Re: Hi I'm The Dude

Started by Solar, December 15, 2012, 06:15:59 AM

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njdudeabides

Quote from: Shooterman on December 15, 2012, 12:03:03 PM
Try to understand where Byrdie is coming from.  I don't believe I am speaking out of turn to say this, but Byrdie was an addict for many years, damned near ruined his life and then got clean 20 or more years ago and has stayed that way. He has liver problems now because of it and consequently, has absolutely zero tolerance for drugs. It spills over into the his dislike for libertarian thought as that equates to him druggies. I understand that after knowing him on forums for so many years, so because of that understanding, I do not push it as far as others do. I have never met Byrd face to face, but consider him a very good friend. So I say what I say, he knows where I stand, and I just let a lot slide.

I never had an issue with Byrdie over there. In fact, 95% of the folks on the other forum were more than kind to me. I left because someone told me this forum was also great, and I needed a change of pace. Even when I have disagreed with you and a few others, I've always felt a certain kinship there. But, I feel, based on the posts I've read here, that here is where I belong and here is where I intend to stay.

Shooterman

Quote from: njdudeabides on December 15, 2012, 01:32:03 PM
I never had an issue with Byrdie over there. In fact, 95% of the folks on the other forum were more than kind to me. I left because someone told me this forum was also great, and I needed a change of pace. Even when I have disagreed with you and a few others, I've always felt a certain kinship there. But, I feel, based on the posts I've read here, that here is where I belong and here is where I intend to stay.

I am glad you're here, Dude, but a small word of advice, if I may. Let this be a learning experience for you. Some of these guys are pretty strong in their thinking, slipping of the track occasionally as we all do. Also keep in mind, some of these folks are tougher than anything you experienced on CF. They'll rip you heart out if you get too far out of line. To hold your own, you will have to be tough.

I don't mean this in an ugly or condescending way, but some of these bozos I have posted with for years.

Especially watch that damned old rooster.
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Quote from: Shooterman on December 15, 2012, 12:03:03 PM
Try to understand where Byrdie is coming from.  I don't believe I am speaking out of turn to say this, but Byrdie was an addict for many years, damned near ruined his life and then got clean 20 or more years ago and has stayed that way. He has liver problems now because of it and consequently, has absolutely zero tolerance for drugs. It spills over into the his dislike for libertarian thought as that equates to him druggies.

That's because to most young "libertarians"  THAT is what Libertarianism is.  It is NOT.  As I've said before, the Founding Fathers are the perfect example of the TRUE Libertarian.  This issue being pushed today as "libertarian" they would have never supported.  I call these current "libertarians" Faux libertarians.  As long as they keep pushing this crap they'll never have 3% of the vote.  Yet they'll still lecture the Republicans on "how to win."   :lol:

Shooterman

Quote from: Yawn on December 15, 2012, 02:05:38 PM
That's because to most young "libertarians"  THAT is what Libertarianism is.  It is NOT.  As I've said before, the Founding Fathers are the perfect example of the TRUE Libertarian.  This issue being pushed today as "libertarian" they would have never supported.  I call these current "libertarians" Faux libertarians.  As long as they keep pushing this crap they'll never have 3% of the vote.  Yet they'll still lecture the Republicans on "how to win."   :lol:

Byrdie is certainly not young, and he has been around the Mulberry Bush a few times.

Personally, I couldn't care less what a person ingests, smokes, drinks, who he butt humps or any thing else, as long as it doesn't affect me and/or mine. I couldn't care less if we never stuck our nose into the affairs of any other country foreber and eber. I do recognize some of the greatest Founders were libertarian in their thinking. I am fully capable of deciding for myself what may be harmful to me and damned sure don't need Big Government telling me what I can or can not do in the privacy of my home. I damned sure don't need the silly bastards deciding to spread democracy throughout the world and remaking it in our own image.

With all of that said, I damned sure don't give a rat's ass if the PUBS ever win a dog catcher office again.

At one time, before the advent of the Buckley and the New Right that purged and killed the Old Right, libertarianism was an honored and powerful position in the PUB Party. Now those bustards are little better than DIMS- big government, big welfare, big war, and big usurping of the freedoms of the citizens. FOKK 'em all. The long, the short, and the tall.
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Quote from: Shooterman on December 15, 2012, 12:03:03 PM
Try to understand where Byrdie is coming from.  I don't believe I am speaking out of turn to say this, but Byrdie was an addict for many years, damned near ruined his life and then got clean 20 or more years ago and has stayed that way. He has liver problems now because of it and consequently, has absolutely zero tolerance for drugs. It spills over into the his dislike for libertarian thought as that equates to him druggies. I understand that after knowing him on forums for so many years, so because of that understanding, I do not push it as far as others do. I have never met Byrd face to face, but consider him a very good friend. So I say what I say, he knows where I stand, and I just let a lot slide.

It is often the case if you know someone's background or where they are coming from, you can give them more slack.  But if they can influence or enforce policy, you decide if you want to put up with that or go elsewhere.  Another guy over there got into an argument with him and committed the sin of saying religious zealots were taking over the party.  I don't know who did what behind the scenes, but his membership got deleted.  So I can still post there, but I'd rather post where there is a greater diversity of positions allowed.

walkstall

Quote from: Shooterman on December 15, 2012, 01:48:59 PM
I am glad you're here, Dude, but a small word of advice, if I may. Let this be a learning experience for you. Some of these guys are pretty strong in their thinking, slipping of the track occasionally as we all do. Also keep in mind, some of these folks are tougher than anything you experienced on CF. They'll rip you heart out if you get too far out of line. To hold your own, you will have to be tough.

I don't mean this in an ugly or condescending way, but some of these bozos I have posted with for years.

Especially watch that damned old rooster.


               
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Byrdie is certainly not young, and he has been around the Mulberry Bush a few times.

I think that's what I was saying. That's why this person has a problem with these Faux libertarians who only talk about drugs, prostitution and abortion.  The Founders were not on the side of today's "libertarians."

Shooterman

Quote from: USAPatriot on December 15, 2012, 02:34:00 PM
It is often the case if you know someone's background or where they are coming from, you can give them more slack.  But if they can influence or enforce policy, you decide if you want to put up with that or go elsewhere.  Another guy over there got into an argument with him and committed the sin of saying religious zealots were taking over the party.  I don't know who did what behind the scenes, but his membership got deleted.  So I can still post there, but I'd rather post where there is a greater diversity of positions allowed.

There is little doubt, USAP, that they can be very dogmatic. I have fought that crap since I returned to posting there, but I knew up front the it was and decided to go back. It started as a lark, more or less, to see if I could slip back in under the radar, and as I have some friends there, I just kinda stuck around. The unfortunate thing is they think they are the only conservatives in the game, and Neo-Cons are the idols of some. Without saying so, of course, but never the less, they are. They talk small government, but believe in big war. The two are mutually exclusive in my opinion. They talk small government, but think Bush was right by expanding the government as he did. They talk fiscal responsibility, but advocate foreign aid to every podunk country in the world.
There's no ticks like Polyticks-bloodsuckers all Davy Crockett 1786-1836

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Solar

Quote from: Shooterman on December 15, 2012, 11:03:25 AM
Yeah, Terry is Proudvet. Byrdie pretty much ran things for a while, and still has a lot of input. Good man- been friends a long time. Several other mods, but Wayne, another good man, runs it now. Admin sticks his nose in occasionally.

Truthfully, I always liked PV and thought we were friends, then in December of '06, he banned Pepe and I for being disruptive- we hammered Bush and the PUBS for not doing what we sent them to do. The handwriting about the impending financial disaster was evident, even back then. Shortly after, Samcat, a mod, but far from being a pro-Israeli Neo-Con and said so, left. Never did quite understand why.

I snuck back in a couple of times just to prove I could- the last time I was made pretty early because of my MO, so I confessed and Wayne didn't care.

They still primarily hate the libertarian viewpoint, and Neo-Cons seem to rule the roost.

Speaking of sneaking back in, Darwinist is openly posting on the Loose Nut Forum, seemingly with Admin's approval.
Things never change.
I was pretty much unwelcome over my hatred for neocons, that and the fact I wouldn't play nice with the clique.
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kramarat

Quote from: Solar on December 15, 2012, 03:21:40 PM
Things never change.
I was pretty much unwelcome over my hatred for neocons, that and the fact I wouldn't play nice with the clique.

Glad I stumbled into the right forum. A good mix of both extremes and everything in between.

I'll argue with anybody just for the fun of it. Calling for links and proof to support a position is a great touch. It knocks down the weak pretty quickly.

Solar

Quote from: kramarat on December 15, 2012, 03:46:31 PM
Glad I stumbled into the right forum. A good mix of both extremes and everything in between.

I'll argue with anybody just for the fun of it. Calling for links and proof to support a position is a great touch. It knocks down the weak pretty quickly.
I'm glad you think so, it was by design. It was a planned effort to bring the greatest posters on the web together, a place where they wouldn't have to deal with kids, or the BS that entails.
It's also why I booted that one idiot lib roboposter, (can't remember his name) he never made that much of an impression, he'd just post leftist talking points and refuse to back them up.
Then when challenged, would complain unfairness or that so and so never gets challenged.

It's crap like that, that has a very negative effect on a quality forum. If you've ever looked at our stats, we are the go to forum for facts, half million views per month.
That means that people are coming here for real arguments supporting their position and returning to facebook or some lib forum to do battle, we are the ammo bringerTM, so to speak.  :cool:
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Quote from: Solar on December 15, 2012, 03:21:40 PM
Things never change.
I was pretty much unwelcome over my hatred for neocons, that and the fact I wouldn't play nice with the clique.

The problem is they don't like being called Neo-Cons. One old fart ( older than I and Rooster ) says Neo-Con is anti-Semitic and there is no such thing. Of course, he is a Bill Buckley Neo-Con.
There's no ticks like Polyticks-bloodsuckers all Davy Crockett 1786-1836

Yankees are like castor oil. Even a small dose is bad.
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Shooterman

Well, we have pretty well fokked over Dude's welcoming thread..
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Yankees are like castor oil. Even a small dose is bad.
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Quote from: njdudeabides on December 15, 2012, 01:32:03 PM
I never had an issue with Byrdie over there. In fact, 95% of the folks on the other forum were more than kind to me. I left because someone told me this forum was also great, and I needed a change of pace. Even when I have disagreed with you and a few others, I've always felt a certain kinship there. But, I feel, based on the posts I've read here, that here is where I belong and here is where I intend to stay.

You were always treated well, but I think it is partly because of your age.  They often stated that you were young and would learn the truth when you "grew up".  LOL   "Nice Dude, good boy"

Solar

Quote from: Shooterman on December 15, 2012, 04:01:47 PM
The problem is they don't like being called Neo-Cons. One old fart ( older than I and Rooster ) says Neo-Con is anti-Semitic and there is no such thing. Of course, he is a Bill Buckley Neo-Con.
To this day, I have no idea why they turned on me like a pack of dogs, but I can just imagine the BS in PMs flying around behind my back.
I took a short hiatus and posted at LNF for a couple of weeks, when I returned they acted like I was some kind of traitor, when in truth, it was at their suggestion I post over there because I tended to speak my mind.

That was the first place I went to after getting banned at Townhall.com where I had posted since it's inception.
I hope I never get booted from here, this is my final asylum. :biggrin: 
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