thumbdown:

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Re: Military Making Officers’ Clubs ‘Inclusive,’ Open to All Ranks
« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2016, 08:33:36 AM »
We had a club like this at my last duty station, Naval Hospital, Beaufort,SC and I hated it. Officers were not happy either. I think this is a huge mistake, but then I'm not in charge.  :thumbdown:
I can't remember seeing any outside of the PX, where anyone was welcome.
Personally, I appreciated the separation. I didn't want the Major General or First sgt seeing me get drunk, nor did I want to lose respect for them, watching them cry in their beer.
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Re: Military Making Officers’ Clubs ‘Inclusive,’ Open to All Ranks
« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2016, 01:33:33 PM »
I was a naval officer 1982-1986. We took the separate officer's and enlisted clubs for granted. According to the article below, they started getting rid of them shortly after I left the navy.

www.usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/military/2009-08-02-offlicersclubs_N.htm

(Note the age of the article)

What really surprises me is that I did not hear a peep about their decline. Next time I am down in Annapolis, I will ask around about it.

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Re: Military Making Officers’ Clubs ‘Inclusive,’ Open to All Ranks
« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2016, 01:44:40 PM »
I can't remember seeing any outside of the PX, where anyone was welcome.
Personally, I appreciated the separation. I didn't want the Major General or First sgt seeing me get drunk, nor did I want to lose respect for them, watching them cry in their beer.
Kids and adults need their space, that's just the natural way of life. Libs fight natural laws.

Not many senior officers went to that club, and only a few Chiefs ever went there. Every other duty station had a Chief's club, an O Club and an enlisted club. BTW that was in the late 70's.

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Re: Military Making Officers’ Clubs ‘Inclusive,’ Open to All Ranks
« Reply #5 on: August 05, 2016, 01:53:00 PM »
Not many senior officers went to that club, and only a few Chiefs ever went there. Every other duty station had a Chief's club, an O Club and an enlisted club. BTW that was in the late 70's.
Maybe it was different in the army and being overseas to a confined camp most of the time. And that was the early 70s under Nixon and carter both.
We just never intermingled, and I can't blame them for not wanting to, because half were draftees.
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Re: Military Making Officers’ Clubs ‘Inclusive,’ Open to All Ranks
« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2016, 03:38:49 PM »
Maybe it was different in the army and being overseas to a confined camp most of the time. And that was the early 70s under Nixon and carter both.
We just never intermingled, and I can't blame them for not wanting to, because half were draftees.

Hey!! Watch that about 'draftees',,,,..I was one, so don't hold that against me. Drafted right out of school at 21 as I expected would happen. Didn't bitch about it as soo many others did.

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Re: Military Making Officers’ Clubs ‘Inclusive,’ Open to All Ranks
« Reply #7 on: August 05, 2016, 04:07:18 PM »
Hey!! Watch that about 'draftees',,,,..I was one, so don't hold that against me. Drafted right out of school at 21 as I expected would happen. Didn't bitch about it as soo many others did.
Draftees weren't all that obligatory as a rule, did as little as possible and hating what little they had to do.
Even the enlisted men usually avoided having to work with them, simply because they didn't want to work, leaving the RA to do all the work, they wanted out and courts martial wasn't that big of a deal to them.
You would have been the exception to the rule.

I have to ask, why in the Hell did you wait to get drafted? You lose all say in your MOS choices.
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Re: Military Making Officers’ Clubs ‘Inclusive,’ Open to All Ranks
« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2016, 05:15:45 PM »
Draftees weren't all that obligatory as a rule, did as little as possible and hating what little they had to do.
Even the enlisted men usually avoided having to work with them, simply because they didn't want to work, leaving the RA to do all the work, they wanted out and courts martial wasn't that big of a deal to them.
You would have been the exception to the rule.

Yes, I would say that, as a general rule, the vast majority of draftees had less than a stellar 'attitude' towards the service, unlike those who enlisted, but, as you noted, there were exceptions. I was one of those exceptions.

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I have to ask, why in the Hell did you wait to get drafted? You lose all say in your MOS choices.

My parents had been very ill for quite some time and under constant medical care. Having no other living relatives and being their only child, it was my responsibility to take care of them first and foremost.

As for the military, I felt it was my duty to serve and the military would be best to decide as to how I should do so. I know that sounds corny, even stupid, to many, but that was me...way back in '69. 




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Re: Military Making Officers’ Clubs ‘Inclusive,’ Open to All Ranks
« Reply #9 on: August 05, 2016, 06:32:13 PM »
Yes, I would say that, as a general rule, the vast majority of draftees had less than a stellar 'attitude' towards the service, unlike those who enlisted, but, as you noted, there were exceptions. I was one of those exceptions.

My parents had been very ill for quite some time and under constant medical care. Having no other living relatives and being their only child, it was my responsibility to take care of them first and foremost.

As for the military, I felt it was my duty to serve and the military would be best to decide as to how I should do so. I know that sounds corny, even stupid, to many, but that was me...way back in '69.
That speaks volumes to the conservative culture back then. :thumbup:
Nah, that doesn't sound stupid at all, when I compare it to my aptitude test results, in that it found countless areas I excelled in, actually surprised the shit out of me.
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