Are Muscums Really All that Peaceful

Started by Solar, January 26, 2015, 08:11:30 AM

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Solar

I see posts from time to time claiming it's less than 1% of the cult that is of a radical nature, but it would appear those numbers would be wrong when you consider the true definition of radical.

Penalty for Converting to Another Faith

Compared with attitudes toward applying sharia in the domestic or criminal spheres, Muslims in the countries surveyed are significantly less supportive of the death penalty for converts.19 Nevertheless, in six of the 20 countries where there are adequate samples for analysis, at least half of those who favor making Islamic law the official law also support executing apostates.

Taking the life of those who abandon Islam is most widely supported in Egypt (86%) and Jordan (82%). Roughly two-thirds who want sharia to be the law of the land also back this penalty in the Palestinian territories (66%). In the other countries surveyed in the Middle East-North Africa region, fewer than half take this view.

In the South Asian countries of Afghanistan and Pakistan, strong majorities of those who favor making Islamic law the official law of the land also approve of executing apostates (79% and 76%, respectively). However, in Bangladesh far fewer (44%) share this view.


http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-beliefs-about-sharia/
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Quote from: Solar on January 26, 2015, 08:11:30 AM
I see posts from time to time claiming it's less than 1% of the cult that is of a radical nature, but it would appear those numbers would be wrong when you consider the true definition of radical.

Penalty for Converting to Another Faith

Compared with attitudes toward applying sharia in the domestic or criminal spheres, Muslims in the countries surveyed are significantly less supportive of the death penalty for converts.19 Nevertheless, in six of the 20 countries where there are adequate samples for analysis, at least half of those who favor making Islamic law the official law also support executing apostates.

Taking the life of those who abandon Islam is most widely supported in Egypt (86%) and Jordan (82%). Roughly two-thirds who want sharia to be the law of the land also back this penalty in the Palestinian territories (66%). In the other countries surveyed in the Middle East-North Africa region, fewer than half take this view.

In the South Asian countries of Afghanistan and Pakistan, strong majorities of those who favor making Islamic law the official law of the land also approve of executing apostates (79% and 76%, respectively). However, in Bangladesh far fewer (44%) share this view.


http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-beliefs-about-sharia/

One percent would be too many!
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Quote from: Solar on January 26, 2015, 08:37:20 AM
This would put it closer to one third.
I think I'd be interested to know the percentage of "Muslims who say sharia should be the law of the land," as the chart clearly qualifies. Not saying that it's a big percentage or a small one, just saying the information isn't provided, and I don't know.
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Quote from: Solar on January 26, 2015, 08:37:20 AM
This would put it closer to one third.

All I know is some one is helping foot the bill for that 1%, there not doing it on there own. 
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Quote from: TboneAgain on January 26, 2015, 02:21:03 PM
I think I'd be interested to know the percentage of "Muslims who say sharia should be the law of the land," as the chart clearly qualifies. Not saying that it's a big percentage or a small one, just saying the information isn't provided, and I don't know.
A whole lot more than the liberal media and the apologist pundits would have us believe.

http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-beliefs-about-sharia/

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Quote from: zewazir on January 26, 2015, 07:03:17 PM
A whole lot more than the liberal media and the apologist pundits would have us believe.

http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-beliefs-about-sharia/
Exactly! Sure, there is probably 1% actually openly participating in murder, rape and pillage, but they have supporters.
Just look at the crowds that form after an idiot blows himself up to kill innocents, and these 10s of thousands martyr the moron.
That's just one, times 10s of thousands, so it's more than obvious there is by far more than a measly 1% radicalized within the cult.
I honestly believe 30% may even be on the low side of the equation.
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Quote from: Solar on January 26, 2015, 07:20:04 PM
Exactly! Sure, there is probably 1% actually openly participating in murder, rape and pillage, but they have supporters.
Just look at the crowds that form after an idiot blows himself up to kill innocents, and these 10s of thousands martyr the moron.
That's just one, times 10s of thousands, so it's more than obvious there is by far more than a measly 1% radicalized within the cult.
I honestly believe 30% may even be on the low side of the equation.

Yawn. Why, of course they're peaceful. (sarc)  :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Quote from: Solar on January 26, 2015, 07:20:04 PM
Exactly! Sure, there is probably 1% actually openly participating in murder, rape and pillage, but they have supporters.
Just look at the crowds that form after an idiot blows himself up to kill innocents, and these 10s of thousands martyr the moron.
That's just one, times 10s of thousands, so it's more than obvious there is by far more than a measly 1% radicalized within the cult.
I honestly believe 30% may even be on the low side of the equation.

I do hope you noticed before you posted this that zewazir cited precisely the same article you used as a link in your OP.

I mean, hey, I've heard of circular arguments, but this is a mighty small circle, ain't it?
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Solar

Quote from: TboneAgain on February 19, 2015, 08:31:49 PM
I do hope you noticed before you posted this that zewazir cited precisely the same article you used as a link in your OP.

I mean, hey, I've heard of circular arguments, but this is a mighty small circle, ain't it?
Yes, I just used his post as a springboard to expand my point.
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Quote from: Solar on January 26, 2015, 07:20:04 PM
Exactly! Sure, there is probably 1% actually openly participating in murder, rape and pillage, but they have supporters.
Just look at the crowds that form after an idiot blows himself up to kill innocents, and these 10s of thousands martyr the moron.
That's just one, times 10s of thousands, so it's more than obvious there is by far more than a measly 1% radicalized within the cult.
I honestly believe 30% may even be on the low side of the equation.

Moving away from the Islamic connection for a moment... Can't we all see that this is the sort of thing promoted universally by the Left? Yes, there's the Islamic/Islamist/Muslim connection, but isn't there also a Hispanic connection? A black connection? A gay/lesbian connection? An unending variety of carefully crafted connections that put the crown of victimhood on as many people as the Democrat Party can manage?

Look at the crowds that formed to martyr an overgrown idiot that strong-armed a convenient store owner to steal a box of cigars, and celebrated by strutting down the middle of a public street with his 'bro,' then, when a cop attempted to question him, handed the robbery proceeds to his 'bro' and lunged at the cop, and tried to steal the cop's gun to use to kill the cop. LOOK AT THE CROWDS THAT FORMED WHEN THAT PIECE OF SHIT WAS SHOT DEAD IN A RIGHTEOUS MANNER BY THE COP.

The exact same reaction is a knee-jerk thing when it comes to any Leftist cause. The Left will always say that conservatives hate women and black people and Hispanic people and Asian people and poor people and Islamic people and gay people, and on and on and on. That's the story. That's the meme. That's the headline, every time.

Here's my overall point. If you think only maybe 30% of black people in the US stand on the side of Trayvon Martin and Michael Brown, you're nuts. If you think only maybe 30% of Hispanics in general, and illegals in particular, stand with the Kenyan on his plan of executive amnesty, you're nuts.

But most importantly, if you think that the radical Islamic cause, and the widespread support it's gaining, is somehow different from every other Leftist cause, you're nuts.
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Solar

Quote from: TboneAgain on February 19, 2015, 09:16:26 PM
Moving away from the Islamic connection for a moment... Can't we all see that this is the sort of thing promoted universally by the Left? Yes, there's the Islamic/Islamist/Muslim connection, but isn't there also a Hispanic connection? A black connection? A gay/lesbian connection? An unending variety of carefully crafted connections that put the crown of victimhood on as many people as the Democrat Party can manage?

Look at the crowds that formed to martyr an overgrown idiot that strong-armed a convenient store owner to steal a box of cigars, and celebrated by strutting down the middle of a public street with his 'bro,' then, when a cop attempted to question him, handed the robbery proceeds to his 'bro' and lunged at the cop, and tried to steal the cop's gun to use to kill the cop. LOOK AT THE CROWDS THAT FORMED WHEN THAT PIECE OF SHIT WAS SHOT DEAD IN A RIGHTEOUS MANNER BY THE COP.

The exact same reaction is a knee-jerk thing when it comes to any Leftist cause. The Left will always say that conservatives hate women and black people and Hispanic people and Asian people and poor people and Islamic people and gay people, and on and on and on. That's the story. That's the meme. That's the headline, every time.

Here's my overall point. If you think only maybe 30% of black people in the US stand on the side of Trayvon Martin and Michael Brown, you're nuts. If you think only maybe 30% of Hispanics in general, and illegals in particular, stand with the Kenyan on his plan of executive amnesty, you're nuts.

But most importantly, if you think that the radical Islamic cause, and the widespread support it's gaining, is somehow different from every other Leftist cause, you're nuts.
Of course it's all part of the leftist movement. But this is one movement where they may have bitten off too much when you consider what is happening to Europe and the numbers of Muscum that can effect voting turnout.

Same can easily happen here as evidenced in Michigan. It wouldn't take all that long long to effect our Constitution, if say, blacks take to the religion, considering we're not dealing with a race, rather an ideology Hell bent on destroying Western culture.

It only takes one generation to undue 200 years of progress.
Look what the so called "Greatest Generation" created. A bunch of idiot libs that think with emotion and react like women when it comes to an adversary attacking our interests.
Now imagine the generation being produced today, and you think we aren't vulnerable to Islum?

No, breaking down our culture racially will never work, but break it up ideologically, and you have a war on your hands, one far more divisive than a simple division of left and right when it comes to politics.
Structure, a purpose in life with goals, belonging to something bigger than you as an individual.
These are attractive to a young man lost in the world without guidance or a father figure.
It's for the same reason kids join gangs,, and the same reason our culture is susceptible to an Islumic takeover.

Ya know, it makes one wonder if it wasn't commies trying to destroy us, but Islum itself setting the seed all along.
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Quote from: Solar on February 20, 2015, 06:45:00 AM
Ya know, it makes one wonder if it wasn't commies trying to destroy us, but Islum itself setting the seed all along.

Ours wasn't the only country that the Communists were after or infiltrated. 

Communist Influence in the Mideast Uprisings

There seems to be a big connection with the Muslim Brotherhood and Communism.  Which would explain a lot about Obama's apparent favoritism towards them. 
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