Good meme...



https://conservativehardliner.com/memes/second-amendment-does-not-grant-us-right-bear-arms

Pay close Attention Libs, your Rights do not, I repeat, DO NOT come from Govt!
As much as you may disdain the idea, God Granted us these Rights!

I have always wondered that, if God granted these rights to Americans, did God also grant them to everybody on earth?

Quote from: Tory Potter on December 05, 2020, 06:37:15 AM
I have always wondered that, if God granted these rights to Americans, did God also grant them to everybody on earth?

Are you questioning the existence of God, or the fact that he granted men certain rights? Try reading the declaration of independence.

Quote from: Tory Potter on December 05, 2020, 06:37:15 AM
I have always wondered that, if God granted these rights to Americans, did God also grant them to everybody on earth?

They are rights of every human....that's why you are not free there....

Quote from: Tory Potter on December 05, 2020, 06:37:15 AM
I have always wondered that, if God granted these rights to Americans, did God also grant them to everybody on earth?

Of Course He Did!!! People allowed govt to usurp them. Yes, your forefathers allowed a handful of bureaucrats to claim said Rights for themselves in a power grab.
They freely gave them up with the promise of security and peace and they continue forward stealing more and more of your rights without consent.

Sadly these rules have been grandfathered in and you were forced to accept it.

Here in the US, we are taught that our Rights do not come from bureaucrats, rather from the highest power, so any real change must first stand up to our Bill of Rights, the Document designed to keep bureaucrats at bay, leaving our God Granted Rights intact.

Quote from: Possum on December 05, 2020, 06:45:25 AM
Are you questioning the existence of God, or the fact that he granted men certain rights? Try reading the declaration of independence.

You misunderstand my question. I am asking if any citizen of another country has these same rights?  Does the Government of the UK have the right to infringe on a British Subject's right to bear arms?

Quote from: Tory Potter on December 05, 2020, 07:02:09 AM
You misunderstand my question. I am asking if any citizen of another country has these same rights?  Does the Government of the UK have the right to infringe on a British Subject's right to bear arms?

Only because they are subjects, not individuals. This has a long history of subjection to aristocracy, not the fault of the citizenry, the power is inherent, and until the people end it and start anew, they will continue to be robbed of individual rights.

I am not sure what rights I am being deprived of. I own a half dozen long guns and two hand guns. The government restrictions are the same here as in several american states.

Quote from: Tory Potter on December 05, 2020, 07:46:28 AM
I am not sure what rights I am being deprived of. I own a half dozen long guns and two hand guns. The government restrictions are the same here as in several american states.

And therein lies the problem, you don't know what Rights you've lost till you lose them. One becomes accustomed to restrictions as a cultural norm.
But dare you speak against govts cultural norm, you'll recognize one Right you never had. The Right to Free Speech.

Having been in politics most of my adult life, and much of that in opposition to Liberal governments, I have never been or seen any infringement on the right of free speech by government. I have seen idiot children from the left and right try to interfere with the free exchange of ideas on campuses but the Crown has never prevented free speech.
The Canadian Constitution with the Charter of Rights and Freedoms is also from God since it was made law by the Supreme Governor of the Christian Church on behalf of all faiths. So, I don't see a difference.

Quote from: Tory Potter on December 05, 2020, 07:02:09 AM
You misunderstand my question. I am asking if any citizen of another country has these same rights?  Does the Government of the UK have the right to infringe on a British Subject's right to bear arms?

Solar simply answered in reply #1. God given rights can only be taken away by a rogue government in concert with a compliant citizenry.

Quote from: Tory Potter on December 05, 2020, 08:30:30 AM
Having been in politics most of my adult life, and much of that in opposition to Liberal governments, I have never been or seen any infringement on the right of free speech by government. I have seen idiot children from the left and right try to interfere with the free exchange of ideas on campuses but the Crown has never prevented free speech.
The Canadian Constitution with the Charter of Rights and Freedoms is also from God since it was made law by the Supreme Governor of the Christian Church on behalf of all faiths. So, I don't see a difference.

Really? Here in the US, this is considered protected speech. But in Canada, they oppress free thought, regardless of what you think.
In other words, whatever the individual meant by his speech is left to interpterion by anyone who wants to claim it offensive.

On December 12, Lord Dear introduced a motion to reform section 5 from the Public Order Act 1986 in the British House of Lords. Section 5 says that a person is guilty of an offence in Britain if he

"uses threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour, or disorderly behaviour, or displays any writing, sign or other visible representation which is threatening, abusive or insulting, within the hearing or sight of a person likely to be caused harassment, alarm or distress thereby."

What does that have to do with the US or Canada. What the British do is their own business.
Many people may exersize their God given right to take offence to something I say and they are free to rebut it. However, slander, libel and hate do not constitute free speech. God did not give anyone to right to hate. It is an abomination in the eyes of the Lord. Lying is bearing false witness and a sin. It is not a right given by God.

Quote from: Tory Potter on December 05, 2020, 09:16:15 AM
What does that have to do with the US or Canada. What the British do is their own business.
Many people may exersize their God given right to take offence to something I say and they are free to rebut it. However, slander, libel and hate do not constitute free speech. God did not give anyone to right to hate. It is an abomination in the eyes of the Lord. Lying is bearing false witness and a sin. It is not a right given by God.

You do know what libel laws are, Right? They are not covered by free speech...

This is where the quote comes from...
https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/tom-kott/freedom-of-speech-canada_b_2324999.html