Quote from: washington on September 16, 2014, 07:40:24 PM

Is it Kirby? I was going to guess Herbalife or Cutco.

Well, my pic could have meant that his business sucks, or that he's really cleaning up, but it didn't. Nor did it mean that he'd be tossing his cookies at jokes he's heard hundreds of times, though he might be.

Quote from: Dr. Meh on September 16, 2014, 08:57:22 PM
Is it Kirby? I was going to guess Herbalife or Cutco.

No.  Just posting the one that I own and love. 

Quote from: washington on September 16, 2014, 09:34:20 PM
No.  Just posting the one that I own and love.

Herbalife? Cutco? That candle company thing?

I bought my mom a Kirby 13 years ago and she loves it to this day.

Quote from: Dr. Meh on September 16, 2014, 09:39:51 PM
Herbalife? Cutco? That candle company thing?

I bought my mom a Kirby 13 years ago and she loves it to this day.

My Grandpa owned the first Kirby made 100 years ago in 1914 none electric and still works! :).  btw.. yes you got me - my company is a Kirby franchise and it's been in my family since the early 50's. Door to door sales for 100 year and counting.  Hoover, electorlux, rainbow, now oreck all made of cheap plastic and sold and owned by china only sold in stores and aren't made to last.  Hoovers used to be a very good vaccume 40 years ago.  Kirby is about 10-20 years ahead of all of them in technology and actually cleaning.  The sad truth is people don't realize that the Kirby is the only vaccume that actually gets rid of the sand in the carpet that works like sand paper that rips carpet nap/fiber and causes you to have to replace your carpet prematurely so the other vaccums company's conbtinue to get  your business and so carpets continue to get sold.  It's specifically made to.   The best carpets were made decades ago and were made of whool. Now it's just to expensive.  as you older folks know over time quality of products or the life span of products aren't made to last like they did back in the day.  I own 2 kirbys.  one that came out in the early 1980's that still works like it's brand new and the new one.  However, some inside knowledge is to expect a new Kirby to come out to celebrate 100 years.  Kirby's come with a lifetime rebuild where the factory will rebuild it from scratch with brand new parts for 175.00. 

Facts - Kirby is owned by the Scotts fitzgerald company, which is owned by Warren Buffet, nd it was one of his first investments. 

Kirby's last min 25 years and as long as 100. 

The Kirby product was improved by NASA in Celveland Ohio and started in cleveland Ohio, and is 100% made in American and sold in over 86 different country's. 

Great guess, fyi.

Quote from: washington on September 16, 2014, 09:59:49 PM
My Grandpa owned the first Kirby made 100 years ago in 1914 none electric and still works! :).  btw.. yes you got me - my company is a Kirby franchise and it's been in my family since the early 50's. Door to door sales for 100 year and counting.  Hoover, electorlux, rainbow, now oreck all made of cheap plastic and sold and owned by china only sold in stores and aren't made to last.  Hoovers used to be a very good vaccume 40 years ago.  Kirby is about 10-20 years ahead of all of them in technology and actually cleaning.  The sad truth is people don't realize that the Kirby is the only vaccume that actually gets rid of the sand in the carpet that works like sand paper that rips carpet nap/fiber and causes you to have to replace your carpet prematurely so the other vaccums company's conbtinue to get  your business and so carpets continue to get sold.  It's specifically made to.   The best carpets were made decades ago and were made of whool. Now it's just to expensive.  as you older folks know over time quality of products or the life span of products aren't made to last like they did back in the day.  I own 2 kirbys.  one that came out in the early 1980's that still works like it's brand new and the new one.  However, some inside knowledge is to expect a new Kirby to come out to celebrate 100 years.  Kirby's come with a lifetime rebuild where the factory will rebuild it from scratch with brand new parts for 175.00. 

Facts - Kirby is owned by the Scotts fitzgerald company, which is owned by Warren Buffet, nd it was one of his first investments. 

Kirby's last min 25 years and as long as 100. 

The Kirby product was improved by NASA in Celveland Ohio and started in cleveland Ohio, and is 100% made in American and sold in over 86 different country's. 

Great guess, fyi.

Nice little pitch there but it's good that you support the product you represent. What region are you? I wonder if I contributed to your success with my purchase in 2001.

Quote from: Dr. Meh on September 16, 2014, 10:40:34 PM
Nice little pitch there but it's good that you support the product you represent. What region are you? I wonder if I contributed to your success with my purchase in 2001.

Midwest.  Me, my father, my 2 uncles, my 2 aunts have contributed to about 40,000 kirby's sold personally in 37 years personally not as owners.  If you include as Distributors/owners it's over 100,000 or 60,000 in a 10 year period.  This doesn't even include my grandpas personal sales as an individual and as an owner/distributor, and his influence as a DS, which he started the business in the early 50's and did it till 2007. 

Quote from: washington on September 16, 2014, 11:00:17 PM
Midwest.  Me, my father, my 2 uncles, my 2 aunts have contributed to about 40,000 kirby's sold personally in 37 years personally not as owners.  If you include as Distributors/owners it's over 100,000 or 60,000 in a 10 year period.  This doesn't even include my grandpas personal sales as an individual and as an owner/distributor, and his influence as a DS, which he started the business in the early 50's and did it till 2007.

Ah. I'm in Southern California so I helped make some other guy rich. If my gjrlfriend at the time wasn't in the room during the pitch, I probably wouldn't have bought it. But Kirby has perfected the old trick of making you think you're getting a deal when you "talk them down" from a "$3,000" vacuum to $600, women always give in and she gave me the eye like I better buy the thing. Just as they do in retail, trick them into thinking they're "saving" money by spending $600 instead of $3,000. I always tell people that if you "save" money by spending it, you'll be broke in no time.

That's nothing against Kirby. Just that after 100 years of tough door to door sales has made them into expert pitch people.

Quote from: Dr. Meh on September 16, 2014, 11:29:27 PM
Ah. I'm in Southern California so I helped make some other guy rich. If my gjrlfriend at the time wasn't in the room during the pitch, I probably wouldn't have bought it. But Kirby has perfected the old trick of making you think you're getting a deal when you "talk them down" from a "$3,000" vacuum to $600, women always give in and she gave me the eye like I better buy the thing. Just as they do in retail, trick them into thinking they're "saving" money by spending $600 instead of $3,000. I always tell people that if you "save" money by spending it, you'll be broke in no time.

That's nothing against Kirby. Just that after 100 years of tough door to door sales has made them into expert pitch people.

Let me put it this way...  The customers I sell to most will gladly pay $3,200 for a Kirby which is the price now and both be perfectly fine with it.  See our company has a policy that if the person is married his or her spouse has to be with her at the time of demo.  So why are they so eager to pay that price?  It my knowledge of the product, my honesty of what in can and cannot do, but most importantly I connect with the customer and chat with them before I even begin.  I believe everybody should own a Kirby or they are wasting their money.  Kirby's literally give you an extra 5-10 years of carpet life, and if you think about all the plastic vacuums you have to buy over 25+ years which are now a couple hundred a piece to as much as 600 in the store like the Dysons, the saving add up to the price of a Kirby or beyond it.  Also, it helps to not just have the number 1 vacuum in the world, but the number 1 rated shampooer in the world that you can shampoo an entire room in under 15 minuted and have it dry in 1 hour using circular dry foam cleaning method that doesn't get the padding wet. 

I've had carpet installers tell me that homes whre the customer has a kirby the carpet when being removed weighs way less than a house without a Kirby, and it's because of the sand that's embeded in the carpet. 

Knowing what i know I'd have no problem paying 3,200 for the Kirby cash, check or credit card.  However, if I feel the customer is going through financial difficulty I will cut the price in half from the get go just so they don't worry about the price.  90% of the time when i walk out of a home I don't have the Kirby with me.  I'm that good. 

You can be a great salesman and be honest and not use any pressure at all, and that's how i was taught by my Grandfather.  When i go around holding divisional meetings and tell hundreds of distributors what I'm telling you right now about my family's success selling Kirby's the proper way and using zero pressure tactics but rather sincere caring honesty that I get based on my knowledge of the product I shock them.  the first question I ask dealers when I got office to office is who here uses pressure or decete to sell the Kirby?  Nobody raises their hands because they are ashamed and most of them do and I know it, so i hold a demonstration right in front of the entire office and at the end i ask no i never pressured at all did I? They obviously say no.  I then ask who here can do this demo or even 75% becuase theres a lot of knowledge to remeber in my demo?  They all raise their hands.  I say when you do this demo you will walk out of the house feeling good because you know you connected with a customer, you sold it high, and used zero pressure, and most imprortantly if you seel theis way you will get no more than 1 cancelation a year. 

These offices that pressure can be identified based on the number of cancelations and as the DS I have access to these figures.   

My hope is to one day get promoted again and transform th rest of the divisions and train these DS's and still go office to office and have these sales man sell and train there sales men when they get promoted the same way and start a chain reaction of transforming Kirby's reputation as door to door salesman. 

You guys can take this thread out of the "nut house" now.  I'm officially stable.  I'm really starting to like a lot of you and learn somethings.  I like it.    

Quote from: washington on September 17, 2014, 12:26:57 AM
You guys can take this thread out of the "nut house" now.  I'm officially stable.  I'm really starting to like a lot of you and learn somethings.  I like it.   

Stable? You're a 28 year old kid that claims political genius status, one that can't even differentiate between the paradigm of RINO fraud or Conservative.

I think what you fail to grasp, is we're TEA, not Republicans, not GOP. We're the enemy of the party. We want to steal it from the likes of a Newt, we have absolutely no interest in compromise, the only compromising to be done, will be done by our enemies, the GOP establishment.

We are old enough to remember how the country should look, how much Liberties and freedoms have been lost over the decades thanks to the establishment GOP, a perspective you'll never understand.

Had you bothered to read through our forum before joining, you'd have seen that the majority of members have a shared set of unspoken values that only true Conservatives share, and it's this shared value system that allows us to spot a political newbie a mile off, and why claiming the likes of a Newt as Conservative is nothing short of the pure ignorance of a wet nosed kid.

If you honestly still believe Newt is a Con, then you may be more at home in a Republican forum, one where they think reaching across the isle is the solution.

We'll decide when and if your meds work correctly.

Quote from: washington on September 16, 2014, 07:07:27 PM
Uhmmmm no, because it's none of your business on who I am, and I'm not going to create a way on how to find me.  I gave you plenty of information.

Nobody cares who you are.  We're interested in watching you try and explain what you've posted.

Quote from: washington on September 16, 2014, 07:10:47 PM
I got promoted from the President of the head company.  You know what a franchise owner is? I can be a divisional supervisor and still own a franchise of my own and sell a stake in the company to free up time to be a DS.  Not very hard to figure out.  LOL!  You are ridiculous.  I'd rather talk to Solar than you.

You're not very good at this.  You're managing a division of a franchise, with you owning the franchise?  Explain.

Quote from: Solar on September 17, 2014, 05:47:33 AM
Stable? You're a 28 year old kid that claims political genius status, one that can't even differentiate between the paradigm of RINO fraud or Conservative.

I think what you fail to grasp, is we're TEA, not Republicans, not GOP. We're the enemy of the party. We want to steal it from the likes of a Newt, we have absolutely no interest in compromise, the only compromising to be done, will be done by our enemies, the GOP establishment.

We are old enough to remember how the country should look, how much Liberties and freedoms have been lost over the decades thanks to the establishment GOP, a perspective you'll never understand.

Had you bothered to read through our forum before joining, you'd have seen that the majority of members have a shared set of unspoken values that only true Conservatives share, and it's this shared value system that allows us to spot a political newbie a mile off, and why claiming the likes of a Newt as Conservative is nothing short of the pure ignorance of a wet nosed kid.

If you honestly still believe Newt is a Con, then you may be more at home in a Republican forum, one where they think reaching across the isle is the solution.

We'll decide when and if your meds work correctly.

What you guys are is conservatives that believe in the founding principles of the Republican party or GOP, which makes you apart of them, and your goal should be to move them more toward their core principles that the party was founded on, and that's best for our nation.  I don't see TEA on the ballet, and I know you don't vote democrat.

Quote from: taxed on September 17, 2014, 09:46:03 AM
You're not very good at this.  You're managing a division of a franchise, with you owning the franchise?  Explain.

There are hundreds of franchises.  I own 1 and oversee hundreds, but don't own them.  However I can put them out of business if they don't meet standards.