Yeah ... we buy it. We put it in Root Beer (shakes), adult beverages, smother it with fruit, or even more sweet chocolate, Caramel, Butterscotch, Cherries, Sprinkles - everyone has a FAVORITE flavor of Ice Cream!
Wifey loves Chocolate.
I love Vanilla.
Kids like lots of extra "junk" on theirs.
Now we got an ice cream machine - it's gonna get a lot of use this summer. I can taste it already!
Lactose intolerant but when I do indulge it is either vanilla or my favorite dairy free butter-pecan.
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Black Walnut. And if they don't have it, I just drive off. :rolleyes:
Quote from: Grammy on May 25, 2021, 05:01:50 AMBlack Walnut. And if they don't have it, I just drive off. :rolleyes:
That was my Dad's favorite.. good memories there. Toy
Quote from: Solars Toy on May 26, 2021, 03:21:15 PMThat was my Dad's favorite.. good memories there. Toy
That's where I learned to love it.... my old dad. :smile:
OK, first test of both machines, using 1 batch of Chocolate in both, at the same time, same mix, etc.
Second round with Lime-Vanilla (favorite of mine), same batch, same mix, same starting temp, etc.
Wynter 201SB
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VS the Italian made at 2x the price,
Musso MINI Lussino 4080 Italian Sorbet Gelato Ice Cream ...
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Either one makes a great milkshake in 1/2hr, period. You want something more frozen than a milkshake, like HARD, scoopable ice cream you can put in a CONE instead of a cup (milkshake, straw, etc). Neither one of these will do that. The Musso comes close, it gets to the scoopable stage... mostly, but not quite.
Speed, they are the same, although the Musso does 1.5 qts, and the Wynter does 2.1 qts. about 30-35min for both machines - before they really start to struggle. That's with the liquid pre-cooled, and the mixing bowl filled to the top edge of the mixing blade (yep, slightly overfilled).
Ease of use? the Musso does not have a removable bowl, which... sucks. The removable bowl on the Wynter made it really EASY to empty the entire bowl quickly into another container - compared to all the scooping necessary with the Musso. I didn't look at the manual for the Musso - but got a bit confused with the symbols on the Wynter, a peek at the manual, "Oh, I get it... press the button till you see the ice cream cone...". I did not wait till the machines screamed for mercy & stopped, but, they were well "loaded up" when I stopped either one of them.
Cleaning - Sure, the Wynter looks like you just pull everthing (even has a handle on the bowl, quite nice!), but some of the mix managed to leak past something, and I needed to wipe out the ice cream mix, just like the Musso. Not much, but if I didn't pull the bowl and clean it out, I suspect it would have been "glued" in place with sticky ice cream a few days later. Ice cream texture - identical, both machines use enough mixer speed to prevent "frozen chunks" and inconsistencies you get from those ice or hand crank machines. The Wynter is just EASY to clean.
Conclusion: I like BOTH of them. One makes harder ice cream & the motor sounds stronger. The other is so easy to clean up, I suspect wifey will like that one more.
The Wynter is about 1/2 the price of the Musso ... If $340 is within your budget, go with that. I don't think the extra money $790 is worth what you getting. It's a strong machine, probably outlast the other, but... pulling that bowl and just dumping soft-serve into a cup, ice cream bucket... sure beats all the scooping. The consistency of the Wynter - pull the bowl, and tip it over, it sort of runs out slowly like Lava, a nice, thick shake.
If you like milk shakes, either machine does a great job. Like those triple-thick shakes, like DQ you can flip upside down (doesn't run out), and near impossible to suck through a straw - the Musso is for you. Like those runny shakes McD's has, stick the straw in and get a mouthful with ease, the Wynter is your machine.
We're mixing and freezing most everthing. It gets pretty hard. Here's where there's a slight difference. The colder Musso machine mixes more AIR into the ice cream, making it slightly easier to scoop when really frozen. Not much of a difference though. Typically ice cream as it freezes can expand 1/2 again, so filling the bowls to the top of the mixer blades is really putting these at or past their capacity.
As for the ice cream mixes... we're using milk instead of water - and it's making some super smooth, very creamy ice cream. Best we've ever had, no gritty, ice cycle, just super smooth.
Quote from: Hoofer on May 29, 2021, 12:27:08 PMOK, first test of both machines, using 1 batch of Chocolate in both, at the same time, same mix, etc.
Second round with Lime-Vanilla (favorite of mine), same batch, same mix, same starting temp, etc.
Wynter 201SB
(https://i5.walmartimages.com/asr/601f1433-624f-45ed-a067-c4ae5c5a9fdd.a0a6bbfb4e4b886e71899334784cb263.jpeg?odnWidth=undefined&odnHeight=undefined&odnBg=ffffff)
VS the Italian made at 2x the price,
Musso MINI Lussino 4080 Italian Sorbet Gelato Ice Cream ...
(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ebayimg.com%2Fimages%2Fi%2F262769733505-0-1%2Fs-l1000.jpg&f=1&nofb=1)
Either one makes a great milkshake in 1/2hr, period. You want something more frozen than a milkshake, like HARD, scoopable ice cream you can put in a CONE instead of a cup (milkshake, straw, etc). Neither one of these will do that. The Musso comes close, it gets to the scoopable stage... mostly, but not quite.
Speed, they are the same, although the Musso does 1.5 qts, and the Wynter does 2.1 qts. about 30-35min for both machines - before they really start to struggle. That's with the liquid pre-cooled, and the mixing bowl filled to the top edge of the mixing blade (yep, slightly overfilled).
Ease of use? the Musso does not have a removable bowl, which... sucks. The removable bowl on the Wynter made it really EASY to empty the entire bowl quickly into another container - compared to all the scooping necessary with the Musso. I didn't look at the manual for the Musso - but got a bit confused with the symbols on the Wynter, a peek at the manual, "Oh, I get it... press the button till you see the ice cream cone...". I did not wait till the machines screamed for mercy & stopped, but, they were well "loaded up" when I stopped either one of them.
Cleaning - Sure, the Wynter looks like you just pull everthing (even has a handle on the bowl, quite nice!), but some of the mix managed to leak past something, and I needed to wipe out the ice cream mix, just like the Musso. Not much, but if I didn't pull the bowl and clean it out, I suspect it would have been "glued" in place with sticky ice cream a few days later. Ice cream texture - identical, both machines use enough mixer speed to prevent "frozen chunks" and inconsistencies you get from those ice or hand crank machines. The Wynter is just EASY to clean.
Conclusion: I like BOTH of them. One makes harder ice cream & the motor sounds stronger. The other is so easy to clean up, I suspect wifey will like that one more.
The Wynter is about 1/2 the price of the Musso ... If $340 is within your budget, go with that. I don't think the extra money $790 is worth what you getting. It's a strong machine, probably outlast the other, but... pulling that bowl and just dumping soft-serve into a cup, ice cream bucket... sure beats all the scooping. The consistency of the Wynter - pull the bowl, and tip it over, it sort of runs out slowly like Lava, a nice, thick shake.
If you like milk shakes, either machine does a great job. Like those triple-thick shakes, like DQ you can flip upside down (doesn't run out), and near impossible to suck through a straw - the Musso is for you. Like those runny shakes McD's has, stick the straw in and get a mouthful with ease, the Wynter is your machine.
We're mixing and freezing most everthing. It gets pretty hard. Here's where there's a slight difference. The colder Musso machine mixes more AIR into the ice cream, making it slightly easier to scoop when really frozen. Not much of a difference though. Typically ice cream as it freezes can expand 1/2 again, so filling the bowls to the top of the mixer blades is really putting these at or past their capacity.
As for the ice cream mixes... we're using milk instead of water - and it's making some super smooth, very creamy ice cream. Best we've ever had, no gritty, ice cycle, just super smooth.
Thanks for the report. So for me so far the Wynter gets the nod.
Couldn't you pretty much do the same a lot cheaper?
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/yogurt-makers/ice-cream-makers/pcmcat150900050000.c?id=pcmcat150900050000
Quote from: dickfoster on May 29, 2021, 02:42:39 PMThanks for the report. So for me so far the Wynter gets the nod.
Yup, it does the job!
Quote from: Solar on May 29, 2021, 03:01:30 PMCouldn't you pretty much do the same a lot cheaper?
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/yogurt-makers/ice-cream-makers/pcmcat150900050000.c?id=pcmcat150900050000
These have built in compressors, nothing to prechill, or put in the freezer overnight.
For instance, I ran 3 batches through both of them, one after another.
the only reason we mixed and threw the mix into the fridge, was so the ingredients would have time to blend together completely. Several people suggested that to prevent making butter globs.
Everything we looked at started about $300. But, remember, none of these ace "ice cream freezers" - they're just soft-serve machines, like milk shake machines.
Is it worth it...? I LOVE Lime... Lime-Vanilla, Lime Sherbet, Lime candy, Lime drinks, Limeade - and do NOT like Lemon, or lemon-lime mixtures. Sure, I'll drink a Sprite or 7-up, just not near as good as an ice cold glass of Limeade. With one of these, can make exactly what I like - same with Wifey. We both love Custard, but can't find it around here... the duck eggs will find another use too!
Well since my intrest was peaked I did some more digging into that Whynter outfit.
It seems they're a pickaune little 25 person reseller located in Brea Ca. The ice cream machines are likely made in China by God only knows who and the product support is pretty dismal from the sounds of it. Therefore I'll be giving this one a wide berth.
The search continues. I don't mind paying more but I do absolutely insisit on getting what I pay for.
Quote from: Hoofer on May 29, 2021, 03:19:19 PMThese have built in compressors, nothing to prechill, or put in the freezer overnight.
For instance, I ran 3 batches through both of them, one after another.
the only reason we mixed and threw the mix into the fridge, was so the ingredients would have time to blend together completely. Several people suggested that to prevent making butter globs.
Everything we looked at started about $300. But, remember, none of these ace "ice cream freezers" - they're just soft-serve machines, like milk shake machines.
Is it worth it...? I LOVE Lime... Lime-Vanilla, Lime Sherbet, Lime candy, Lime drinks, Limeade - and do NOT like Lemon, or lemon-lime mixtures. Sure, I'll drink a Sprite or 7-up, just not near as good as an ice cold glass of Limeade. With one of these, can make exactly what I like - same with Wifey. We both love Custard, but can't find it around here... the duck eggs will find another use too!
That makes sense. But in my book, that's just more shit to go wrong.
Go simple and you'll have it for decades.
Hell, I remember sitting on the driveway cranking away on the old ice-cream maker covered in salt and freezing my ass off.
Somehow, it made the ice cream taste all the sweeter.
Quote from: dickfoster on May 29, 2021, 04:25:10 PMWell since my intrest was peaked I did some more digging into that Whynter outfit.
It seems they're a pickaune little 25 person reseller located in Brea Ca. The ice cream machines are likely made in China by God only knows who and the product support is pretty dismal from the sounds of it. Therefore I'll be giving this one a wide berth.
The search continues. I don't mind paying more but I do absolutely insisit on getting what I pay for.
Yeah, I hear ya, some Christian or Muzzie slave labor - Go with the one made in Italy then, it freezes harder... and the ice cream expands better, like a commercial machine. I'm thinking of modifying the metal paddle, trimming about 1/3rd off it, so it can handle a stiffer freeze, without shutting down. All the paddle does is provide some mixing, but mainly scraping the freezing mix off the walls of the bowl. I'd LOVE to get it near frozen, instead of a semi-hard, soft-serve.
Back to the days of ... "Mom, Billy is tearing apart the TV set again, remember what he did to the Radio!?"... "But, I'm gonna make it *better*... MOM! OUCH!! Nancy is hurting my arm!" "Oh no... your father will be furious! Tommy, see if you can put this back together again - Billy, go outside!"
(at least she didn't curse).
Quote from: Solar on May 29, 2021, 06:05:51 PMThat makes sense. But in my book, that's just more shit to go wrong.
Go simple and you'll have it for decades.
Hell, I remember sitting on the driveway cranking away on the old ice-cream maker covered in salt and freezing my ass off.
Somehow, it made the ice cream taste all the sweeter.
We got a couple of those also. As the boys got bigger and stronger, the managed to strip the gears on the hand crank one. The electric one, does about 1 gallon at a time, it's just too messy for us.
Some things... I just grew out of, doing myself. Now if we had a bunch of energetic youngsters running around the farm, chasing ducks & chickens, harassing the cows... out comes the hand crank unit.
Forgot to mention, after hard freezing overnight, the ice cream from the Musso scoops just like store-bought - plenty of air mixed in, it'll go easily into cones!
The Wynter didn't do the same job, it scoops with a bit more effort.
IMO, for my taste, I don't want a hard BRICK to scoop from. The air also increases the volume almost 1/2 again, 2qts becomes 3qts or so.
Settling in to watch the Indy500, with a wonderful bowl of Lime-Vanilla ice cream, wonderful!
We went to the store yesterday and of all things we found peach cobbler ice cream. It wasn't peach but close enough so I snatched it. We alsio got a bx of Grapenuts. It's been months since that stuff was in the stores. BTW Grapenuts was the very first mass marketed breakfast cereal.
Quote from: dickfoster on May 31, 2021, 12:22:54 PMWe went to the store yesterday and of all things we found peach cobbler ice cream. It wasn't peach but close enough so I snatched it. We alsio got a bx of Grapenuts. It's been months since that stuff was in the stores. BTW Grapenuts was the very first mass marketed breakfast cereal.
Grapenuts...? Really? I remember those commercials - and the reply, "It's neither Grape, nor Nuts", we tried it, with lots of sugar, it was ... just ... OK. Masking that cardboard taste, whew!
Wheat Thins is another one, tastes like flattened, hardened Graham Crackers + SALT. LOL - we still eat them, with Cheese. We're a WI family in diet, cheese enhances almost everything. And Pickles, gotta have pickles, this time of year, we really like dill pickles, and Franks Sour Kraut (lived on an adjacent farm to Franks, Franksville, WI).
the Lime-Vanilla is just heavenly. It's somewhere between Sherbert and Icecream. Vanilla is like frozen sweet cream. These guys know how to make it soooo... right!!!
I think we're keeping BOTH machines, at some time in the future, we'll "gift" someone with one of them.
Quote from: Hoofer on May 31, 2021, 03:49:18 PMGrapenuts...? Really? I remember those commercials - and the reply, "It's neither Grape, nor Nuts", we tried it, with lots of sugar, it was ... just ... OK. Masking that cardboard taste, whew!
Wheat Thins is another one, tastes like flattened, hardened Graham Crackers + SALT. LOL - we still eat them, with Cheese. We're a WI family in diet, cheese enhances almost everything. And Pickles, gotta have pickles, this time of year, we really like dill pickles, and Franks Sour Kraut (lived on an adjacent farm to Franks, Franksville, WI).
the Lime-Vanilla is just heavenly. It's somewhere between Sherbert and Icecream. Vanilla is like frozen sweet cream. These guys know how to make it soooo... right!!!
I think we're keeping BOTH machines, at some time in the future, we'll "gift" someone with one of them.
I'm not too crazy about sweet stuff so I guess that's why I like stuff like Grapenuts and hate stuff like barbeque sauce. Good barbeque done right donn need no stikin sauce anyway.
Quote from: dickfoster on May 31, 2021, 03:56:54 PMI'm not too crazy about sweet stuff so I guess that's why I like stuff like Grapenuts and hate stuff like barbeque sauce. Good barbeque done right donn need no stikin sauce anyway.
I hate it when any meat is doused in sauce. If anything, it just needs a little.
Quote from: Hoofer on May 24, 2021, 04:22:42 PMI love Vanilla.
Me too. We love our WHITE ice cream!
(take that lefties)
Wifey's sister, husband & parents are blowing into town tomorrow.
We're making up Vanilla, Chocolate, Lime & Strawberry - mixing it up, when they get here, into the freezers!
87 degrees outside... none of it will be wasted.
Wow...! Mixed up a batch of Vanilla last night, let it all marinate, melt all the sugar, etc., overnight, into the Musso MINI Lussino 4080 Italian Sorbet Gelato Ice Cream machine... and just enjoyed a wonderful Root Beer Float. Very FIRM soft serve consistency, ready to scoop into cones or a container for the freezer.
Just can't get over how creamy smooth this makes ice cream. Dairy Queen is pretty smooth, and this is smoother than that! I guess that was Covid relief money - blown on something we're get occasional use, and probably enjoy as a guilty pleasure for year to come.