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Re: A History of the Availability of Guns?
« Reply #16 on: March 19, 2013, 05:33:15 PM »
http://conservativepoliticalforum.com/political-discussion-and-debate/nbc-admits-%27no-assault-rifle-used-at-sandyhook%27/

Exactly the same stuff I heard. But...

Where's the beef? Where is some sort of official report stating that Adam Lanza walked into Sandy Hook Elementary School with GUN X and GUN Y and GUN Z and shot A rounds from GUN X and B rounds from GUN Y and C rounds from GUN Z?

All I've seen so far is a blurb saying that some state police looey claims it was all done with the Bushmaster, and a ridiculous statement from an assistant coroner who did some of the autopsies who described "assault weapon wounds" as if they were distinct and readily discernible from all other types of gunshot wounds.

YES, Lanza had access to the Bushmaster, along with a shotgun and at least two handguns.

WHAT DID HE USE?
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Re: A History of the Availability of Guns?
« Reply #17 on: March 19, 2013, 06:19:24 PM »
Exactly the same stuff I heard. But...

Where's the beef? Where is some sort of official report stating that Adam Lanza walked into Sandy Hook Elementary School with GUN X and GUN Y and GUN Z and shot A rounds from GUN X and B rounds from GUN Y and C rounds from GUN Z?

All I've seen so far is a blurb saying that some state police looey claims it was all done with the Bushmaster, and a ridiculous statement from an assistant coroner who did some of the autopsies who described "assault weapon wounds" as if they were distinct and readily discernible from all other types of gunshot wounds.

YES, Lanza had access to the Bushmaster, along with a shotgun and at least two handguns.

WHAT DID HE USE?
So you're starting to get the cover up?
The very day of the shooting:
   
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The veteran medical examiner told reporters that the victims had all been identified and their bodies released. In what appeared to be an uncomfortable moment for Carver, he said all of the victims he had examined had all been shot by a Bushmaster .223 caliber assault rifle, one of at least two weapons Adam Lanza, the 20-year-old suspected shooter, used to commit one of the deadliest mass shootings in U.S. history.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/medical-examiner-sandy-hook-victims-died-multiple-gunshot-211722237.html

You can't tell me he wasn't told to lie. I saw him speaking, you could tell he was lying, and didn't like it one bit, in fact he looked angry as Hell, rather than subdued as most are in situations like this, most people try and hide their true feelings and soldier through.
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Re: A History of the Availability of Guns?
« Reply #18 on: March 19, 2013, 06:45:00 PM »
Obviously, unless he had been prepped beforehand, he would never have ventured an opinion that any wounds had been inflicted by any brand or even specific caliber of gun. Assuming that all the entry wounds were roughly 1/4 inch -- as you might expect from a small-caliber gun -- they could be made by anything from a .22 BBCap to a .220 Swift, or by any of two dozen calibers between. They could also be made by a BIC pen.

To judge "damage" from specific wounds and assign them to a specific weapon is again to dare the infinite combinations of time, space, force, caliber, speed, etc.

The man was coached to say what he said.

The left could only dream that the same coroner had examined Trayvon Williams.
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Re: A History of the Availability of Guns?
« Reply #19 on: March 19, 2013, 06:53:59 PM »
Obviously, unless he had been prepped beforehand, he would never have ventured an opinion that any wounds had been inflicted by any brand or even specific caliber of gun. Assuming that all the entry wounds were roughly 1/4 inch -- as you might expect from a small-caliber gun -- they could be made by anything from a .22 BBCap to a .220 Swift, or by any of two dozen calibers between. They could also be made by a BIC pen.

To judge "damage" from specific wounds and assign them to a specific weapon is again to dare the infinite combinations of time, space, force, caliber, speed, etc.

The man was coached to say what he said.

The left could only dream that the same coroner had examined Trayvon Williams.
Yep. A cover up of astronomical proportions, but when it comes to agenda, nothing surprises me coming from the left.
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Re: A History of the Availability of Guns?
« Reply #20 on: April 03, 2013, 09:50:26 AM »
Guns are not the problem.  If the guy in CO has used a shot gun he could have done a lot more damage and if the people in the theater has all be carrying guns it would have turned into a masacure.  Most people who have gone out aqnd bought their first gun recently are not trained physically or mentalty to shot someone.  It is a lot more dangerous out then today than a year ago.  We have way to many trigger happy people who have taken a 10 handgun class and they that they are ready to carry a gun around.
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Re: A History of the Availability of Guns?
« Reply #21 on: April 03, 2013, 10:02:13 AM »
Guns are not the problem.  If the guy in CO has used a shot gun he could have done a lot more damage and if the people in the theater has all be carrying guns it would have turned into a masacure.  Most people who have gone out aqnd bought their first gun recently are not trained physically or mentalty to shot someone.  It is a lot more dangerous out then today than a year ago.  We have way to many trigger happy people who have taken a 10 handgun class and they that they are ready to carry a gun around.
So you're against legally concealed carry, personal defense, the right to protect ones self?
What you posted, came right out of Leftist talking points.
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Re: A History of the Availability of Guns?
« Reply #22 on: April 03, 2013, 05:43:27 PM »
Guns are not the problem.  If the guy in CO has used a shot gun he could have done a lot more damage and if the people in the theater has all be carrying guns it would have turned into a masacure.  Most people who have gone out aqnd bought their first gun recently are not trained physically or mentalty to shot someone.  It is a lot more dangerous out then today than a year ago.  We have way to many trigger happy people who have taken a 10 handgun class and they that they are ready to carry a gun around.

Please define. Thanks.
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Re: A History of the Availability of Guns?
« Reply #23 on: April 03, 2013, 05:56:15 PM »
Please define. Thanks.
I think he meant 10 hour class.

What bugs the hell out of me is the idiots that think people that have never handled a gun before are going to be at the head of the line when wanting to carry a gun in school.

Stupid, stupid people!
If I were working at a school and they needed three people to sign up, I'd volunteer, but only after they've filled their requirement of three first.
I would pack, but it would be a shotgun in a locker, I know my limitations, and I've been shooting for decades.
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Re: A History of the Availability of Guns?
« Reply #24 on: April 03, 2013, 06:19:18 PM »
I guess my point is that a guy carrying a good-quality pellet gun or a "wrist-rocket" slingshot or a K-Bar knife could have walked into that Colorado theater and done a TREMENDOUS amount of damage -- maybe fewer or no fatalities, but still a LOT of damage -- precisely because no one else in the place was armed at all.

I've posted this elsewhere on the board, but a famous bank robber was once interviewed by a reporter, who asked, "Why did you concentrate on banks?" The robber replied, "That's where the money is." The same principle applies to all these mass shootings -- they occur in known, even ADVERTISED, "gun-free" zones.

"That's where the victims are."

Every school shooting has occurred in a "gun-free zone."

The Aurora, CO theater shooting occurred in a "gun-free zone."

The Ft. Hood shooting in TX occurred in a part of the base where personnel were prohibited from carrying arms -- a "gun-free zone."

The mall in AZ where Gabby Giffords was shot occurred in a "gun-free zone."

The McDonald's massacre in Killeen, TX back in 1991 might have turned out differently if it hadn't taken place in a "gun-free zone." At least one person in possession of a legally-carried firearm had taken it out of her purse and left it in her vehicle before entering the restaurant -- in compliance with a gun-control law.

Every "gun-free zone" is a literal savings bank of unarmed, helpless victims. Adam Lanza was, by all accounts, an utter waste of human protoplasm, a sad specimen, the best part of whom probably soaked into the mattress the night he was conceived. But it doesn't take all that many brain cells to figure out that even losers can be dominators when they bring arms to a designated arms-free place.
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