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"Army 2015"
« on: June 22, 2015, 05:25:57 AM »
The unprecedented International Military-Technical Forum “ARMY-2015” in Moscow has finished its work on June 19, 2015.Strengthening the role of the Russian Federation in the international political arena has led to an unprecedented rise in the interest of the West to the situation in the development of advanced weapons and military equipment in this country. Moreover, a closer attention is paid to the partners of Moscow in military-technical sphere, including Belarus.
With some 5,000 items on display in an area including 100,000 sq meters of open space and 40,000 sq meters of pavilion space, Army-2015 was divided into 50 thematic sectors, aiming to cover all possible fields of military technology.
According to the press release of the State Military and Industrial Committee of Belarus, “The leading enterprises of the Belarusian military-industrial complex presented at the Army-2015 new samples of their products, including those developed in collaboration with their Russian partners.”
It is no secret that the current military-technical cooperation between Belarus and Russia is developing due to the general political and military-strategic interests, as well as to a high degree of economic integration. However, the days of “absolute” choice of Belarusian companies while concluding new contracts since the Soviet Union doesn’t work anymore. A high degree of competition in the global arms market has become a stimulus for Belarus to develop new solutions, military thought and scientific technological innovations in order to strengthen security and defence.
And Belarus has made a major breakthrough, achieving uniqueness of the national military-industrial complex’ products. Numerous samples of demonstrated products are the best proof of the great potential for further deepening of bilateral military-technical cooperation.
Among demonstrated vehicles Minsk Wheel Tractor Plant brought a new 8-wheel truck MZKT-600201 (8x8) and an upgraded 6-wheeler MZKT-600100 (6x6). MZKT-600100 is markedly different in appearance from the previous model. MZKT-600100 has got a new cabin with a hatch in the roof and a modified interior. The engine is 420 hp YAMZ-7513, maximum speed is 110 kph, the range - 1000 km, load capacity - 12500 kg, GVW - 26 tonnes.
The more so, the Minsk Wheel Tractor Plant has demonstrated the developed MZKT-500200 (4x4) military cross-country road-size chassis with an independent suspension. And these models are only a small part of the products exhibited at the forum.
One of the logical outcome of the successful Belarus’ participation in the International Military-Technical Forum “Army 2015” and the continued expansion of mutually beneficial military-technical cooperation was the signing of contract on June 16, 2015 between the Ministry of Defence of the Republic of Belarus and the holding “Helicopters of Russia” of State Corporation Rostec for delivery of twelve military transport helicopters Mi-8 MTV-5 in 2016 -2017.
According to the general director of the holding “Helicopters of Russia” Alexander Mikheyev, “The Republic of Belarus is an important partner of Russia in the sphere of military-technical cooperation. Military transport helicopters Mi-8 MTV-5 are to help the Union State to raise defence and to expand the capacity of the Armed Forces. The signing of such a large contract is another step in strengthening the friendship and business relationship between the two countries.”
So, skeptics, who are actively discussing in the media the idea of reducing the volume of military-technical cooperation between the two countries, should do their best to find at least some reasons for doubt.

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Re: "Army 2015"
« Reply #1 on: June 22, 2015, 05:55:11 AM »
Yet you never question, why build such a huge military, when in truth, no one is threatening Russia?
Think about that, we deconstructed the USSR without firing a shot, and suddenly Putin is concerned that he may be attacked?

The answer is one of two options, he's either a paranoid schizophrenic, or a megalomaniac preparing for war, hence the push for Nationalism.
Be very afraid, this man will get you all killed if you all stay on this path to war. Despite what you're being told, Russia cannot fight a war against an allied free world.
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« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2015, 10:28:19 AM »
Putin is a thug, and like all thug dictators, is afraid of attack. It's just not an attack from without, but from within he'd better be worried about.
One of every five Americans you meet has a mental illness of some sort. Many, many, of our veteran's suffer from mental illness like PTSD now also. Help if ya can. :) http://www.projectsemicolon.org/share-your-story.html
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« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2015, 11:39:07 AM »
...when in truth, no one is threatening Russia?

Is this a joke or you completely ignorant on the topic?

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« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2015, 11:46:01 AM »
Is this a joke or you completely ignorant on the topic?

Please fill us in. Who is threatening Russia and it what way?
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« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2015, 12:32:42 PM »
Please fill us in. Who is threatening Russia and it what way?
Justify please, continuing existenсe of NATO and spreading of it toward Russian borders?

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« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2015, 12:38:55 PM »
Justify please, continuing existenсe of NATO and spreading of it toward Russian borders?

 :lol:  In this day and age the is not Justifying NATO.   It should be dismantled and the land sold to the highest bidder in the U.S. 
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« Reply #7 on: August 02, 2015, 01:20:57 PM »
Justify please, continuing existenсe of NATO and spreading of it toward Russian borders?

NATO was formed to have an alliance against an aggressive Soviet Union designed to protect members. There is nothing about NATO that desires any problems with Russia if they behave. Why did the Baltic states want to join the NATO. They had already had an experience with Soviet occupation and did not like it. They chose to go to the west.

I answered your question. Now answer mine without another question. The big part of the question is WHY?
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« Reply #8 on: August 02, 2015, 01:33:19 PM »
Is this a joke or you completely ignorant on the topic?
Then you need to define threat, because normal people translate threat as one of a physical nature.
Are you saying the US is physically threatening Russia?

What would be the purpose? We killed of the USSR and never fired a single shot, and if we really wanted to, we could easily cripple Russia into collapse, but we don't, because most Americans harbor no ill will towards Russia, Hell, many of us respect Russians, we even let them immigrate here.

Show me proof that Russia is being threatened. Personally, I think you're on par with our foolish ignorant and gullible libs, you only believe the party line.
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« Reply #9 on: August 03, 2015, 12:53:57 PM »
Then you need to define threat, because normal people translate threat as one of a physical nature.
Are you saying the US is physically threatening Russia?
Wouldn't be for Russia too late to react if US start getting "physical"?  Every country, especially great ones, had to  have means of protection. And buy the way, what is the size of US military budget? Isn't it like size of 8 or 10 countries, that follow the list behind US, combined? How many military bases have Russia next to US? Maybe Russia trying to  install "anti-Iran" missiles in Mexico?  It's dangerous games american administration playing in nuclear age...

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« Reply #10 on: August 03, 2015, 01:22:13 PM »
Wouldn't be for Russia too late to react if US start getting "physical"?  Every country, especially great ones, had to  have means of protection. And buy the way, what is the size of US military budget? Isn't it like size of 8 or 10 countries, that follow the list behind US, combined? How many military bases have Russia next to US? Maybe Russia trying to  install "anti-Iran" missiles in Mexico?  It's dangerous games american administration playing in nuclear age...
There's no denying we have the most powerful Military in world history, but with that power comes great responsibility coupled with great restraint.
Like I said, if we wanted to attack Russia, there is nothing anyone could do and no one that could stop us, but as an American, we would not stand for an unprovoked attack against Russia.
Russia has nothing we want, not one damn thing, if they did, we'd have taken it back in the 80s.

What you see in America is a weak Marxist leader and Putin knows this and is taking advantage of the situation, as would most leaders looking to increase power.
Watch how things quickly change after we get rid of our child dictator. Stability will return to the world, economies will begin to stabilize and improve.

Like I said, with great power, come a great responsibility. Something American Conservatives take very seriously, while liberal socialists exploit at our and yours, and the rest of the world's expense.
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« Reply #11 on: August 03, 2015, 01:41:49 PM »
Wouldn't be for Russia too late to react if US start getting "physical"?  Every country, especially great ones, had to  have means of protection. And buy the way, what is the size of US military budget? Isn't it like size of 8 or 10 countries, that follow the list behind US, combined? How many military bases have Russia next to US? Maybe Russia trying to  install "anti-Iran" missiles in Mexico?  It's dangerous games american administration playing in nuclear age...

Please try to understand that NATO was formed as an alliance to discourage the old Soviet Union from further aggressive expansion. That being said, when the SU broke up and the "cold war" ended the threat from Russia was diminished. Now Mr. Putin has gone back to the type indications he would like to "put the band back together" as was the SU. Therefore, The US is hopefully fulfilling its NATO obligations to protect member countries. The US has no desire for a conflict with Russia. We have our hands full with another enemy, radical Islam. Our current president is a fool, or something worse, and will not acknowledge our enemy. That does mean the enemy is not there. Your statement about Russian missiles in Mexico is a straw man argument. It is apples and oranges.
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« Reply #12 on: August 05, 2015, 12:11:02 PM »
Please try to understand that NATO was formed as an alliance to discourage the old Soviet Union from further aggressive expansion. That being said, when the SU broke up and the "cold war" ended the threat from Russia was diminished. Now Mr. Putin has gone back to the type indications he would like to "put the band back together" as was the SU. Therefore, The US is hopefully fulfilling its NATO obligations to protect member countries. The US has no desire for a conflict with Russia. We have our hands full with another enemy, radical Islam. Our current president is a fool, or something worse, and will not acknowledge our enemy. That does mean the enemy is not there. Your statement about Russian missiles in Mexico is a straw man argument. It is apples and oranges.

Russia's true enemy is Radical Islam and China. Europe does not want to take anything from Russia, we just want to buy their natural resources, and they pretty much dictate the prices. Pretty foolish of Putin to antagonize Europe even if NATO is expanding. It is ironic but a new tsarist and traditional cultured Russia is a perfect member for NATO.

China wants Sibir, would not be surprised if their plan is to annex by colonization with Han Chinese illegal immigration all of Russia's eastern part. Problem is that where Russia have most of it's natural resources, resources they are also planning on saving for posterity. Radical Islam want global domination and Russia already have a problem with Islamist terrorist.

When Putin is replaced by a younger Non-USSR era dictator I think Russia will become a strong ally of the US and Europe if not part of NATO (or equivalent new future alliance) eventually. Problem with Putin and the old guard is they feel personally humiliated by the US for losing the cold war and the complete utter failure of Soviet Socialism.

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« Reply #13 on: August 05, 2015, 12:30:54 PM »
Russia's true enemy is Radical Islam and China. Europe does not want to take anything from Russia, we just want to buy their natural resources, and they pretty much dictate the prices. Pretty foolish of Putin to antagonize Europe even if NATO is expanding. It is ironic but a new tsarist and traditional cultured Russia is a perfect member for NATO.

China wants Sibir, would not be surprised if their plan is to annex by colonization with Han Chinese illegal immigration all of Russia's eastern part. Problem is that where Russia have most of it's natural resources, resources they are also planning on saving for posterity. Radical Islam want global domination and Russia already have a problem with Islamist terrorist.

When Putin is replaced by a younger Non-USSR era dictator I think Russia will become a strong ally of the US and Europe if not part of NATO (or equivalent new future alliance) eventually. Problem with Putin and the old guard is they feel personally humiliated by the US for losing the cold war and the complete utter failure of Soviet Socialism.

I think you make an excellent analysis about new leadership. I was in Russia a few years ago before Putin started his mischief. It seemed the younger generation was embracing capitalism and their new freedoms. There were signs that folks really wanted to be friends with the west. A new younger generation will not have the memories of the false strength of the old SU and will hopefully see the benefits of alliance with the west. We have a common enemy of radical Islam.
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« Reply #14 on: August 06, 2015, 05:11:49 AM »
I think you make an excellent analysis about new leadership. I was in Russia a few years ago before Putin started his mischief. It seemed the younger generation was embracing capitalism and their new freedoms. There were signs that folks really wanted to be friends with the west. A new younger generation will not have the memories of the false strength of the old SU and will hopefully see the benefits of alliance with the west. We have a common enemy of radical Islam.

Yeah, I had similar experience in Russia. When I was there the main black marketplace in St.Petersburg there was playing Ramstein, a hardcore german metal band, people were selling western movies, games, music and porn. People were friendly and open, of course many were drunk as well  :tounge: But all in all I think you are completely right in that they want western lifestyle. The problem that Russia's young people have when interacting with the global community is lack of English comprehension, but that doesn't stop them from embracing our culture. Iran young people as well want to live western lifestyles as we saw in the green revolution, they don't want the islamist-marxist crap.

 

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