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Offline mrclose

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Who really rules?(Constitution)
« on: September 06, 2018, 05:54:46 PM »
You know me, never sure where to put my posts! :biggrin:

Well here goes anyway! :lol:

Just sharing a simple explanation, in picture form of how our government was supposed to work.

Instead, it has become something else altogether!
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Re: Who really rules?(Constitution)
« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2018, 12:18:01 AM »
You know me, never sure where to put my posts! :biggrin:

Well here goes anyway! :lol:

Just sharing a simple explanation, in picture form of how our government was supposed to work.

Instead, it has become something else altogether!
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So what kind of specific changes are needed to rectify this situation?

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Re: Who really rules?(Constitution)
« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2018, 05:45:35 AM »
You know me, never sure where to put my posts! :biggrin:

Well here goes anyway! :lol:

Just sharing a simple explanation, in picture form of how our government was supposed to work.

Instead, it has become something else altogether!
(Also shown in picture form)


Am I the only one not seeing an image?
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Re: Who really rules?(Constitution)
« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2018, 09:13:52 AM »
Am I the only one not seeing an image?


I see 2 jpg images, one on top of the other.
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Re: Who really rules?(Constitution)
« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2018, 09:27:48 AM »

I see 2 jpg images, one on top of the other.
Hmmm, I suspected I had a problem with my browser..
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Re: Who really rules?(Constitution)
« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2018, 04:14:38 AM »
Interesting view of who's in charge or who the final arbiter is on complex topics. Below is another complex view of our governmental system.

'The US is a failed state thanks to its system of government'

https://aeon.co/ideas/the-us-is-a-failed-state-thanks-to-its-system-of-government



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Re: Who really rules?(Constitution)
« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2018, 08:18:19 AM »
Interesting view of who's in charge or who the final arbiter is on complex topics. Below is another complex view of our governmental system.

'The US is a failed state thanks to its system of government'

https://aeon.co/ideas/the-us-is-a-failed-state-thanks-to-its-system-of-government
Yet he never once recognized the Bill of Rights, nor do I believe he understands its importance in keeping chains on the federal govt.
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Re: Who really rules?(Constitution)
« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2018, 09:45:30 AM »
Yet he never once recognized the Bill of Rights, nor do I believe he understands its importance in keeping chains on the federal govt.

That article is a perfect example of why i hate elitists. He has this whole article full of fancy words arranged to sound intelligent, like he is makeing profound points, and yet never reaches basic conclusions which match with reality. For all his words he never realize the basic fact that less guns=more crime. Simple truths really seem to elude elitists. Like they overthink everything.

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Re: Who really rules?(Constitution)
« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2018, 10:39:48 AM »
That article is a perfect example of why i hate elitists. He has this whole article full of fancy words arranged to sound intelligent, like he is makeing profound points, and yet never reaches basic conclusions which match with reality. For all his words he never realize the basic fact that less guns=more crime. Simple truths really seem to elude elitists. Like they overthink everything.
Exactly! He said a shitload of nothing.
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Re: Who really rules?(Constitution)
« Reply #9 on: October 02, 2018, 11:59:52 AM »
The author of the piece is British and should be forgiven. lol  But his argument is still interesting.  Here's another interesting piece from a Princeton guy done a few years ago. A bit off topic.

'A Princeton sociologist spent 8 years asking *rural Americans why they’re so *pissed off ' 

https://www.vox.com/2018/3/13/17053886/trump-rural-america-populism-racial-resentment

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Re: Who really rules?(Constitution)
« Reply #10 on: October 02, 2018, 12:52:29 PM »
The author of the piece is British and should be forgiven. lol  But his argument is still interesting.  Here's another interesting piece from a Princeton guy done a few years ago. A bit off topic.

'A Princeton sociologist spent 8 years asking *rural Americans why they’re so *pissed off ' 

https://www.vox.com/2018/3/13/17053886/trump-rural-america-populism-racial-resentment

"A people that values its privileges above its principles soon loses both."  Dwight D. Eisenhower

The Princeton professor does not realize this, but he found the real in this response:

"Robert Wuthnow

It’s an interesting question. What does it mean for us to take that seriously? I guess my point is that she takes it seriously, even if we don’t or shouldn’t. Does she still spank her children? Probably. Is she just using that as an example of how the country is changing and how Washington is driving that change? Probably.

Now, I doubt she made this us up herself. She likely heard it at church or from her neighbors or from Fox News or talk radio. Again, what I kept hearing from people is a general fear that traditional moral rules were being wiped out by a government and a culture that doesn’t understand the people who still believe in these things."

He clearly discounts that people feel strongly about morals and almost dismisses people confirm these beliefs from church of Fox news.
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Re: Who really rules?(Constitution)
« Reply #11 on: October 04, 2018, 07:52:56 AM »
Do you spank your children?  My father would punch us and oddly we still laugh sometimes when we talk about it. People brought up in different circumstances think we are crazy for laughing.  My younger brother still laughs like crazy when he tells me how dad caught me half drunk and beat the heck outta me on the steps upstairs. I don't even remember it but I remember other times running for my life. We were white trash (with a little PR mixed in) but didn't know it, our goal was to graduate HS, neither parent did and get a decent job. Now I move and live among the upper classes, oh sorry, we aren't supposed to talk about class in America are we. So then back to the article what's true, what's BS. Hm. Here's another piece to digest. 

http://www.stirjournal.com/2016/04/01/i-know-why-poor-whites-chant-trump-trump-trump/

How much is class and education? 

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Re: Who really rules?(Constitution)
« Reply #12 on: October 28, 2018, 11:35:56 PM »
The Constitution should serve as the basis of our Government, and there should be but one interpretation of the words, that being the interpretation applied at the time they were written. Our Supreme Court Justices should not allow for any political agenda to adulterate the words, simply apply them as originally intended, allowing for the people, their Representatives to the House, and the States, their representatives to the Senate to reach agreement on any changes to be made through the Constitutionally proscribed amendment process, worded clearly and concisely so that ALL people will understand the change, allowing the Supreme Court nothing more than to assure compliance going forward.
Repeal the 16th and 17th amendments and start taking back control of our government(s), spending and debts.

 

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