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General Category => The Constitution => Topic started by: orioncs.net on May 22, 2020, 04:41:15 PM

Title: The Constitutional Basis for Challenging Covid-19 Stay at Home Orders
Post by: orioncs.net on May 22, 2020, 04:41:15 PM
In the 1905 case Jacobson v. Massachusetts the supreme court ruled that communities have the right to protect themselves against an epidemic of disease that poses a great danger to their members.  The disease of that time was smallpox.  Smallpox has nearly a 30% fatality rate and often leaves people who recover from it with permanent damage, including scaring and blindness.  It is a "great danger" to the public.

Covid-19 by contrast poses nearly no risk of death to healthy people and even the risk of death to people with underlying medical conditions is relatively low (6.5%).  I've written an article called the Covid-19 media project that uses CDC data and a basic but medically consistent understanding of immunology to show that the virus poses no risk of death to about 98% of the population.  The article should be legally considered evidence that Covid-19 cannot be considered a great danger to the public and therefore there is no basis for states to impose restrictions to protect people from it.

In addition to establishing risk, the article also examines media articles to show why the misconceptions exist that Covid-19 is randomly deadly.  The business model of the media is pretty simple: attract attention and sell advertising.  The media made every effort to exaggerate the danger of the virus because in doing so, the story would attract more attention and developments on the story would continue to attract attention.  Politicians responded to the public perception created by the media.  Some politicians as the interests they represented were being harmed by the lock downs, and public opinion began to shift as the public's interests were being harmed changed their positions.  Other politicians who saw the exaggerated danger as being politically advantageous have maintained that the virus is a great threat and randomly deadly.

One issue we have even after the lockdowns is public perception.  As it stands now, probably 60% of the country is still under the impression that the virus is very dangerous.  After the lockdowns many jobs lost are not going to come back in addition to small businesses who will not recover.  Many sectors of the economy that provide goods and services that require people to be in close proximity to one another will continue to suffer and downsize.  Once we win the legal battles to resume our lives, we still need to change public opinion to save our economy. 

The link is to an article that definitively establishes the risk of being infected with Covid-19 which serves as the basis for constitutionally challenging Covid-19 lockdowns and contrasts the actual risk of being infected with the virus to the exaggerated risk projected by the media. 

Title: Re: The Constitutional Basis for Challenging Covid-19 Stay at Home Orders
Post by: Solar on May 22, 2020, 05:16:51 PM
Sooo, you came to plug your site , did ya? You know, this is frowned upon, most people pay to advertise.
Title: Re: The Constitutional Basis for Challenging Covid-19 Stay at Home Orders
Post by: orioncs.net on May 22, 2020, 06:04:41 PM
I'm promoting this article because most of the people do not know on what basis stay at home orders should be challenged.  The article also establishes risk and it is important for people who understand risk, to be able to explain that risk of others because even after stay at home orders end, many sectors of the economy will lag in recovery because people won't consume goods and services that are sold around other people.  This will contribute to unemployment, unemployment a reduction in consumer spending overall, and this reduction will slow economic growth and recovery.  I'm promoting this article to address the hysteria that is destroying our country and individual opportunity.  On the otherside of it, if I'm plugging my website what is the purpose of the forum?  The purpose of the forum is to discuss issues of popular importance, to discuss those issues and arrive at an understanding in establishing goals that will improve people's lives.  Even if I was plugging my website, since my website consists of cited information that leads to the improvement of understanding issues and propses solutions to address symptomatic as well as systemic issues.  The purpose of the website should be the same as the forum and if so what is there to frown at? 
Title: Re: The Constitutional Basis for Challenging Covid-19 Stay at Home Orders
Post by: Solar on May 22, 2020, 06:57:21 PM
Quote from: orioncs.net on May 22, 2020, 06:04:41 PM
I'm promoting this article because most of the people do not know on what basis stay at home orders should be challenged.  The article also establishes risk and it is important for people who understand risk, to be able to explain that risk of others because even after stay at home orders end, many sectors of the economy will lag in recovery because people won't consume goods and services that are sold around other people.  This will contribute to unemployment, unemployment a reduction in consumer spending overall, and this reduction will slow economic growth and recovery.  I'm promoting this article to address the hysteria that is destroying our country and individual opportunity.  On the otherside of it, if I'm plugging my website what is the purpose of the forum?  The purpose of the forum is to discuss issues of popular importance, to discuss those issues and arrive at an understanding in establishing goals that will improve people's lives.  Even if I was plugging my website, since my website consists of cited information that leads to the improvement of understanding issues and propses solutions to address symptomatic as well as systemic issues.  The purpose of the website should be the same as the forum and if so what is there to frown at?
We're capitalists! You want to to advertise, we want to make money.
Or you could post your article in its entirety since you own it and leave off the links, that should satisfy your need to share.
Title: Re: The Constitutional Basis for Challenging Covid-19 Stay at Home Orders
Post by: orioncs.net on May 22, 2020, 07:02:08 PM
Or I could just say fuck you and this piece of shit forum for removing the link and let you narrow minded stooges remain narrow minded stooges, whcih is obviously what I intend to do given the content of this response.  Cunts. 
Title: Re: The Constitutional Basis for Challenging Covid-19 Stay at Home Orders
Post by: Solar on May 22, 2020, 07:11:41 PM
Quote from: orioncs.net on May 22, 2020, 07:02:08 PM
Or I could just say fuck you and this piece of shit forum for removing the link and let you narrow minded stooges remain narrow minded stooges, whcih is obviously what I intend to do given the content of this response.  Cunts.
Next time, show a little courtesy to the next board you spam bomb, and ask if it would be OK to promote your site, allowing them to decide if you are up to their standards. You know, many of us share links as a reciprocal favor in promoting one another, but not you, you're better than everyone else who've spent decades building their site with their own money.

Somehow you feel entitled to my hard work (OPM), and yes, there is a name for that.

Come on, help me out here, ummm, Oh, I remember. LIB!!! Go Fuck yourself Leech!!!
Title: Re: The Constitutional Basis for Challenging Covid-19 Stay at Home Orders
Post by: Pop Daddy on July 25, 2020, 09:10:33 AM
Man, orioncs got a little grouchy.
Title: Re: The Constitutional Basis for Challenging Covid-19 Stay at Home Orders
Post by: Solar on July 25, 2020, 10:24:30 AM
Quote from: Pop Daddy on July 25, 2020, 09:10:33 AM
Man, orioncs got a little grouchy.
They claim to be Conservative, but hate being told "Nothing is Free in Life", that if they want to profit, they need to pay the price.. :lol: