Love the concept of open world, love the game as well, but don't buy it just yet.
I've been playing it for a week now, but the bugs are so bad, I've had to use God cheat for most of the game just to get through it because of freezing up, I won't even go into the fact that sound is nonexistent. :glare:
Wait for the update to be released maybe next week.
I had mine installed at Best buy because I'd heard already that just to get the game up and running required several gigs of updates, and I'm guessing I was right because the tech at Best buy said he'd have it ready in a couple of hours, I didn't get it back till the following day, he said it downloaded for 8 straight hours via DSL connection.
I get it home, fire it up, only to have another gig plus download, and that was within 8 hours of their update.
Could you imagine buying a car, only to realize halfway home, that they had failed to install the glass, heat and air, and a transmission with just reverse working and half the frame on your car still missing?
Well that's what game makers get away with, and claim it's merely an update.
With that said, the game truly looks great, the immersion factor is off the chart, with a mix of first person shooter battling every known enemy on the planet, including ghouls and radiated/transformed animals, looting, pick pocketing.
And that's just following the games directions, or you can go rogue and play one man merc/murderer and simply raise havoc everywhere you go.
The powerups are endless, too many to even begin to list.
Suffice it to say, I can see playing a full month and still not completing 20% of the game.
But possibly a year of solid game play would be required to finish every aspect of the game.
https://www.fallout4.com/age-gate
Wow, sorry to hear about your problems, I've been playing since release day and only encountered one minor problem with the settlements thing. I bought it via steam instead of in a store, 28GB download! But they were good and pre-loaded it a few days before release so it didn't matter to me.
I'm starting to really get into the customizability. Take your gun, search for parts, replace all the components, and have a supergun by the end. I probably lost a full two days of work since it came out as I sneak in some playtime here and there. :blush:
Quote from: mhughes on November 21, 2015, 11:22:33 AM
Wow, sorry to hear about your problems, I've been playing since release day and only encountered one minor problem with the settlements thing. I bought it via steam instead of in a store, 28GB download! But they were good and pre-loaded it a few days before release so it didn't matter to me.
I'm starting to really get into the customizability. Take your gun, search for parts, replace all the components, and have a supergun by the end. I probably lost a full two days of work since it came out as I sneak in some playtime here and there. :blush:
I heard Steam downloads were the way to go, considering the DVD was pressed weeks in advance.
Do a search of Fallout 4 sound issues, I was shocked at the amount of fixes people were coming up with, and not one has worked so far.
But like I said, the game really is a work of art in all it's varying degrees of customization, from game play to weapons to taming wildlife, hacking bots or setting traps, it's all good.
I made the mistake of accidentally shooting the mayor with a nuke when I first entered Diamond city, it took days for them to forget me. OOPS... :rolleyes:
I did say accident, right? I'm about to nuke the blimp and see what kind of havoc it raises, accidentally, of course. :biggrin:
Can't you buy an installation DVD or CD for the new game?
Quote from: cubedemon on November 21, 2015, 11:40:37 AM
Can't you buy an installation DVD or CD for the new game?
I did, that's the problem.
On the day I was going to buy it, I watched the intro-walkthrough on youtube... You basically collect the dog and a Mr. Gusty-type robot-companion (your former housekeeper) virtually immediately after you leave the Vault. That's ridiculous.
Then if you travel in the direction you're sort-of persuaded to go, you theoretically obtain heavy-armor and a heavy-gun without really doing anything.
In Fallout 3, you had to grind and grind, working hard to achieve everything. And you have to 'discover' the dog's location randomly. Not early, when you don't have any power.
Other than that, Fallout 4's open map looks spectacular. I'm still going to buy the game.
Quote from: kit saginaw on November 21, 2015, 05:53:45 PM
On the day I was going to buy it, I watched the intro-walkthrough on youtube... You basically collect the dog and a Mr. Gusty-type robot-companion (your former housekeeper) virtually immediately after you leave the Vault. That's ridiculous.
Then if you travel in the direction you're sort-of persuaded to go, you theoretically obtain heavy-armor and a heavy-gun without really doing anything.
In Fallout 3, you had to grind and grind, working hard to achieve everything. And you have to 'discover' the dog's location randomly. Not early, when you don't have any power.
Other than that, Fallout 4's open map looks spectacular. I'm still going to buy the game.
That armor lasted me one good fire fight, after that I abandoned it so I could run better.
As much as I love dogs, I really could do without, which is why I told him to stay and went on without him, he tends to trip booby traps all the time, causing you to exhaust your supply of stimpacks.
All in all it's a good game, but what I honestly find tiring is building Sim cities for the lost citizens.
Houses, beds, toilets, wells, generators, it gets tedious after awhile.
The power armor is very different than previous games. The fusion cores, the fuel for them, are very rare in the beginning of the game. You simply can't strap it on and do the whole game in it. It's for taking out when you hit a really hard mission you can't get by. Like Solar said, it's big, clunky, and slow. The cool thing is there are a ton of upgrade options for it. So you get a basic set at the beginning, and you can keep upgrading it throughout the game as you find things. I've one main suit in my main base sitting next to two half disassembled suits next to it I've stripped for parts. Tip: Don't leave a fusion core in it. If you settlement gets attacked, one of the settlers will strap it on and leave it somewhere when they're done.
Ammo is rare too. You won't find many 5mm shells for that minigun and it chews through them quick.
The dog sucks. My favorite companions so far: Nick Valentine and Strong
I want this game for Christmas.
Quote from: cubedemon on November 22, 2015, 08:16:06 AM
I want this game for Christmas.
The younger generation.
QuoteI want this game for Christmas
The older generation.
I will work overtime or weekends to get this game by next weekend.
Quote from: walkstall on November 22, 2015, 08:37:37 AM
The younger generation.
The older generation.
I will work overtime or weekends to get this game by next weekend.
Never said I was going to get it or believe anyone should get it for me. I just said I desired it. I'll be happy and appreciative if someone gave it to me or I had the opportunity to work hard at over time to get it but if I can't get it then I can't get it. Getting this game is not on the highest list of my priorities.
Functioning in society and making a living is. Doesn't mean I don't have wants or desires.
If what I said came across negatively and offended you; I did not mean to offend.
Quote from: cubedemon on November 22, 2015, 08:59:20 AM
Never said I was going to get it or believe anyone should get it for me. I just said I desired it. I'll be happy and appreciative if someone gave it to me or I had the opportunity to work hard at over time to get it but if I can't get it then I can't get it. Getting this game is not on the highest list of my priorities.
Functioning in society and making a living is. Doesn't mean I don't have wants or desires.
There is always work out there. It may not be what you like or think you should have. But it's out there for you. I see Help Wanted signs every time I go into town in windows. You may not like the work/job but it's a paycheck until you find what you like if you can.
Quote from: walkstall on November 22, 2015, 09:23:34 AM
There is always work out there. It may not be what you like or think you should have. But it's out there for you. I see Help Wanted signs every time I go into town in windows. You may not like the work/job but it's a paycheck until you find what you like if you can.
I will be going to community support services and try again with that(It's been difficult for me to get the ball rolling on that front). In other words, I will have to be in supported employment as a developmentally delayed disabled person. This is what is best for me.
Quote from: cubedemon on November 22, 2015, 10:18:00 AM
I will be going to community support services and try again with that(It's been difficult for me to get the ball rolling on that front). In other words, I will have to be in supported employment as a developmentally delayed disabled person. This is what is best for me.
So your going to live on the government (working taxpayer) the rest of your live. Must be nice have someone paying for your computer and internet, on the taxpayer. There was a day when a disabled person got a job themselves. As long as that government check keep coming in,
why do something for yourself.
Quote from: cubedemon on November 22, 2015, 10:18:00 AM
I will be going to community support services and try again with that(It's been difficult for me to get the ball rolling on that front). In other words, I will have to be in supported employment as a developmentally delayed disabled person. This is what is best for me.
Stick to the OP, OK.
Good game though there are several things that makes it a disappointment.
The first thing is Kit Saginaw's point about the gear. Getting the minigun at the start takes away a lot of the "grind" to become a powerful fighting behemoth. Yeah the ammunition is scarce but the economy is so exploitable with theft you have basically unlimited funds to purchase unlimited ammo. I like the new fusion cores for the power armor though, but getting the power armor fight at the beginning removed a lot of the suspense for me, but that is just a minor issue or possibly nostalgia. I still remember drooling over a power armor in Fallout 1 that seemed unobtainable at that time.
The second thing about the gear is all the legendary trash you find, that you can't strip for parts. I would have been fine with getting my inventory full of legendary items 20min after leaving my home base if I could strip them for parts, but legendary items are worse than trash a few hours into the game, and for a gear hunter this was extremely sad. I love collecting lots of gear but this "unique" items is just out of place. Why would a raider have a cryo modified pipe pistol?
The game is also waaay too easy once you get medium tier weapons, and legendary only makes fight longer because the legendary enemies heal themselves full HP once they are down 20% hp or something. But because you get power armor and unlimited money to buy best weps so early I was super sledge smacking my way through super mutants without any problem after a few hours.
The drugs, it is fun to use the drugs but because they have no bad side effect you can basically get Godmode 100% of the fights if you want.
Also another point that goes back to what Solar wrote if I understand him correctly, it doesn't matter what you do. People forgive you for everything, they just go unconscious for a moment after a fight. Which also ruins the immersion, being in a fire fight having my trade caravans walk past me right in the middle of super mutant territory in godmode because they can't die just ruined all immersion for me. Also the fact that you can bring in super mutants and synths on the BoS airship or Base ruins the immersion.
Ok rant off, yes its a good game, but it really only makes me want to play Fallout 2 (would play fallout 3 again but have done everything too many times in it). Will say one more thing though, I liked that BoS has returned to it's root with being intolerant assholes, but it is also strange that they don't even check if their members is synths. Especially since they have a lot of medical check ups and combat medical treatment.....
Quote from: Mountainshield on December 23, 2015, 03:47:53 AM
Good game though there are several things that makes it a disappointment.
The first thing is Kit Saginaw's point about the gear. Getting the minigun at the start takes away a lot of the "grind" to become a powerful fighting behemoth. Yeah the ammunition is scarce but the economy is so exploitable with theft you have basically unlimited funds to purchase unlimited ammo. I like the new fusion cores for the power armor though, but getting the power armor fight at the beginning removed a lot of the suspense for me, but that is just a minor issue or possibly nostalgia. I still remember drooling over a power armor in Fallout 1 that seemed unobtainable at that time.
The second thing about the gear is all the legendary trash you find, that you can't strip for parts. I would have been fine with getting my inventory full of legendary items 20min after leaving my home base if I could strip them for parts, but legendary items are worse than trash a few hours into the game, and for a gear hunter this was extremely sad. I love collecting lots of gear but this "unique" items is just out of place. Why would a raider have a cryo modified pipe pistol?
The game is also waaay too easy once you get medium tier weapons, and legendary only makes fight longer because the legendary enemies heal themselves full HP once they are down 20% hp or something. But because you get power armor and unlimited money to buy best weps so early I was super sledge smacking my way through super mutants without any problem after a few hours.
The drugs, it is fun to use the drugs but because they have no bad side effect you can basically get Godmode 100% of the fights if you want.
Also another point that goes back to what Solar wrote if I understand him correctly, it doesn't matter what you do. People forgive you for everything, they just go unconscious for a moment after a fight. Which also ruins the immersion, being in a fire fight having my trade caravans walk past me right in the middle of super mutant territory in godmode because they can't die just ruined all immersion for me. Also the fact that you can bring in super mutants and synths on the BoS airship or Base ruins the immersion.
Ok rant off, yes its a good game, but it really only makes me want to play Fallout 2 (would play fallout 3 again but have done everything too many times in it). Will say one more thing though, I liked that BoS has returned to it's root with being intolerant assholes, but it is also strange that they don't even check if their members is synths. Especially since they have a lot of medical check ups and combat medical treatment.....
Concur, and that only scratches the surface.
Finished it last week, and will pick it up again next month and try for a new ending.
The one nice thing about the game is how it slowly reveals new shit, even when I was near the end of the game, new crap emerged, even after completion, I wandered in TCL mode only to discover things with no connection to any quest.
Would have been cool to discover them early in the game.
One other point I found frustrating was the lack of clues for any given quest, or reason for doing it in the first place. EG, memory den, I sat in that damn chair for 10 minutes before I realized you were supposed to walk into the abyss, then like a snail following a garden hose only to connect to another long ass hose, never once being instructed as to what you were doing.
I despise AI cutaways or movement speed restrictions.
All in all, it's a pretty entertaining game. I found the romance aspect to be an interesting avenue, one no other game had ventured to pursue, and they did a good job, but that was only good for a short time, and now Cait is just another tag along pest that constantly gets in the way, gives me away to the enemy, whines like a lib and is essentially worthless.
One thing they kick ass on is openworld format, wish all games did that.