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Far Cry 4
« on: December 03, 2014, 03:37:02 PM »
I'm trying to like it... but the story is awful.  -Though the gameplay is basically entertaining.  Too bad Far Cry 3 already exists.  Ubisoft Studios basically copied themselves.  Instead of Rook Island, which the player could attribute believability to, we now get a mythical 'state' in Eastern India called Kyrat.  And it's ridiculous.

Rhinos and bears in India? 

I'm only a few hours into it, but I don't see things picking-up. 


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Re: Far Cry 4
« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2014, 03:51:43 PM »
there are Rhinos and bears in India, Rino originated iin India if I;m not mistaken :biggrin:
I lost my fascination with the Farcry theme after 3, in simple terms, it sucked, mostly for the damn cutaways, AI controlled fights, all of which pulled away from wanting to play the gamer over. Instead, I just saved at the best point and replayed it over and over.

Let me know if they pull that shit again.
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Re: Far Cry 4
« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2014, 10:42:29 PM »
there are Rhinos and bears in India, Rino originated iin India if I;m not mistaken :biggrin:
I lost my fascination with the Farcry theme after 3, in simple terms, it sucked, mostly for the damn cutaways, AI controlled fights, all of which pulled away from wanting to play the gamer over. Instead, I just saved at the best point and replayed it over and over.

Let me know if they pull that shit again.

Wow, you're right.  There are species of bear and rhino in India. 

The heart of what-I-was-alluding-to is that non-stalking predators don't immediately charge you when they see you from a distance.  You're also attacked by eagles and barracudas, on sight. 

Far Cry 3 was the first FC-installment I played, so I was expecting a logical next phase.  Not an incestuous rip-off.   

 

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Re: Far Cry 4
« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2014, 06:24:38 AM »
Wow, you're right.  There are species of bear and rhino in India. 

The heart of what-I-was-alluding-to is that non-stalking predators don't immediately charge you when they see you from a distance.  You're also attacked by eagles and barracudas, on sight. 

Far Cry 3 was the first FC-installment I played, so I was expecting a logical next phase.  Not an incestuous rip-off.   

 
Instead of building on the successes of it's predecessor, Farcry seems to take shortcuts, in turn diminishing the quality of game play that "was" successful, and capitalizing on and taking advantage of their audience.
Reminds me of a business tactic prior to selling the company, or bankrupting. Either way, milk it dry, make all the profit possible, increase the value of stock for the share holders, and sell or close the doors.

If the Farcry logo keeps this up, they will go out of business. Planned, or otherwise.
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Re: Far Cry 4
« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2014, 09:48:11 PM »
Instead of building on the successes of it's predecessor, Farcry seems to take shortcuts, in turn diminishing the quality of game play that "was" successful, and capitalizing on and taking advantage of their audience.
Reminds me of a business tactic prior to selling the company, or bankrupting. Either way, milk it dry, make all the profit possible, increase the value of stock for the share holders, and sell or close the doors.

If the Farcry logo keeps this up, they will go out of business. Planned, or otherwise.

Agreed.  It's also a business-muff of sorts.  Ubisoft released Assassin's Creed III (the American Revolution one) in 2012, virtually simultaneously with its FC3 installment, causing the latter to underperform.  Now, in 2014, they released Assassin's Creed Unity (the French Revolution) simultaneous with FC4, causing both to suffer lackluster reviews.


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Re: Far Cry 4
« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2014, 05:23:56 AM »
Agreed.  It's also a business-muff of sorts.  Ubisoft released Assassin's Creed III (the American Revolution one) in 2012, virtually simultaneously with its FC3 installment, causing the latter to underperform.  Now, in 2014, they released Assassin's Creed Unity (the French Revolution) simultaneous with FC4, causing both to suffer lackluster reviews.
Sony corporation is a perfect example here. They started out making affordable high quality products, dominated the mkt, became synonymous with quality, only to now, live solely off their name.
They no longer make a quality product, but people still buy their product.

I used to love Quake, until they targeted the online gamer, shooting themselves in the foot by cutting out 80% their mkt.
I don't even know if the Quake label still exists. I think that's what we may be seeing here with FC, they build a game that has some replay ability, but winds up being an online game in the end.
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Re: Far Cry 4
« Reply #6 on: December 24, 2014, 06:00:51 AM »
Even though it brings me the ire of my friends, I still love the original far cry the most. Starting out fighting mercs, uncovering labs, being chased through the jungle by abominations, really cool car chases which are not on rail where if you screw up your dead, awesome chopper vs machine gun boat fights, awesome story with really cool bad guy, cool plot twist at the end and a general difficult curve of enemies ranging from mercs, to abomination, rocket arm whatshouldIcallit abomination with the voice of the resident evil super zombie thingie to SWAT style mercs to heavily armored mercs. Damn what an experience that was.

If you are not planning on playing far cry 4 COOP then I would not bother with it, the story like Kit Saginaw said is horrible and leave it to Ubisoft to pay homage to the "shining path" of peru or wherever a terrorist commie narco organization that used forced prostitution, gang rape, child soldiers and blowing up children...

I like the hunting and the crafting though, and assaulting the fortresses in COOP mode is really fun. Also the assassin/hostage missions are fun COOP planning strategy and trying out different tactics on hard mode. Though it gets repetitive, not really that "dynamic" having procedural quests if there are only 4 types of the same quest. And what is it with the living standard being so high in Kytarra? Everyone has their own car, atv, chopper and boat  :tounge: Except for fighting they sure have it good.

Also I can't bring myself to forgive Ubisoft for ruining the Heroes of Might and Magic franchise. They always simplify everything, same with Far cry 4. At least they kept the crafting system, I was sure they would cut that out as well as its not "needed".
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Re: Far Cry 4
« Reply #7 on: December 24, 2014, 06:11:29 AM »
Even though it brings me the ire of my friends, I still love the original far cry the most. Starting out fighting mercs, uncovering labs, being chased through the jungle by abominations, really cool car chases which are not on rail where if you screw up your dead, awesome chopper vs machine gun boat fights, awesome story with really cool bad guy, cool plot twist at the end and a general difficult curve of enemies ranging from mercs, to abomination, rocket arm whatshouldIcallit abomination with the voice of the resident evil super zombie thingie to SWAT style mercs to heavily armored mercs. Damn what an experience that was.

If you are not planning on playing far cry 4 COOP then I would not bother with it, the story like Kit Saginaw said is horrible and leave it to Ubisoft to pay homage to the "shining path" of peru or wherever a terrorist commie narco organization that used forced prostitution, gang rape, child soldiers and blowing up children...

I like the hunting and the crafting though, and assaulting the fortresses in COOP mode is really fun. Also the assassin/hostage missions are fun COOP planning strategy and trying out different tactics on hard mode. Though it gets repetitive, not really that "dynamic" having procedural quests if there are only 4 types of the same quest. And what is it with the living standard being so high in Kytarra? Everyone has their own car, atv, chopper and boat  :tounge: Except for fighting they sure have it good.

Also I can't bring myself to forgive Ubisoft for ruining the Heroes of Might and Magic franchise. They always simplify everything, same with Far cry 4. At least they kept the crafting system, I was sure they would cut that out as well as its not "needed".
Agree.. The first Farcry was fantastic, especially using a hang glider to fly over the jungle which was state of the art beautiful.
Hours of replay and never boring. Now however, every succeeding game has fallen by half, so much so, I swore after FC-3 I''d never buy another one of their games.
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Re: Far Cry 4
« Reply #8 on: December 24, 2014, 06:25:53 AM »
Agree.. The first Farcry was fantastic, especially using a hang glider to fly over the jungle which was state of the art beautiful.
Hours of replay and never boring. Now however, every succeeding game has fallen by half, so much so, I swore after FC-3 I''d never buy another one of their games.

Yeah, I keep coming back to the old games. The graphics even though are much better now the gameplay is still a lot worse, take Doom 1-2 or Quake 1-3 they had awesome gameplay where you didnt need to hide every 5 sec to regain health. Still though when it comes to SP games I'm really looking forward to the new Witcher game, have preordered it on steam but I want to get a PS4 just to be able to play it more relax position. Thoses poles always deliver with no shit like uplay attached, they are the antithesis to Ubisoft.

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Re: Far Cry 4
« Reply #9 on: December 24, 2014, 06:45:38 AM »
Yeah, I keep coming back to the old games. The graphics even though are much better now the gameplay is still a lot worse, take Doom 1-2 or Quake 1-3 they had awesome gameplay where you didnt need to hide every 5 sec to regain health. Still though when it comes to SP games I'm really looking forward to the new Witcher game, have preordered it on steam but I want to get a PS4 just to be able to play it more relax position. Thoses poles always deliver with no shit like uplay attached, they are the antithesis to Ubisoft.
Update us when Witcher comes out. I wish I could order online, but with limits on allotted usage, I'm SOL.
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Re: Far Cry 4
« Reply #10 on: December 27, 2014, 04:34:35 AM »
Final impressions...

I chose the anti golden-path ending, which was... :confused:

I let my 'arch-enemy' live because I thought there'd be a final shootout...  I walk out of a door and he's in a low-hovering chopper.  He says:  " I'm keeping the helicopter, "  then soars-off.  -And you're left as master of an open (albeit; soulless) Province

All the death and consternation was ridiculously unnecessary.  You're left with loot and abilities... but you're too powerful to enjoy any remaining side-missions. 

I can't imagine gamers in India being very happy with it either.   

 

 

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