The Second Amendment does not grant us the right to bear arms...

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Owebo

Quote from: Tory Potter on December 05, 2020, 09:16:15 AM
What does that have to do with the US or Canada. What the British do is their own business.
Many people may exersize their God given right to take offence to something I say and they are free to rebut it. However, slander, libel and hate do not constitute free speech. God did not give anyone to right to hate. It is an abomination in the eyes of the Lord. Lying is bearing false witness and a sin. It is not a right given by God.

I hate liberals....

Tory Potter

Quote from: Owebo on December 05, 2020, 10:24:45 AM
I hate liberals....
I don't hate them. I've just spent a lifetime trying to keep them out of office. :thumbup:
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Tory Potter

Quote from: Solar on December 05, 2020, 09:56:34 AM
You do know what libel laws are, Right? They are not covered by free speech...

This is where the quote comes from...
https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/tom-kott/freedom-of-speech-canada_b_2324999.html
The quote was about legislation in the British House of Lords. It has as much to do with Canada as legislation to licence dogs in Uraguay.
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Solar

Quote from: Tory Potter on December 05, 2020, 10:49:36 AM
The quote was about legislation in the British House of Lords. It has as much to do with Canada as legislation to licence dogs in Uraguay.
You're Right, I misread it. But here is a perfect example of Marxists in action.

Canadian Supreme Court Rules Biblical Speech Opposing Homosexual Behavior is a 'Hate Crime'

https://christiannews.net/2013/02/28/canadian-supreme-court-rules-biblical-speech-opposing-homosexual-behavior-is-a-hate-crime/
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Owebo

Quote from: Tory Potter on December 05, 2020, 10:45:09 AM
I don't hate them. I've just spent a lifetime trying to keep them out of office. :thumbup:

I guess someone has to like them....

Tory Potter

Quote from: Solar on December 05, 2020, 11:07:08 AM
You're Right, I misread it. But here is a perfect example of Marxists in action.

Canadian Supreme Court Rules Biblical Speech Opposing Homosexual Behaviour is a 'Hate Crime'

https://christiannews.net/2013/02/28/canadian-supreme-court-rules-biblical-speech-opposing-homosexual-behavior-is-a-hate-crime/
Actually, the court ruled against Bill Whatcott's attack on gays. I happen to know Mr. Whatcott in a professional capacity. He says the Government should have the right to tell you who you can fall in love with and who you can or can't marry. That is socialism.  He is in my view, disturbed. I wish I could say he does not mean any harm, but unfortunately Bill does show signs of potential harm. His vicious attacks on people are cherry picked from the bible but do not reflect Biblical speech. Ironically, while I was dealing with him, the uniform I was wearing was an abomination in the eyes of the Lord, yet he made no comment on it. It would have been funny, because he too was breeching God's Law in the same manner. According to Leviticus, we were both committing a sin worse than homosexuality.
As I said before, God does not permit hate. Therefore there is no God given right to hate. Be that as it may, the Court did rule that hate speech conveyed privately "does not ban private expression of views."
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Owebo

Quote from: Tory Potter on December 05, 2020, 12:46:24 PM
Actually, the court ruled against Bill Whatcott's attack on gays. I happen to know Mr. Whatcott in a professional capacity. He says the Government should have the right to tell you who you can fall in love with and who you can or can't marry. That is socialism.  He is in my view, disturbed. I wish I could say he does not mean any harm, but unfortunately Bill does show signs of potential harm. His vicious attacks on people are cherry picked from the bible but do not reflect Biblical speech. Ironically, while I was dealing with him, the uniform I was wearing was an abomination in the eyes of the Lord, yet he made no comment on it. It would have been funny, because he too was breeching God's Law in the same manner. According to Leviticus, we were both committing a sin worse than homosexuality.
As I said before, God does not permit hate. Therefore there is no God given right to hate. Be that as it may, the Court did rule that hate speech conveyed privately "does not ban private expression of views."

I hate liberals....

Tory Potter

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Solar

Quote from: Tory Potter on December 05, 2020, 12:46:24 PM
Actually, the court ruled against Bill Whatcott's attack on gays. I happen to know Mr. Whatcott in a professional capacity. He says the Government should have the right to tell you who you can fall in love with and who you can or can't marry. That is socialism.  He is in my view, disturbed. I wish I could say he does not mean any harm, but unfortunately Bill does show signs of potential harm. His vicious attacks on people are cherry picked from the bible but do not reflect Biblical speech. Ironically, while I was dealing with him, the uniform I was wearing was an abomination in the eyes of the Lord, yet he made no comment on it. It would have been funny, because he too was breeching God's Law in the same manner. According to Leviticus, we were both committing a sin worse than homosexuality.
As I said before, God does not permit hate. Therefore there is no God given right to hate. Be that as it may, the Court did rule that hate speech conveyed privately "does not ban private expression of views."
God does condone hate, he also condones forgiveness. But that aside, my point still stands, your govt is banning what it deems as hate speech, or in this case, thought crime, while here in the US speech in general is protected, even what someone claims to be hate speech.

If I were to say I hate commies and wish they would die in a burning inferno, that is protected speech. It's also true.
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Tory Potter

I don't believe God condons hate but we will have to agree to disagree.
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Owebo

Quote from: Tory Potter on December 05, 2020, 03:21:12 PM
I don't believe God condons hate but we will have to agree to disagree.

They are saying your .gov is going to lock the people down who don't get the China virus vaccine....is slavery really that rampant up there?

Tory Potter

Quote from: Owebo on December 05, 2020, 03:27:08 PM
They are saying your .gov is going to lock the people down who don't get the China virus vaccine....is slavery really that rampant up there?
Somebody is lying to you. It is estimated about 25% of Canadians plan to refuse the vaccine. It's their choice. By the time we have access to it, tens of millions of Americans will have had it so we will have a pretty good idea if it works and is safe.
But then it is American made. What could go wrong?
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Tory Potter

Solar explained that God gave everbody the same rights so I would have to say we have the same rights as you for free speech. If God gave it to us, then I guess nobody except God can take it away from us. So don't believe anyone who tells you we don't have the same rights as you.
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Owebo

Quote from: Tory Potter on December 05, 2020, 03:50:14 PM
Solar explained that God gave everbody the same rights so I would have to say we have the same rights as you for free speech. If God gave it to us, then I guess nobody except God can take it away from us. So don't believe anyone who tells you we don't have the same rights as you.

No..anyone can take your rights away at anytime you let them....thus the topic of this thread....