My response to James Watson Refuses to cuck

Started by alienhand, January 16, 2019, 07:25:09 PM

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Since it seems like presenting counter-arguments are considered derailing a thread around here anytime I have a counter argument I will present it in a new thread in The Nut House.

http://conservativepoliticalforum.com/the-nut-house/james-watson-refuses-to-cuck/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bell_Curve

https://brainstats.com/average-iq-by-country.html

If the wiki article about the book called the bell curve which racists(or is it racialists) love to quote from and the brainstats are true and accurate then it seems like the asian countries tend more towards having the higher IQs even higher then those from European countries. 

If we're going to go by white racist logic with all of the "white power" bullshit then Asians are the superior race.  It seems like the racists tend to gloss over this part.  Hmmm, I wonder why.

Solar

Quote from: alienhand on January 16, 2019, 07:25:09 PM
Since it seems like presenting counter-arguments are considered derailing a thread around here anytime I have a counter argument I will present it in a new thread in The Nut House.

http://conservativepoliticalforum.com/the-nut-house/james-watson-refuses-to-cuck/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bell_Curve

https://brainstats.com/average-iq-by-country.html

If the wiki article about the book called the bell curve which racists(or is it racialists) love to quote from and the brainstats are true and accurate then it seems like the asian countries tend more towards having the higher IQs even higher then those from European countries. 

If we're going to go by white racist logic with all of the "white power" bullshit then Asians are the superior race.  It seems like the racists tend to gloss over this part.  Hmmm, I wonder why.
So you're a racist? I have never heard that from any of the white supremacist groups, or are you privy to insider info?
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Quote from: Solar on January 16, 2019, 07:52:49 PM
So you're a racist? I have never heard that from any of the white supremacist groups, or are you privy to insider info?

No, not a racist.

It's not insider info if it is out there. 

Point is, if the racists like James Watson is going to promote their bullshit like The Bell Curve the Book as truth then let's promote all of the aspects as truth.  Point is, racists like David Duke and James Watson want to promote one aspect of their truth without promoting the other aspect of the truth. 

Even if they're right that Blacks are the inferior race (which I don't accept to be true) then according to the studies by the scientists and statisticians they love then they have to accept that whites are an inferior race as well (I don't accept this either). 

Point is be consistent with your BS.  Let's not lie by omission. 


Solar

Quote from: alienhand on January 16, 2019, 08:06:04 PM
No, not a racist.
Then gullible.

QuoteIt's not insider info if it is out there.
Then show me where with recent documented proof white supremacists claim Asians are inferior.
I'm in no way defending these knuckle dragging hate mongers, I demand for the reader, proof of your claims.
Most racists just hate, they have no validation for their hate, they are just ignorant bigots.

QuotePoint is, if the racists like James Watson is going to promote their bullshit like The Bell Curve the Book as truth then let's promote all of the aspects as truth.  Point is, racists like David Duke and James Watson want to promote one aspect of their truth without promoting the other aspect of the truth. 
So now you're linking the guy that discovered the double helix in with simple lowlife?
His work is based on stats, sadly, these stats do not include talent, be it physical or even musical, or even emotional, they run on a strict set of values, I do not agree with.

QuoteEven if they're right that Blacks are the inferior race (which I don't accept to be true) then according to the studies by the scientists and statisticians they love then they have to accept that whites are an inferior race as well (I don't accept this either). 
I think using the "Intelligence Quotient" as a ruler is, by itself a lie. I have tested genius level, but I can be the dumbest in many areas of intellect, be it math or linguistics, so I believe measuring IQ with strict standards is akin to measuring ones worth on how much money they've attained. Total BS on every level.
But Watson is a scientist and he uses the strict measure of "IQ", because that is what the scientific community works with.

QuotePoint is be consistent with your BS.  Let's not lie by omission.
Oh, please do explain. I don't mean a damn thesis, I want evidence of your bull shit!
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Quote from: Solar on January 16, 2019, 08:41:03 PM

Then show me where with recent documented proof white supremacists claim Asians are inferior.


:ohmy: :ohmy: :ohmy: :ohmy:

Oh my goodness gracious!  Seriously!  What the living fuck?   You want proof that white supremacists claim Asians are inferior.  I can't even believe I'm even reading this.   Have you not been to KKK websites or sites like storm front.  Have you not even heard any of their speeches about racial purity, white pride, etc?  Have you not even heard of Matt Hale who used to run what was called The World Church of the Creator?  All you have to do is go out there and listen to what they say.

Now, let me give it to you by analytical instead of synthetic.   

And, the root word of supremacist I believe is supreme.  Supreme means to be above something.  A supremacist is a person who believes they're above or greater then something.  A white supremacist believes their race is above and greater then the other races. 

You're pulling my leg right.  You want proof that white supremacists claim Asians are inferior.  I haven't had this much of a laugh in a long time.   Now, do I have to prove that water is wet :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Quote from: Solar on January 16, 2019, 08:41:03 PM
I'm in no way defending these knuckle dragging hate mongers, I demand for the reader, proof of your claims.

I certainly hope you don't defend these guys.  Again, as for proof.  The proof is in the pudding.  Now, since you demand I prove something that even through the very definition itself says is true I think you ought to be able to prove your collective theory of God and that we come from this "collective."   And, you're the guy who says that all definitions past the 19th century are worthless since they were made by "liberals" including the word computer which means no word or definition can be used past the 19th century.  I thought I was mentally fucked up and I still believe I am but you sir take the cake with some of your delusions and paranoia. 

Quote from: Solar on January 16, 2019, 08:41:03 PM
Most racists just hate, they have no validation for their hate, they are just ignorant bigots.

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Quote from: Solar on January 16, 2019, 08:41:03 PM
So now you're linking the guy that discovered the double helix in with simple lowlife?

What do you think these low lives will do? 

Quote from: Solar on January 16, 2019, 08:41:03 PM
His work is based on stats, sadly, these stats do not include talent, be it physical or even musical, or even emotional, they run on a strict set of values, I do not agree with.

I don't agree with these strict set of values either.  I get the sense that IQ doesn't tell the whole story for the person as well as a group. 

Quote from: Solar on January 16, 2019, 08:41:03 PM

I think using the "Intelligence Quotient" as a ruler is, by itself a lie. I have tested genius level, but I can be the dumbest in many areas of intellect, be it math or linguistics, so I believe measuring IQ with strict standards is akin to measuring ones worth on how much money they've attained. Total BS on every level.


I'm definitely not a genius.  When I took this IQ test in Kindergarten I scored a 78 on it.

http://www.wilderdom.com/intelligence/IQWhatScoresMean.html

Acording to this I was Borderline Deficiency.  Probably in the mild retarded range.

But, what is weird is every-time I took this test I scored higher.  When I went on SSDI and they gave this IQ test as part of the series of tests I had to take to be approved for SSDI I scored 98.  The test I took a year ago I scored 108.

But, even with the improvements in IQ I still have significant challenges so much so they impair me in a number of ways.  Worst for me is executive functioning.  Second worse for me is communication issues.  Third is motor coordination issues. <<<Imagine Steve Urkel. 

Quote from: Solar on January 16, 2019, 08:41:03 PM
But Watson is a scientist and he uses the strict measure of "IQ", because that is what the scientific community works with.
Oh, please do explain. I don't mean a damn thesis, I want evidence of your bull shit!

Like I said, proof is in the pudding.  And, again all you have to do is listen to what they say. 
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Solar

Quote from: alienhand on January 16, 2019, 09:32:13 PM
:ohmy: :ohmy: :ohmy: :ohmy:

Oh my goodness gracious!  Seriously!  What the living fuck?   You want proof that white supremacists claim Asians are inferior.  I can't even believe I'm even reading this.   Have you not been to KKK websites or sites like storm front.  Have you not even heard any of their speeches about racial purity, white pride, etc?  Have you not even heard of Matt Hale who used to run what was called The World Church of the Creator?  All you have to do is go out there and listen to what they say.

Now, let me give it to you by analytical instead of synthetic.   

And, the root word of supremacist I believe is supreme.  Supreme means to be above something.  A supremacist is a person who believes they're above or greater then something.  A white supremacist believes their race is above and greater then the other races. 

You're pulling my leg right.  You want proof that white supremacists claim Asians are inferior.  I haven't had this much of a laugh in a long time.   Now, do I have to prove that water is wet :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Done looking like a fool yet?

I don't know if it's a comprehension issue or you're just stupid, but there is a reason I said "recent documented proof white supremacists claim Asians are inferior." because to my knowledge, theses hate groups recognize these races intellect, that's not what bothers them, they simply want to be the "Supreme Ruling Race" as in, white "Supremacists".
So cut the Bull Shit cackling and show me your proof, or STFU!

QuoteI certainly hope you don't defend these guys.  Again, as for proof.  The proof is in the pudding.  Now, since you demand I prove something that even through the very definition itself says is true I think you ought to be able to prove your collective theory of God and that we come from this "collective."   And, you're the guy who says that all definitions past the 19th century are worthless since they were made by "liberals" including the word computer which means no word or definition can be used past the 19th century.  I thought I was mentally fucked up and I still believe I am but you sir take the cake with some of your delusions and paranoia. 

And here, I thought you were done showing your ignorance. Obviously not.

QuoteWhat do you think these low lives will do?
Herein lies my issue with the Intelligence Quotient, I believe it is racist, may have been by design, but whatever, it doesn't recognize the law of the jungle type intelligence,, the ability for one to adapt to any given situation, be it survival in a city, or alone on an island, it takes a unique intellect to adapt and survive, literally the measure of ones smarts.
Did the IQ test purposefully ignore the most important aspect of intelligence on purpose, or did these so called "Elites" simply want to make themselves look smarter.
Go to a Mensa meeting, then go to a hate group meeting, I think you'll find many common shared traits between the two.


QuoteI don't agree with these strict set of values either.  I get the sense that IQ doesn't tell the whole story for the person as well as a group. 

I'm definitely not a genius.  When I took this IQ test in Kindergarten I scored a 78 on it.

http://www.wilderdom.com/intelligence/IQWhatScoresMean.html

Acording to this I was Borderline Deficiency.  Probably in the mild retarded range.
If I'm not mistaken, 78 for a 5 year old is on par with normal in many of the other tests.

QuoteBut, what is weird is every-time I took this test I scored higher.  When I went on SSDI and they gave this IQ test as part of the series of tests I had to take to be approved for SSDI I scored 98.  The test I took a year ago I scored 108.

But, even with the improvements in IQ I still have significant challenges so much so they impair me in a number of ways.  Worst for me is executive functioning.  Second worse for me is communication issues.  Third is motor coordination issues. <<<Imagine Steve Urkel. 

Like I said, proof is in the pudding.  And, again all you have to do is listen to what they say.
If you want to believe a test can actually measure your abilities, that's your choice, like I said, I rated high genius, and sure, I'm smart "in certain areas", but I'm also an equal idiot in other areas, so I don't give any credibility to a test that has such a narrow focus on what a certain group of self absorbed assholes decided what would be considered the smartest among us.
Think about that, a group of people that seldom, if ever, left the protected halls of an office, are deciding who has is the smartest using a narrow measure, would never have considered including suitability during catastrophe.
Why? Because they were too stupid to survive on their own beyond their self made world,  and by including jungle skills would have lowered their own IQ scores.
There is no method in their test that can measure ones ability too recognize danger, or how too assess ones ability to recognize a trap has been set for them, say a disturbed area in the earth, or certain branches broken at varying heights.
An IQ test does not even attempt this area of measure, because theses idiots thought man was beyond the need.

These people are, by nature, racists. But whether Watson knowingly shared their belief? He proved using their methods, with his data that his theory was correct. Problem is, the parameters for measure have always been flawed in favor of elite racists.

What if Asians had originally set the parameters for IQ? This race of people do not use the written word, they use pictures to write, English speaking people would be at a disadvantage from the start.
Point is, the IQ test is but one tiny tool where judging ones intellect is concerned, maybe a 10% measure of credibility should be applied when using it as a measure.

I'm not going to search it out, but I bet if you were to search "IQ test racially biased", or racist, you'll find a lot of work has been done on the subject.

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Quote from: Solar on January 17, 2019, 07:02:12 AM
Done looking like a fool yet?

I don't know if it's a comprehension issue or you're just stupid, but there is a reason I said "recent documented proof white supremacists claim Asians are inferior." because to my knowledge, theses hate groups recognize these races intellect, that's not what bothers them, they simply want to be the "Supreme Ruling Race" as in, white "Supremacists".
So cut the Bull Shit cackling and show me your proof, or STFU!


I do have comprehension issues.  It's one of the reasons I have difficulty understanding the employer's personality test questions sometimes and other spoken and written communications and processing problems.  Remember, you're dealing with a disabled person.

Anyway, You said they do recognize these races intellect.  I'm going to see if I can try to confirm this. If you're right then I learned something new. 

It is very interesting how you think vs how I think on ignorance and foolish.  I would rather say something dumb (not anything that'd get me hurt or arrested), called out on it, look dumb and then become a bit more smart and wise from it. 

You seem to believe "Better to Remain Silent and Be Thought a Fool than to Speak and Remove All Doubt"

I have never understood this.  If one remains silent, doesn't say or ask stupid shit how does one learn anything.  If one stays silent then I only have my thoughts and understanding of things.  I only have my own point of view.  Sometimes, the other person can give me another way to think about something.  Do you understand.

Quote from: Solar on January 17, 2019, 07:02:12 AM
And here, I thought you were done showing your ignorance. Obviously not.

see above

Quote from: Solar on January 17, 2019, 07:02:12 AM
Herein lies my issue with the Intelligence Quotient, I believe it is racist, may have been by design, but whatever, it doesn't recognize the law of the jungle type intelligence,, the ability for one to adapt to any given situation, be it survival in a city, or alone on an island, it takes a unique intellect to adapt and survive, literally the measure of ones smarts.

Interesting way to see it!  I do wonder if I could survive on a deserted island on my own.  Maybe learn certain basics 1st.  It would test to see if it was my disabilities were hindering me, society was or if it was my own fears.

Quote from: Solar on January 17, 2019, 07:02:12 AM
Did the IQ test purposefully ignore the most important aspect of intelligence on purpose, or did these so called "Elites" simply want to make themselves look smarter.

I don't know.  I would have to look it up.
Quote from: Solar on January 17, 2019, 07:02:12 AM

Go to a Mensa meeting, then go to a hate group meeting, I think you'll find many common shared traits between the two.

If either let me in.


Quote from: Solar on January 17, 2019, 07:02:12 AM
If I'm not mistaken, 78 for a 5 year old is on par with normal in many of the other tests.

Maybe it is. 

Quote from: Solar on January 17, 2019, 07:02:12 AM
If you want to believe a test can actually measure your abilities, that's your choice, like I said, I rated high genius, and sure, I'm smart "in certain areas", but I'm also an equal idiot in other areas, so I don't give any credibility to a test that has such a narrow focus on what a certain group of self absorbed assholes decided what would be considered the smartest among us.

Same with me.  Not a genius though.

Quote from: Solar on January 17, 2019, 07:02:12 AM
Think about that, a group of people that seldom, if ever, left the protected halls of an office, are deciding who has is the smartest using a narrow measure, would never have considered including suitability during catastrophe.

Why? Because they were too stupid to survive on their own beyond their self made world,  and by including jungle skills would have lowered their own IQ scores.

I will say in the back of my house I live at we had a brush fire b/c the stupid building company who owned the land back of us ran out of money.  One of my neighbors banged my door to evacuate.  I got out quick and saw the problem.  The fire was burning the forest behind our houses.  My neighbor's neighbor had a wooden fence.    I realized that I had to contain this fire to the woods until the fire department showed up b/c if I did not it would burn that person's fence, and then his house and then our house by how the fire was traveling. 

I realized I had to wet the grass and soak the neighbor's wooden fence and I and this other lady was to keep the fire contained until the fire department showed. 

I will say that I was completely shocked I even was able to this and everything fell into place as to what I had to do.   I don't know how to describe it to you.  It was like my complete intellect turned off and something took over like I was possessed.  I don't know. 

Quote from: Solar on January 17, 2019, 07:02:12 AM

There is no method in their test that can measure ones ability too recognize danger, or how too assess ones ability to recognize a trap has been set for them, say a disturbed area in the earth, or certain branches broken at varying heights.


I never thought about this.  This is food for thought.

Quote from: Solar on January 17, 2019, 07:02:12 AMAn IQ test does not even attempt this area of measure, because theses idiots thought man was beyond the need.

Man is not beyond this need.

Quote from: Solar on January 17, 2019, 07:02:12 AM

These people are, by nature, racists. But whether Watson knowingly shared their belief? He proved using their methods, with his data that his theory was correct. Problem is, the parameters for measure have always been flawed in favor of elite racists.


I see what you're saying.  I never thought of it.

Quote from: Solar on January 17, 2019, 07:02:12 AM
What if Asians had originally set the parameters for IQ? This race of people do not use the written word, they use pictures to write, English speaking people would be at a disadvantage from the start.


When I think about that, that is so true my friend. 

Quote from: Solar on January 17, 2019, 07:02:12 AM
Point is, the IQ test is but one tiny tool where judging ones intellect is concerned, maybe a 10% measure of credibility should be applied when using it as a measure.

I see what you're saying and again I never thought about that.

Quote from: Solar on January 17, 2019, 07:02:12 AM
I'm not going to search it out, but I bet if you were to search "IQ test racially biased", or racist, you'll find a lot of work has been done on the subject.

When I'm in the mood, I think I will take you up on that.

All of what you've given me is food for thought.   I love that. 

It might seem stupid or foolish to you but if I say something foolish to others sometimes those others will do like you did and call me a moron and show me where I'm wrong.  What I do is I look at the content of what they say and either I say "holy shit I am a moron in this case" or "no, I believe I'm correct on this."  In order to get a bulls-eye on a dart board don't you have to throw the dart?  Do you get where I'm coming from or do you see it as ok this guy is a morn and makes no sense?

Solar

Quote from: alienhand on January 17, 2019, 09:21:38 AM
I do have comprehension issues.  It's one of the reasons I have difficulty understanding the employer's personality test questions sometimes and other spoken and written communications and processing problems.  Remember, you're dealing with a disabled person.

Anyway, You said they do recognize these races intellect.  I'm going to see if I can try to confirm this. If you're right then I learned something new. 

It is very interesting how you think vs how I think on ignorance and foolish.  I would rather say something dumb (not anything that'd get me hurt or arrested), called out on it, look dumb and then become a bit more smart and wise from it. 

You seem to believe "Better to Remain Silent and Be Thought a Fool than to Speak and Remove All Doubt"

I have never understood this.  If one remains silent, doesn't say or ask stupid shit how does one learn anything.  If one stays silent then I only have my thoughts and understanding of things.  I only have my own point of view.  Sometimes, the other person can give me another way to think about something.  Do you understand.

see above

Interesting way to see it!  I do wonder if I could survive on a deserted island on my own.  Maybe learn certain basics 1st.  It would test to see if it was my disabilities were hindering me, society was or if it was my own fears.

I don't know.  I would have to look it up.
If either let me in.


Maybe it is. 

Same with me.  Not a genius though.

I will say in the back of my house I live at we had a brush fire b/c the stupid building company who owned the land back of us ran out of money.  One of my neighbors banged my door to evacuate.  I got out quick and saw the problem.  The fire was burning the forest behind our houses.  My neighbor's neighbor had a wooden fence.    I realized that I had to contain this fire to the woods until the fire department showed up b/c if I did not it would burn that person's fence, and then his house and then our house by how the fire was traveling. 

I realized I had to wet the grass and soak the neighbor's wooden fence and I and this other lady was to keep the fire contained until the fire department showed. 

I will say that I was completely shocked I even was able to this and everything fell into place as to what I had to do.   I don't know how to describe it to you.  It was like my complete intellect turned off and something took over like I was possessed.  I don't know. 

I never thought about this.  This is food for thought.

Man is not beyond this need.

I see what you're saying.  I never thought of it.

When I think about that, that is so true my friend. 

I see what you're saying and again I never thought about that.

When I'm in the mood, I think I will take you up on that.

All of what you've given me is food for thought.   I love that. 

It might seem stupid or foolish to you but if I say something foolish to others sometimes those others will do like you did and call me a moron and show me where I'm wrong.  What I do is I look at the content of what they say and either I say "holy shit I am a moron in this case" or "no, I believe I'm correct on this."  In order to get a bulls-eye on a dart board don't you have to throw the dart?  Do you get where I'm coming from or do you see it as ok this guy is a morn and makes no sense?
There is no such thing as a stupid question. However, asking the question a dozen different ways, hoping for a different answer, is, stupid.
Always question everything, just word your question as genuine and not a conclusion.

The only thing I've observed about you is, you tend to take an extremely myopic approach to issues, while missing the bigger picture. Try not to zero in on a single point, stop and take in everything and try to come to a conclusion before you get lost in the weeds.
Your ability to make a split second decision is proof you over think everything, the fact that you acted on your own, proves you have the ability to think independent of analysis proves you can function.

Work with that, go with your first thought, stop there, it was probably the right conclusion.
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Quote from: Solar on January 17, 2019, 09:51:08 AM
There is no such thing as a stupid question. However, asking the question a dozen different ways, hoping for a different answer, is, stupid.
Always question everything, just word your question as genuine and not a conclusion.

May I have a quick and dirty example as to what to avoid when asking something in the future please?

Quote from: Solar on January 17, 2019, 09:51:08 AM
The only thing I've observed about you is, you tend to take an extremely myopic approach to issues, while missing the bigger picture. Try not to zero in on a single point, stop and take in everything and try to come to a conclusion before you get lost in the weeds.

Are you saying take one point in relation to other points?

Quote from: Solar on January 17, 2019, 09:51:08 AM
Your ability to make a split second decision is proof you over think everything, the fact that you acted on your own, proves you have the ability to think independent of analysis proves you can function.

Work with that, go with your first thought, stop there, it was probably the right conclusion.

I'll do it.

Solar

Quote from: alienhand on January 17, 2019, 11:43:24 AM
May I have a quick and dirty example as to what to avoid when asking something in the future please?
Be genuine when asking, that's all, don't make it condescending, especially if you''re not certain you are right.

QuoteAre you saying take one point in relation to other points?

If you see someone entering a store with a gun in their hand with a mask on, do you think it's a late April fools day joke, or are they up to no good?
Your gut instinct is usually the correct one, but the more you over think it, the more time lost.
Try working with your very first impression on any situation, go with that and stop dwelling on whether there might be something you missed. Because more than likely, your instincts were right the first time.

Part of your issue is, you've had it pounded into you that you are mentally disabled. Drop that shit, we're all mentally disabled to some point, no one is normal, that's what makes us human, otherwise we'd be robots, like bees in a hive.

Want proof? Just look a Hollyweird, these people play pretend for as living, and the media puts them on a pedestal. Take Gwyneth Paltrow, the bimbo actually chastised people for using more than two squares of toilet paper, problem is, she thought everyone owned a heated Bidet and washed their ass with water.
Truth is, she and many of her ilk are complete idiots that couldn't get through life if someone didn't hand them a script. NO ONE IS NORMAL!!! There is no such thing as normal in this day and age.




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Quote from: Solar on January 17, 2019, 12:14:13 PM
Be genuine when asking, that's all, don't make it condescending, especially if you''re not certain you are right.

If you see someone entering a store with a gun in their hand with a mask on, do you think it's a late April fools day joke, or are they up to no good?
Your gut instinct is usually the correct one, but the more you over think it, the more time lost.
Try working with your very first impression on any situation, go with that and stop dwelling on whether there might be something you missed. Because more than likely, your instincts were right the first time.

Part of your issue is, you've had it pounded into you that you are mentally disabled. Drop that shit, we're all mentally disabled to some point, no one is normal, that's what makes us human, otherwise we'd be robots, like bees in a hive.

Want proof? Just look a Hollyweird, these people play pretend for as living, and the media puts them on a pedestal. Take Gwyneth Paltrow, the bimbo actually chastised people for using more than two squares of toilet paper, problem is, she thought everyone owned a heated Bidet and washed their ass with water.
Truth is, she and many of her ilk are complete idiots that couldn't get through life if someone didn't hand them a script. NO ONE IS NORMAL!!! There is no such thing as normal in this day and age.

Solar, will you please do me a favor and take a look at this whenever you can?  If you truthfully believe that Part of my issue is, "I've had it pounded into me that I'm are mentally disabled. And, I should Drop that shit, we're all mentally disabled to some point, no one is normal, that's what makes us human, otherwise we'd be robots, like bees in a hive" then would you as an owner of your business or a selecting official hire this guy for any position including janitor in your company?  Why or why not?


https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCO9MEgyxHmXmJXDYCj7W4cA/videos
http://autism.wikia.com/wiki/Christian_Chandler
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Quote from: alienhand on January 19, 2019, 09:15:21 PM
Solar, will you please do me a favor and take a look at this whenever you can?  If you truthfully believe that Part of my issue is, "I've had it pounded into me that I'm are mentally disabled. And, I should Drop that shit, we're all mentally disabled to some point, no one is normal, that's what makes us human, otherwise we'd be robots, like bees in a hive" then would you as an owner of your business or a selecting official hire this guy for any position including janitor in your company?  Why or why not?


https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCO9MEgyxHmXmJXDYCj7W4cA/videos
http://autism.wikia.com/wiki/Christian_Chandler
https://sonichu.com/cwcki/Main_Page
I'm not sure what his personal life has to do with work, as long as they're kept separate and doesn't interfere with the job he is hired to do.
More background going in would have been helpful, I skimmed a few videos, all I saw was a pretty much normal lonely guy foolishly putting himself on the web without filters.
But in all honesty, I've hired guys like him, everyone has a unique set of skills, but honesty above all is the most important because you can train almost anyone to do entry level tasks.
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Quote from: Solar on January 20, 2019, 05:07:17 AM
I'm not sure what his personal life has to do with work, as long as they're kept separate and doesn't interfere with the job he is hired to do.
More background going in would have been helpful, I skimmed a few videos, all I saw was a pretty much normal lonely guy foolishly putting himself on the web without filters.
But in all honesty, I've hired guys like him, everyone has a unique set of skills, but honesty above all is the most important because you can train almost anyone to do entry level tasks.

If you're telling the truth I have to say you're an awesome kick ass guy for that.  If you're telling the truth we need guys like you to give those on the spectrum like him and myself the ability to prove we can do shit and do it well.  Maybe better then our non-disabled counter parts.  Added bonus I don't like PC so employers won't have to worry about that with me.

Aside: 
Truth is PC has infected our autism community and here are two examples.  1.  Banning the word retarded.  2.  This whole identity vs person first usage.  Or, in other words autistic person vs. person with autism.  The whole thing is so stupid.  It doesn't help or bring benefit to us especially with employers.  We need a different way.  The SJW way is not cutting it for our community.  It's making others think we are stupider then those others thought we were.

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Quote from: alienhand on January 20, 2019, 10:34:22 AM
If you're telling the truth I have to say you're an awesome kick ass guy for that.  If you're telling the truth we need guys like you to give those on the spectrum like him and myself the ability to prove we can do shit and do it well.  Maybe better then our non-disabled counter parts.  Added bonus I don't like PC so employers won't have to worry about that with me.

Aside: 
Truth is PC has infected our autism community and here are two examples.  1.  Banning the word retarded.  2.  This whole identity vs person first usage.  Or, in other words autistic person vs. person with autism.  The whole thing is so stupid.  It doesn't help or bring benefit to us especially with employers.  We need a different way.  The SJW way is not cutting it for our community.  It's making others think we are stupider then those others thought we were.
From what I saw, most of his problems stemmed from his parents. Bad parenting goes a long way in ones life, enabling bad behavior without guidance. That's what I saw here.
You still haven't said how young/old you are.
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Quote from: Solar on January 20, 2019, 10:38:51 AM
From what I saw, most of his problems stemmed from his parents. Bad parenting goes a long way in ones life, enabling bad behavior without guidance. That's what I saw here.
You still haven't said how young/old you are.

I figured you would state it was bad parenting and I had a gut feeling it was that.  And, I think it is his disability as well. 

I don't feel comfortable stating my age on here as I feel shame.

I've looked at how you would respond depending upon how old I am.  My response to all of your messages is it is duly noted. 

From your responses and other member's response especially ConservativeInCT's responses that it takes more then just submitting applications and one has to be able to do social networking and other things.  Duly noted.

Looking what I've read about employer expectations and talking to others about expectations of the real world and even understanding what the real world is.  I and many others had and still have a skewed view as to how things worked in the real world and why they work that way.  I made my decisions in my life based upon a set of assumptions I had and still may have based upon things that was told to me, both indirectly and directly, by other adults (when I was a kid and teen) without verifying these things at all. 

I naively as a teen and child and young adult trusted those in authority including bot not limited to my parents to know what was good for me, know the right things and know what was good for my future.   Example:  If everyone is being encouraged to go into Information Technology then is it a good idea for me to go into it.  Won't the field be saturated with graduates thereby over-inflating the supply and reducing demand.  Basic economics:  Supply and Demand.  IT has an extremely high supply of grads and lower demand of jobs.  I never thought about this and was never taught to think of employment in economic terms instead of this whole stupid shit of "a job of your dreams."

Not, just that not understanding what employers wanted and what their questions meant.   And, knowing what others meant by be yourself and knowing what "not caring what others meant." 

The truth of the matter as far as I see it is that the path I took fucked me up in such way that I think it is to late for me.  I could be wrong.  But,  had I understood then what I understood now I may have been more successful in life (or really succeeding in American society).  But, it is not to late for the upcoming generations to avoid the mistakes of myself and the millennials.  Airplanes have what is called a black box so when a plane crashes this thing can be recovered so others can analyze the recordings.  I wish to be that black box.   I want the younger gens to look at the mistakes I've and others made so they don't go down inadvertently the same bad path.  I wish to give the younger gens hope for a better future.  Sometimes, one has to be the sacrificial lamb so others can prevail.  I encourage the millennials to do this.  Leave generation z and those younger then gen z a black box.  Let them analyze the contents of this black box especially if you're an older sibling to them.