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Re: The First Amendment is dead
« Reply #15 on: July 09, 2018, 12:17:09 PM »
The small church, which was founded in April, is up front with people about its mission to "stand apart from the last days apostate church and stand for biblical truth and faithfulness to God and His Word."

https://www.christianpost.com/news/indiana-church-sign-says-lgbt-is-hate-crime-against-god-repent-protest-planned-225458/

Here's the Faceplant link, but I can't read it because I dumped the leftist scum.

https://www.facebook.com/heartmindsoulstrength/posts/613470602324617
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Re: The First Amendment is dead
« Reply #16 on: July 09, 2018, 06:17:03 PM »
We are a nation of laws. So tell me, what law you would write that would protect the church that doesn't interfere with the First Amendment or Rights of the individual?
I think you''re missing the consequences here.

I know you are. We should all stand with this church. Period. This is another attack on Freedom Of Speech, Freedom Of Expression, and Freedom Of Religion. Like I said, first is this business owner, then it's this private organization, and then We The People are next.

We need to call Liberals out on every immoral, illegal, Unconstitutional, or hypocritical act they attempt. If this church did nothing illegal, there should not be any reason to evict them. We can figure out if there is any illegal wrong doing but we need to first call them out on the immoral wrong doing. If it so happens that a property owner throws out any Muslim church, you can be money that Liberals will be up in arms about that so we can call them out on their hypocrisy as usual. Call them out. Fight fire with fire.
First Amendment isn't just Freedom Of Speech, it's Freedom Of Conscience.

Who made you the arbiter of morality? You are not Government but you sure are acting like one.

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Re: The First Amendment is dead
« Reply #17 on: July 09, 2018, 07:22:39 PM »
I know you are. We should all stand with this church. Period. This is another attack on Freedom Of Speech, Freedom Of Expression, and Freedom Of Religion. Like I said, first is this business owner, then it's this private organization, and then We The People are next.

We need to call Liberals out on every immoral, illegal, Unconstitutional, or hypocritical act they attempt. If this church did nothing illegal, there should not be any reason to evict them. We can figure out if there is any illegal wrong doing but we need to first call them out on the immoral wrong doing. If it so happens that a property owner throws out any Muslim church, you can be money that Liberals will be up in arms about that so we can call them out on their hypocrisy as usual. Call them out. Fight fire with fire.
Yes, I agree, it is an attack, but there are ramifications to changing the law.

Say, for example, you owned a building and your tenants were preaching white hate speech, you'd be within your rights to not renew their lease.
But if the law were to change, and Heaven forbids we screw with the Constitution, you'd be shit out of luck in getting rid of them.

I was reading up on this so called church, it's closer to a Jonesburrrow cult than it is actual religion.
So when people kick the Jones burrow cult out of town, do you see that as an attack on religiion?
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Re: The First Amendment is dead
« Reply #18 on: July 09, 2018, 08:07:21 PM »
Yes, I agree, it is an attack, but there are ramifications to changing the law.

Say, for example, you owned a building and your tenants were preaching white hate speech, you'd be within your rights to not renew their lease.
But if the law were to change, and Heaven forbids we screw with the Constitution, you'd be shit out of luck in getting rid of them.

I was reading up on this so called church, it's closer to a Jonesburrrow cult than it is actual religion.
So when people kick the Jones burrow cult out of town, do you see that as an attack on religiion?

I'm not a religious person. I don't go to any church. I'm not directly defending this church. I wouldn't deny a cake just on the basis of religion.

But, if I WANTED to make that same statement as the church has, then they would go after me as well. I see that there is an attack on the First Amendment by the same people who screamed for the defense of it in the past.

I'm not demanding for changing laws that would hurt us in the long run. Let's just start with both of us calling out Liberals on their morality, investigate their legality/Constitutionality of it, and change/correct things for the better. Sometimes, your direct Constitutional stance get's in the way of calling out immorality or the demanding of decency. You give the impression that it's not illegal so that's that. It's like we are not allowed to have a certain Conservative stance or opinion with this site or you.

As you might tell, First Amendment has become an important issue with me.
First Amendment isn't just Freedom Of Speech, it's Freedom Of Conscience.

Who made you the arbiter of morality? You are not Government but you sure are acting like one.

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« Reply #19 on: July 09, 2018, 09:27:11 PM »
I'm not a religious person. I don't go to any church. I'm not directly defending this church. I wouldn't deny a cake just on the basis of religion.

But, if I WANTED to make that same statement as the church has, then they would go after me as well. I see that there is an attack on the First Amendment by the same people who screamed for the defense of it in the past.

I'm not demanding for changing laws that would hurt us in the long run. Let's just start with both of us calling out Liberals on their morality, investigate their legality/Constitutionality of it, and change/correct things for the better. Sometimes, your direct Constitutional stance get's in the way of calling out immorality or the demanding of decency. You give the impression that it's not illegal so that's that. It's like we are not allowed to have a certain Conservative stance or opinion with this site or you.

As you might tell, First Amendment has become an important issue with me.
Bull Shit! Don't even Fuckin go there!

As a Conservative, I stand on the side of our Founding Documents, nothing more, nothing less!

You started a thread claiming the First Amendment is dead, which I think is pure bull shit, but I, in no way, stifled your speech, nor did I censor your rant.

You claim Rosie was somehow censored because she was fired. That my friend is other people exercising their Right to not have to listen to her loonie ass.
Or the restaurant that kicked Sanders out for her points of view. This is something that leftist nutcase lib paid a heavy price for, and guess what Right protected the people that protested that forced her to close her restaurant? That's Right, the First Amendment!

Pick your battles, because getting upset over every loonie leftist move does nothing but give them the attention they seek.
Just because I don't agree with your outrage over a non-issue, or pointing out, that so far as we know on the surface, no law was broken.
You do know, the church had only just started in April, that's just two months old, it's not as if they were an established church, Hell, look at the building they were renting, looks like an auto parts store.

They made the mistake of painting a target on themselves by initiating angst, in turn bringing the wrath of leftists who happen to look for this stuff.
No, they do not deserve my sympathies.
This is literally akin to marching into East La and calling all the Mexicans a bunch of lawbreakers, then expecting police protection for their stupid behavior.
They stupidly brought this upon themselves then hide behind religious freedom.

Scrrew them, they're idiots!
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Re: Indiana church booted from building after posting anti-LGBT sign
« Reply #20 on: October 20, 2018, 12:25:06 AM »
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/indiana-church-booted-from-building-after-posting-anti-lgbt-sign/ar-AAzIpmy?li=BBnbfcL#image=1

Their First Amendment was silenced.
So it was the government that kicked them out?  I saw nothing in your link that says any government agency was responsible for giving them the boot.    The 1st amendment is all about limiting the government, not a private business.

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Re: Indiana church booted from building after posting anti-LGBT sign
« Reply #21 on: October 20, 2018, 12:50:04 AM »
So it was the government that kicked them out?  I saw nothing in your link that says any government agency was responsible for giving them the boot.    The 1st amendment is all about limiting the government, not a private business.

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Either the property owner booted them because they are Liberal, or some Liberals complained and the property owner caved to the pressure.

Nobody said it was government doing it. It is you tyrannical Liberals doing it. To get offended over a rather mild statement makes you people North Korea in my book,
First Amendment isn't just Freedom Of Speech, it's Freedom Of Conscience.

Who made you the arbiter of morality? You are not Government but you sure are acting like one.

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Re: The First Amendment is dead
« Reply #22 on: October 20, 2018, 08:17:49 AM »
The First Amendment is not dead. It is under attack by the left. It is up to us to fight these attacks. We can never lose faith the document is strong.

Perfectly said.

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Re: Indiana church booted from building after posting anti-LGBT sign
« Reply #23 on: October 20, 2018, 01:41:36 PM »
Nobody said it was government doing it. It is you tyrannical Liberals doing it. To get offended over a rather mild statement makes you people North Korea in my book,
Naive statement.  North Korea would've starved them out instead of revoking the lease or whatever it was that made the church leave.

I have no beef with the church, they can say as they please.  Had I been their landlord, I would not have made them leave over a sign that merely started their beliefs.
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