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191st Birthday Tribute to General Forrest
« on: July 13, 2012, 03:21:04 PM »
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Some things you 'didn't' know ..

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Nelson W. Winbush, a Black and respected member of the Sons of Confederate Veterans, as a child accompanied his grandfather Louis Napoleon Nelson to United Confederate Veteran Reunions. Private Nelson was a Black Confederate who saw service during the War Between the States Battles of Shiloh, Lookout Mountain, Brice’s Crossroads and Vicksburg—as a soldier and served as chaplain in the 7th Tennessee Cavalry, under Lt. General Nathan Bedford Forrest.

It should be also noted that after the War Between the States, Bedford Forrest returned home with the ‘free’ black men who fought with him. Sixty-five black troopers were with the General when he surrendered his command in May 1865. Forrest said of these black soldiers, “No finer Confederates ever fought.”



Some people have called General Forrest an early advocate for Civil Rights.

Forrest’s speech during a meeting of the “Jubilee of Pole Bearers” is a story that should be told. Gen. Forrest was the first white man to be invited by this group which was a forerunner of today’s Civil Rights group. A reporter of the Memphis Avalanche newspaper was sent to cover the event that included a Southern barbeque supper.

Miss Lou Lewis, daughter of a Pole Bearer member, was introduced to Forrest and she presented the former general a bouquet of flowers as a token of reconciliation, peace and good will. On July 5, 1875, Nathan Bedford Forrest delivered this speech:

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We have but one flag, one country; let us stand together. We may differ in color, but not in sentiment. Many things have been said about me which are wrong, and which white and black persons here, who stood by me through the war, can contradict.


Nathan Bedford Forrest again thanked Miss Lewis for the bouquet and then gave her a kiss on the cheek. Such a kiss was unheard of in the society of those days, in 1875, but it showed a token of respect and friendship between the general and the black community and did much to promote harmony among the citizens of Memphis.

This year, 2012, is the 107th anniversary of the dedication of a General Forrest Statue in Memphis, Tennessee.






http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/48023



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Re: 191st Birthday Tribute to General Forrest
« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2012, 03:24:55 PM »
I just assumed that this could fall under Politics and Hot Topics. :thumbsup:


Some things you 'didn't' know ..


Some people have called General Forrest an early advocate for Civil Rights.

Forrest’s speech during a meeting of the “Jubilee of Pole Bearers” is a story that should be told. Gen. Forrest was the first white man to be invited by this group which was a forerunner of today’s Civil Rights group. A reporter of the Memphis Avalanche newspaper was sent to cover the event that included a Southern barbeque supper.

Miss Lou Lewis, daughter of a Pole Bearer member, was introduced to Forrest and she presented the former general a bouquet of flowers as a token of reconciliation, peace and good will. On July 5, 1875, Nathan Bedford Forrest delivered this speech:

In part:

Nathan Bedford Forrest again thanked Miss Lewis for the bouquet and then gave her a kiss on the cheek. Such a kiss was unheard of in the society of those days, in 1875, but it showed a token of respect and friendship between the general and the black community and did much to promote harmony among the citizens of Memphis.

This year, 2012, is the 107th anniversary of the dedication of a General Forrest Statue in Memphis, Tennessee.






http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/48023


Howdy mrclose.  I just realized that I know you from that "other" board.

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Re: 191st Birthday Tribute to General Forrest
« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2012, 05:35:27 PM »
Howdy mrclose.  I just realized that I know you from that "other" board.

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Re: 191st Birthday Tribute to General Forrest
« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2012, 05:46:45 PM »
Here are some more things you probably didn't know....Nathan Bedford Forrest (Aka "the very Devil")....participated in the massacre of about 300 Black Union troops at fort Pillow. Other than that He was one of the main architects of the KKK....I hardly think this makes him anything other than what he really was....A terrorist.


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Re: 191st Birthday Tribute to General Forrest
« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2012, 06:44:05 PM »
Here are some more things you probably didn't know....Nathan Bedford Forrest (Aka "the very Devil")....participated in the massacre of about 300 Black Union troops at fort Pillow. Other than that He was one of the main architects of the KKK....I hardly think this makes him anything other than what he really was....A terrorist.


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Well Gee Billy, that is why I said in the first post .. "Some things you 'didn't' know .." :biggrin:

And just so this post doesn't go in a direction that it wasn't meant to go .. I am one of those who could pass for Obama's son 'IF' .. :thumbsup:

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Re: 191st Birthday Tribute to General Forrest
« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2012, 06:58:52 PM »
I'm just sayin....I'm a big Civil War Buff and NBF was quite a figure...not too many people know he went on to be the Klans first Grand Wizard.

Why he wasn't tried and hung for war crimes is beyond me....he was worse than Quantrell.


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Re: 191st Birthday Tribute to General Forrest
« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2012, 11:43:11 AM »
My apologies for placing CPR on this post, but it deserves one last comment. 

NBF was probably the finest general the South fielded during the Civil War (IMHO).  It is tragic that  his monument has been defaced and the object of ridicule and scorn by the utopian fascists as well as by reconstructed Southerners who wish to give him up for our collective sin. 

No general better personified leadership (other than Lee) than NBF on the field of battle.

I asked a former West Point graduate if NBF's comments and idea on combat were taught at the academy. "Oh heavens, no.  The leadership there see him as a bigot and the officers who teach there have said as much."
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Re: 191st Birthday Tribute to General Forrest
« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2012, 04:43:57 PM »
My apologies for placing CPR on this post, but it deserves one last comment. 

NBF was probably the finest general the South fielded during the Civil War (IMHO).  It is tragic that  his monument has been defaced and the object of ridicule and scorn by the utopian fascists as well as by reconstructed Southerners who wish to give him up for our collective sin. 

No general better personified leadership (other than Lee) than NBF on the field of battle.

I asked a former West Point graduate if NBF's comments and idea on combat were taught at the academy. "Oh heavens, no.  The leadership there see him as a bigot and the officers who teach there have said as much."


Well.....that may be why some of their graduates are not as good as they should be. 

From my experience and those I served with...we liked the ROTC officers the best.

West Pointers were too carreer oriented in my opinion and could get you killed in some stupid attempt to enhance their career.
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Re: 191st Birthday Tribute to General Forrest
« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2013, 03:00:15 PM »
Well.....that may be why some of their graduates are not as good as they should be. 

From my experience and those I served with...we liked the ROTC officers the best.

West Pointers were too carreer oriented in my opinion and could get you killed in some stupid attempt to enhance their career.
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