Is It Time To Let Japan Off The Leash?

Started by Solar, March 25, 2015, 07:17:26 AM

Previous topic - Next topic

Solar

I say yes, but then, I admit I carry a positive bias for Japan and it's people.

YOKOHAMA (Reuters) - Japan's Maritime Self Defense Force on Wednesday took delivery of the biggest Japanese warship since World War Two, the Izumo, a helicopter carrier as big as the Imperial Navy aircraft carriers that battled the United States in the Pacific.

The Izumo with a crew of 470 sailors is a highly visible example of how Japan is expanding the capability of its military to operate overseas and enters service as Prime Minister Shinzo Abe seeks lawmaker approval to loosen the restraints of Japan's pacifist post-war constitution.

The 248 meter (813 feet) long Izumo resembles U.S. Marine Corp amphibious assault carriers in size and design but it is designated as a helicopter destroyer, a label that allows Japan to keep within the bounds of a constitutional ban on owning the means to wage war. Aircraft carriers, because of their ability to project force, are considered offensive weapons.

"The vessel can serve in a wide range of roles including peace keeping operations, international disaster relief and aid," Gen Nakatani, Japan's Minister of Defense said standing beside the vessel after a handover ceremony at the Japan United Marine shipyard in Yokohama.

"It also helps improve our ability to combat submarines.

Abe's moves to ease Japan's pacifist constitution and its build up in defense capabilities is unnerving neighbor China.

Japan is also adding longer-range patrol aircraft and military cargo planes to its defense capability, and buying Lockheed Martin F-35 fighter jets, amphibious assault vehicles and Boeing's Osprey troop carrier, which can operate from the Izumo.

The Izumo does not have a catapult necessary to launch fixed-wing fighters, but a planned vertical-take-off-and-landing (VTOL) variant of the F-35 could fly from the Izumo's flight deck.

Based at Yokosuka naval base near Tokyo, also the home port of the U.S. Seventh Fleets carrier battle group, the Izumo will join two smaller helicopters carriers already in service, that are also classed as destroyers.

http://news.yahoo.com/japanese-navy-gets-biggest-flat-top-since-wwii-044524192--sector.html
Official Trump Cult Member

#WWG1WGA

Q PATRIOT!!!

walkstall

Quote from: Solar on March 25, 2015, 07:17:26 AM
I say yes, but then, I admit I carry a positive bias for Japan and it's people.

YOKOHAMA (Reuters) - Japan's Maritime Self Defense Force on Wednesday took delivery of the biggest Japanese warship since World War Two, the Izumo, a helicopter carrier as big as the Imperial Navy aircraft carriers that battled the United States in the Pacific.

The Izumo with a crew of 470 sailors is a highly visible example of how Japan is expanding the capability of its military to operate overseas and enters service as Prime Minister Shinzo Abe seeks lawmaker approval to loosen the restraints of Japan's pacifist post-war constitution.

The 248 meter (813 feet) long Izumo resembles U.S. Marine Corp amphibious assault carriers in size and design but it is designated as a helicopter destroyer, a label that allows Japan to keep within the bounds of a constitutional ban on owning the means to wage war. Aircraft carriers, because of their ability to project force, are considered offensive weapons.

"The vessel can serve in a wide range of roles including peace keeping operations, international disaster relief and aid," Gen Nakatani, Japan's Minister of Defense said standing beside the vessel after a handover ceremony at the Japan United Marine shipyard in Yokohama.

"It also helps improve our ability to combat submarines.

Abe's moves to ease Japan's pacifist constitution and its build up in defense capabilities is unnerving neighbor China.

Japan is also adding longer-range patrol aircraft and military cargo planes to its defense capability, and buying Lockheed Martin F-35 fighter jets, amphibious assault vehicles and Boeing's Osprey troop carrier, which can operate from the Izumo.

The Izumo does not have a catapult necessary to launch fixed-wing fighters, but a planned vertical-take-off-and-landing (VTOL) variant of the F-35 could fly from the Izumo's flight deck.

Based at Yokosuka naval base near Tokyo, also the home port of the U.S. Seventh Fleets carrier battle group, the Izumo will join two smaller helicopters carriers already in service, that are also classed as destroyers.

http://news.yahoo.com/japanese-navy-gets-biggest-flat-top-since-wwii-044524192--sector.html


:lol:

Who needs a catapult when you have F 35.

F-35 Unintended loop right off the carrier deck during vertical take-off .
F-35 Unintended loop right off the carrier deck during vertical take-off
A politician thinks of the next election. A statesman, of the next generation.- James Freeman Clarke

Always remember "Feelings Aren't Facts."

supsalemgr

Quote from: Solar on March 25, 2015, 07:17:26 AM
I say yes, but then, I admit I carry a positive bias for Japan and it's people.

YOKOHAMA (Reuters) - Japan's Maritime Self Defense Force on Wednesday took delivery of the biggest Japanese warship since World War Two, the Izumo, a helicopter carrier as big as the Imperial Navy aircraft carriers that battled the United States in the Pacific.

The Izumo with a crew of 470 sailors is a highly visible example of how Japan is expanding the capability of its military to operate overseas and enters service as Prime Minister Shinzo Abe seeks lawmaker approval to loosen the restraints of Japan's pacifist post-war constitution.

The 248 meter (813 feet) long Izumo resembles U.S. Marine Corp amphibious assault carriers in size and design but it is designated as a helicopter destroyer, a label that allows Japan to keep within the bounds of a constitutional ban on owning the means to wage war. Aircraft carriers, because of their ability to project force, are considered offensive weapons.

"The vessel can serve in a wide range of roles including peace keeping operations, international disaster relief and aid," Gen Nakatani, Japan's Minister of Defense said standing beside the vessel after a handover ceremony at the Japan United Marine shipyard in Yokohama.

"It also helps improve our ability to combat submarines.

Abe's moves to ease Japan's pacifist constitution and its build up in defense capabilities is unnerving neighbor China.

Japan is also adding longer-range patrol aircraft and military cargo planes to its defense capability, and buying Lockheed Martin F-35 fighter jets, amphibious assault vehicles and Boeing's Osprey troop carrier, which can operate from the Izumo.

The Izumo does not have a catapult necessary to launch fixed-wing fighters, but a planned vertical-take-off-and-landing (VTOL) variant of the F-35 could fly from the Izumo's flight deck.

Based at Yokosuka naval base near Tokyo, also the home port of the U.S. Seventh Fleets carrier battle group, the Izumo will join two smaller helicopters carriers already in service, that are also classed as destroyers.

http://news.yahoo.com/japanese-navy-gets-biggest-flat-top-since-wwii-044524192--sector.html

I agree Japan should do more for their own protection as should South Korea and Germany. What is not stated by Japan is that they don't think they can depend on America as long as Obama is in charge.
"If you can't run with the big dawgs, stay on the porch!"

walkstall

Quote from: supsalemgr on March 25, 2015, 09:43:13 AM
I agree Japan should do more for their own protection as should South Korea and Germany. What is not stated by Japan is that they don't think they can depend on America as long as Obama is in charge.

It is not that they "don't think," it's more like they know they can not depend on b o.   
A politician thinks of the next election. A statesman, of the next generation.- James Freeman Clarke

Always remember "Feelings Aren't Facts."

Solar

Quote from: supsalemgr on March 25, 2015, 09:43:13 AM
I agree Japan should do more for their own protection as should South Korea and Germany. What is not stated by Japan is that they don't think they can depend on America as long as Obama is in charge.
Excellent point and correct.
Official Trump Cult Member

#WWG1WGA

Q PATRIOT!!!

mdgiles

By now, it's obvious to our allies that his own people and government don't trust Obama. They're probably wondering how he managed to win twice.
"LIBERALS: their willful ignorance is rivaled only by their catastrophic stupidity"!

daidalos

Illegals, anti-voter id laws, and oh yes outright voter fraud IE: votes found locked in trunks of cars etc....our electoral system has gotten so corrupt that the U.N. needs to send "observers" whats that tell you folks?
One of every five Americans you meet has a mental illness of some sort. Many, many, of our veteran's suffer from mental illness like PTSD now also. Help if ya can. :) http://www.projectsemicolon.org/share-your-story.html
And no you won't find my "story" there. They don't allow science fiction. :)

bluelieu

Quote from: daidalos on April 01, 2015, 07:00:35 AM
Illegals, anti-voter id laws, and oh yes outright voter fraud IE: votes found locked in trunks of cars etc....our electoral system has gotten so corrupt that the U.N. needs to send "observers" whats that tell you folks?

You forgot untold millions from untraceable foreign debit cards.

daidalos

As for Japan solar, no they should not. They should follow their own Constitution which prohibits Japan from waging war.
One of every five Americans you meet has a mental illness of some sort. Many, many, of our veteran's suffer from mental illness like PTSD now also. Help if ya can. :) http://www.projectsemicolon.org/share-your-story.html
And no you won't find my "story" there. They don't allow science fiction. :)

Solar

Quote from: daidalos on April 04, 2015, 11:51:38 AM
As for Japan solar, no they should not. They should follow their own Constitution which prohibits Japan from waging war.
But it's theirs to change. The question is should we intervene?
China is threatening Japans geographical interests all the while the Marxist ignores the problem.
By not backing Japan in this dispute, we grant China free reign, if we support Japan, we run the risk of getting mired in their dispute.
By not giving Japan the right to defend itself, automatically puts us at odds with China.

Would it not be in our best interest to allow Japan complete autonomous control over their own jurisdiction?
I don't see Japan declaring war anytime soon, but regardless, I do think they should be allowed to protect their own interests.
Official Trump Cult Member

#WWG1WGA

Q PATRIOT!!!

edward222

Quote from: mdgiles on March 27, 2015, 10:57:20 AM
By now, it's obvious to our allies that his own people and government don't trust Obama. They're probably wondering how he managed to win twice.

Its because there much more people that love Obama that people who hates him.
His a good President.

supsalemgr

Quote from: edward222 on April 07, 2015, 10:26:25 PM
Its because there much more people that love Obama that people who hates him.
His a good President.

You are out of touch.
"If you can't run with the big dawgs, stay on the porch!"

Solar

Quote from: edward222 on April 07, 2015, 10:26:25 PM
Its because there much more people that love Obama that people who hates him.
His a good President.
What country do you live in? We now it's not the US, because 70% of the population despise what the Marxist did to the country.
Official Trump Cult Member

#WWG1WGA

Q PATRIOT!!!

quiller

Quote from: edward222 on April 07, 2015, 10:26:25 PM
Its because there much more people that love Obama that people who hates him.
His a good President.

How can you love a dipshit who ruined our health care system, undermined LEGAL immigration, enabled widespread criminality within the Dept. of Justice (under the racist Eric Holder), and has completely proved how Democrats HATE America?

Obama is not a President. He is an officeholder who got there SOLELY because the Donks couldn't bring themselves to vote for Clinton. He is a disgrace, a racist festering boil on the arse of democracy.


Solar

Quote from: quiller on April 10, 2015, 07:10:59 AM
How can you love a dipshit who ruined our health care system, undermined LEGAL immigration, enabled widespread criminality within the Dept. of Justice (under the racist Eric Holder), and has completely proved how Democrats HATE America?

And that's just scratching the surface. Look at all the damage he's done in upsetting the balance of power to favor that of our enemies.
Obozo is the enemy of the fee world.
Official Trump Cult Member

#WWG1WGA

Q PATRIOT!!!