My response to James Watson Refuses to cuck

Started by alienhand, January 16, 2019, 07:25:09 PM

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Quote from: supsalemgr on January 25, 2019, 11:51:33 AM
Pure BS and avoidance of answering the question.

No, it not BS and avoidance of answering the question.  If we go by the creator theory more specifically God of the Bible it is God who owns all since he created all.  He is the right and divine ruler and owner of all.  We're simply his tenants and stewards of what he owns. Being that, he allows us to keep a certain amount.  The amount that does not belong to you belongs to Cesar and to God.  And, God the creator has dictated to all of us what we're to do with his portion of what we're to give to him which is to clothe the naked, feed the hungry, heal the sick, etc, etc.  And, to bring others into his Kingdom so others can do the same thing if it is possible for them to do. 

I have been deemed sick by the government, employers and society in general.  I'm receiving my SSDI b/c Caesar in this case is being obedient to God and so have others through their payment to Caesar.   And, b/c people are following God's command to render onto Caesar to what is Caesar's and render unto God to which is God's and I'm receiving what God has deemed me to receive I can't be a thief. 

I wrote this as secular reason as to why receiving SSDI and taxation in general can't be theft as libertarians and conservatives seem to claim. 

I think it is time to knock down the taxation is theft bullshit that both conservatives and libertarians have. Here is my counter-argument. Thievery implies that what was supposedly stolen from you was yours in the first place. I say it is not. The income you receive through your labors is not all yours to keep. Unless the society is similar to the Soviet Union or North Korea mainly in which one is not allowed to leave by being in and participating in society you give consent to be taxed. In other words, your consent is implicit. In a participatory, representative democracy, constitutional republic, etc you agree to how the elections and votes will turn out if the election is free of fraud and it is fair. It is called the social contract. In other words, you agree to socialism and welfare by your choice to be in and participate in society as long as your are allowed to leave.

Societies cannot and do not require a unanimous agreement by all of the citizenry before a policy, law or action takes place. Before we had the US constitution we had what was called the Articles of Confederation. The central government under that could get nothing done b/c the articles required unanimous agreement to pass any law or policy including payments of war debts. Some of the colonies at the time were refusing to pay the war debts so the debts were never paid. B/c the failure of the articles of confederation established that unanimous agreement was impossible a system had to be created which is what I call a representative agreement. And this had checks and balances. And, it was a check against the masses as well. The US constitution didn't require unanimous agreement and consent. By the states and people agreeing to this unanimous consent is not required and you agree to however the votes come out under certain conditions so we wouldn't have tyranny of the masses.

Another thing, the original colonists weren't against taxation but were against taxation without representation. B/c communication was slow (I mean you had a vast ocean between the Americas and Europe) and there was no radio the colonists were left on their own for a long time. They had to be self-sufficient. Overtime, they came to view themselves as their own people. When England started hitting them with taxes like the stamp act or the tea act they felt like they had no vote or representation in that vote. In other words, conservatives and libertarians are full of shit and don't really understand colonial history as well as they think they do.

We have representation today in our society supposedly. I will say we do have our issues including denying some people their vote through bullshit practices like how some places get the good voting machines while others get poor machines and people who don't know what they're doing to be the clerks. It is conservatives who do shit like this.

So, conservatives and libertarians are the most hypocritical bastards there is.

alienhand

Quote from: Solar on January 25, 2019, 11:03:45 AM
IDIOT!!!
When have I ever suggested you break the law?
Now cut the shit! Get a job, any damn job!!!

Well, when you say I'm allowed to have any candy out of a candy jar you never said what kind(s) of candy I'm allowed to have Solar.   

When you say get a job, any damn job you never said what kind of job one is allowed to have.  Pretending that jobs are candy and legal jobs are one type of candy and illegal jobs are another kind you never specified only legal jobs so by lack of specification it implies that you suggest I break the law. 

Now, if I'm an idiot as you called me Solar as demonstrated here through not understanding your communication and if others speak similarly to you then how can I be expected to interpret the personality test questions properly, interview questions properly, socially network properly with mangers, selecting officials and others and sell myself to employers and customers in a meaningful way? 

So, if I'm an idiot and fool as demonstrated then you all have to accept beyond a shadow of a doubt that in order for me to function in both obtaining and keeping a job I need considerable amount of assistance and guidance. 

I think it was Samuel Clemens aka Mark Twain who said 'It is better for a man to remain silent and appear a fool, then to open his mouth and remove all doubt.'

But, what if I believe myself to be a fool and an idiot (which you said I was which I acknowledge and accept as true) and I need guidance and things broken down to both increase my understanding of the things in the heavens, on the Earth and the ground below?

Solar

Quote from: alienhand on February 10, 2019, 01:33:13 AM
Well, when you say I'm allowed to have any candy out of a candy jar you never said what kind(s) of candy I'm allowed to have Solar.   

When you say get a job, any damn job you never said what kind of job one is allowed to have.  Pretending that jobs are candy and legal jobs are one type of candy and illegal jobs are another kind you never specified only legal jobs so by lack of specification it implies that you suggest I break the law. 

Now, if I'm an idiot as you called me Solar as demonstrated here through not understanding your communication and if others speak similarly to you then how can I be expected to interpret the personality test questions properly, interview questions properly, socially network properly with mangers, selecting officials and others and sell myself to employers and customers in a meaningful way? 

So, if I'm an idiot and fool as demonstrated then you all have to accept beyond a shadow of a doubt that in order for me to function in both obtaining and keeping a job I need considerable amount of assistance and guidance. 

I think it was Samuel Clemens aka Mark Twain who said 'It is better for a man to remain silent and appear a fool, then to open his mouth and remove all doubt.'

But, what if I believe myself to be a fool and an idiot (which you said I was which I acknowledge and accept as true) and I need guidance and things broken down to both increase my understanding of the things in the heavens, on the Earth and the ground below?
Reading back through this thread, and your need to selectively quote to spin your bull shit excuses exposes your lies that you are too disabled to work.
Hell, you could write fiction all fucking day long, even a "How To" for getting out of work, being a productive member of society, manual.
Your ability to parse and spin exposes your lies, your ability to dance around a point shows you are a skilled liar.

The preceding page nails your ass to the wall, yet you are clever enough to balance the fine line of liar and fraud when crafting your replies/excuses.
Bottom-line here is, you have been exposed as a fraud, one that has learned the craft of deception, even to the point of convincing themselves that they are unemployable, just to stay on the public dole.
Live your lie, but don't expect anyone here to buy your BS that you're unemployable the way you have the govt, because no one here has fallen for it, and your litany of posts proves this point through your ability to avoid certain points, and craft a post to say what you want it to say and reply accordingly.
This is known as moving the goalpost.

The only thing you've managed to accomplish here, is that you've mastered the craft of pathological liar that uses his afflictions to convince others he's unemployable.
Think about that, your ability for avoidance is a skill all its own, in fact, if your social worker was to ever become aware of your posts,, you'd be forced to take a job.
That's right, they would see right through your facade you wear like a cloke of invincibility.

Oh, I don't doubt you have disabilities, I also know you've found a way to make it work for you to the point it keeps you from actually having to wok for a living.
Your lack of remorse/conscience, has become your weapon of choice in not having to live with the guilt most would feel, for not becoming a producing member of society.
You fooled govt social workers, but your posts expose the real you, and that person fools no one here any longer. Shame is not a part of your makeup.
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Quote from: Solar on February 10, 2019, 06:45:06 AM
Reading back through this thread, and your need to selectively quote to spin your bull shit excuses exposes your lies that you are too disabled to work.
Hell, you could write fiction all fucking day long, even a "How To" for getting out of work, being a productive member of society, manual.
Your ability to parse and spin exposes your lies, your ability to dance around a point shows you are a skilled liar.

The preceding page nails your ass to the wall, yet you are clever enough to balance the fine line of liar and fraud when crafting your replies/excuses.
Bottom-line here is, you have been exposed as a fraud, one that has learned the craft of deception, even to the point of convincing themselves that they are unemployable, just to stay on the public dole.
Live your lie, but don't expect anyone here to buy your BS that you're unemployable the way you have the govt, because no one here has fallen for it, and your litany of posts proves this point through your ability to avoid certain points, and craft a post to say what you want it to say and reply accordingly.
This is known as moving the goalpost.

The only thing you've managed to accomplish here, is that you've mastered the craft of pathological liar that uses his afflictions to convince others he's unemployable.
Think about that, your ability for avoidance is a skill all its own, in fact, if your social worker was to ever become aware of your posts,, you'd be forced to take a job.
That's right, they would see right through your facade you wear like a cloke of invincibility.

Oh, I don't doubt you have disabilities, I also know you've found a way to make it work for you to the point it keeps you from actually having to wok for a living.
Your lack of remorse/conscience, has become your weapon of choice in not having to live with the guilt most would feel, for not becoming a producing member of society.
You fooled govt social workers, but your posts expose the real you, and that person fools no one here any longer. Shame is not a part of your makeup.

I believe he is working the system. If he is on SS Disability he is limited in how much he can earn. Consequently, he has chosen not to break out of the disability trap and play on the system as a victim. It is time to let him wallow in his own mess.
"If you can't run with the big dawgs, stay on the porch!"

Solar

Quote from: supsalemgr on February 10, 2019, 08:01:26 AM
I believe he is working the system. If he is on SS Disability he is limited in how much he can earn. Consequently, he has chosen not to break out of the disability trap and play on the system as a victim. It is time to let him wallow in his own mess.
Bottom-line is, he's a coward.
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1.  It is impossible to believe one's own lies.  I've heard this before from others about others and it is one of the biggest bunco I've ever heard.  Let's say a child takes and eats a cookie from the cookie jar when he is not supposed to.   He knows he did what he was not supposed to do.  His parents question him about it and he lies about it.  You're telling me this kid will believe he didn't actually take the cookie even though he knows he took it.  How?  How in the fuck does this make any sense?

2.  I've read the article you posted on here about the hidden returning to work.   The amount on the SSDI rolls is still 8,500,000 down from 9,000,000 since 2014.  So, only 5.6% were able to get off of SSDI?  How in the hell is that even significant?

3.  For those who were kicked off of SSDI, how many actually returned to work?  What exactly is the suicide rate?  Hasn't it gone up since about 2014?

Solar am I a liar or is it that you live in your own myopic  world  who really doesn't like to have his world view challenged?   Even the structure of your whole forum including entry to it has all kinds of security and stupid questions so you and your friends live in this world without any kind of critical thought at all. 

Solar

Quote from: alienhand on February 11, 2019, 09:47:23 PM
1.  It is impossible to believe one's own lies.  I've heard this before from others about others and it is one of the biggest bunco I've ever heard.  Let's say a child takes and eats a cookie from the cookie jar when he is not supposed to.   He knows he did what he was not supposed to do.  His parents question him about it and he lies about it.  You're telling me this kid will believe he didn't actually take the cookie even though he knows he took it.  How?  How in the fuck does this make any sense?

2.  I've read the article you posted on here about the hidden returning to work.   The amount on the SSDI rolls is still 8,500,000 down from 9,000,000 since 2014.  So, only 5.6% were able to get off of SSDI?  How in the hell is that even significant?

3.  For those who were kicked off of SSDI, how many actually returned to work?  What exactly is the suicide rate?  Hasn't it gone up since about 2014?

Solar am I a liar or is it that you live in your own myopic  world  who really doesn't like to have his world view challenged?   Even the structure of your whole forum including entry to it has all kinds of security and stupid questions so you and your friends live in this world without any kind of critical thought at all.
A couple of things here.
One, you have the ability to in maneuvering through a questionnaire designed to keep libs out, yes, idiots can't enter. You have the ability to articulate your message better than the average min wage worker, yet you claim you're unemployable, you've even gone out and started your own page to whine about your personal problems. That alone is quite an accomplishment for more than half the people in the US. But....
No one gives a fuck! What people see is someone spending all their time defending their stupidity, instead of getting off the damned computer and using this time to pursue any form of employment.

Point is, no one gives a fuck about you, not even those who claim to be your advocates, you are the only one on this planet that can make a difference in your life, so quit coming on here, thinking the world evolves around you, and that, for some odd reason you found it necessary to to include us in your fuckin drama is beyond me.
We were led to believe you sought help, but that was all a lie, you were in search of sympathy, all because those paid to help you got tired of the excuses and lies. (you manipulated the system well enough to get money out of it)

This is your world, you created it, live in it, but don't expect anyone here to listen to your bullshit any longer since you've exposed yourself as a fraud and a lazy ass liar who would rather sit on the computer and question others lives, than live their own.

Unless you have something political in nature to discuss, don't post! Derail another thread and make it about you or any BS related shit, Walks has the authority to ban you on the spot. But your whiny lies are no longer welcome here.

You made your own bed, lie in it!!!
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