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Specifically ARs. I got into a debate with a rather intelligent ex marine who supports Assault Rifle bans and wanted to go through a document/article describing the availiblity of such guns throughout the 20th century. He indicates they were unavailable until right before the chool shootings started. I say there's no better way to enlighten somebody than with cold hard facts. any help would be appreciated.
Tell him that Eric Harris used a Hi-Point 995 carbine with great effect at Columbine HS. The Hi-Point is a 9mm semi auto using 10 round magazines, Harris carried 13 magazines (130 rounds) and discharged 96 rounds.
You know, those are good points, esp since he is so quick to only focus on the AR gunmen, like James Holmes.I'd still like an article, but these points may help. He's a great debator, almost a sophist, but he occasionally slips; like how he said Bush brought about a recession. Even in Sociology books, near-the-most liberal textbooks around, agree that Bush had stimulated growth (only they say it was growth for the rich and not the poor).
"It only proves your distrust in our government, and our military. We both served: Do you distrust our military and brothers?"He had a fairly plausible, economic-based logic behind his position before that.
Good point and the Sandyhook shooter only used handguns, not an AR.
There are conflicting reports about that. Actually, there's mostly NO information about that. At first, I heard that the shooter used two handguns, and an AR was found in the trunk of the car he drove to the school. Later, it was claimed that he used a Bushmaster AR-15 clone. But the details have not been available, and the Bushmaster claim came from exactly one person -- a deputy coroner, I believe, who did some of the autopsies.Can anybody link to a credible source that says the Sandy Hook shooter definitely used an AR-15 or something like it?
Actually my post is correct, look up the coroners report after incident, turns out his on scene assumptions were just that ASS-umptions, turns out there were three pistols used and no rifle round were found in any of the victims.
Understood, but again, I haven't seen any legitimate, reliable info on that particular subject. Obviously, the media message has always been assault weapon, assault weapon, assault weapon, but I'm not coming up with credible sources that say what weapons were used. There is a serious clamp-down on this entire incident.It's hard not to wonder whether that's a political move.