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The 25th Amendment: Removal Of The President
« on: December 03, 2015, 12:14:22 AM »
through incompetence.  I.E., delusional incompetence.

I didn't want to derail the San Bernardino Terrorism-thread, but the process of removing the President by reason of mental deficiency played-out in my mind before I drifted to sleep.

Sections 3 and 4 (the first two sections relate to the VP):

Section 3.

Whenever the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that he is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, and until he transmits to them a written declaration to the contrary, such powers and duties shall be discharged by the Vice President as Acting President.

Section 4.

Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.

Thereafter, when the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that no inability exists, he shall resume the powers and duties of his office unless the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive department or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit within four days to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office. Thereupon Congress shall decide the issue, assembling within forty-eight hours for that purpose if not in session. If the Congress, within twenty-one days after receipt of the latter written declaration, or, if Congress is not in session, within twenty-one days after Congress is required to assemble, determines by two-thirds vote of both Houses that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall continue to discharge the same as Acting President; otherwise, the President shall resume the powers and duties of his office.


Congress can designate whom that 'some other body' may consist of.  -Most likely a panel that includes psychiatrists.  It's an intriguing option... as I believe obama is becoming more-and-more incapable of performing The Duties Of The Executive Office by each passing hour. 

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Re: The 25th Amendment: Removal Of The President
« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2015, 06:02:07 AM »
This is assuming Congress believes he is not performing his duties.
A Congress that has virtually rubber stamped his every demand.
No, I do not want this Congress doing anything of the sort, especially when one considers who they replaced Boner with.

I'll wait and let the people decide our path, we have far better chances getting a Conservative elected than another Marxist appointed by our so called Representatives.
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Re: The 25th Amendment: Removal Of The President
« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2015, 06:06:16 AM »
Trading one incompetent fool for another incompetent fool is not my idea of progress. Besides if CONgress hasn't impeached him by now, they never will.

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Re: The 25th Amendment: Removal Of The President
« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2015, 06:14:10 AM »
English is messy.

"Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide."

I read it as:

Vice President AND [Principal Officers OR Other Body]

You need the vice president plus one or the other on this.  That makes sense since the goal is to provide a mechanism for removing a mentally incompetent person, not as a way of congress removing a president.  Good luck getting Biden to go along.

Also, if we go the congress route, there would have to be a law for this "other body".  If there's not already a law creating that body (I don't know, is there?), the law to create that body would be open to veto.

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Re: The 25th Amendment: Removal Of The President
« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2015, 06:25:36 AM »
Trading one incompetent fool for another incompetent fool is not my idea of progress. Besides if CONgress hasn't impeached him by now, they never will.
Exactly, and to Impeach him at this stage of the game would only be helping the Marxist party.
One, it would martyr this scumbag, and two, give the party an out in not having to accept the responsibility for enabling the destructive policies of the commie bastard.

No, I want him to finish out his term and let the citizens judge the Dims on what they did to this great nation, when the fraudently elected a Muscum Marxist.
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Re: The 25th Amendment: Removal Of The President
« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2015, 08:20:39 AM »
You guys are right.  I guess this time-frame is a juncture where history scholars will look harshly at Joe Biden and his not-doing-anything, when it's obvious the President is losing the struggle to remain rational. 

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Re: The 25th Amendment: Removal Of The President
« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2015, 08:47:24 AM »
This is assuming Congress believes he is not performing his duties.
A Congress that has virtually rubber stamped his every demand.
No, I do not want this Congress doing anything of the sort, especially when one considers who they replaced Boner with.

I'll wait and let the people decide our path, we have far better chances getting a Conservative elected than another Marxist appointed by our so called Representatives.

What if the people are the problem? 

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Re: The 25th Amendment: Removal Of The President
« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2015, 10:59:59 AM »
What if the people are the problem?
So far, nearly half the nation proved they can exacerbate the problem, but thank God, most of those ignorant bastards won't be voting in 2016 because the left doesn't have a candidate worth a shit.
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Re: The 25th Amendment: Removal Of The President
« Reply #8 on: December 04, 2015, 09:13:18 AM »
There is a marked difference between un-ABLE to perform the duties of President, and un-WILLING to do so....

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Re: The 25th Amendment: Removal Of The President
« Reply #9 on: December 04, 2015, 12:09:37 PM »
There is a marked difference between un-ABLE to perform the duties of President, and un-WILLING to do so....
or rather, refusing to do so.
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Re: The 25th Amendment: Removal Of The President
« Reply #10 on: December 04, 2015, 12:58:43 PM »
or rather, refusing to do so.
Semantics. po-TAY-to, po-TAW-to.

Point being the Bamster's actions in office stem from the advancement of a specific, anti-Republic agenda, and not, as so many seem to like to assume, incompetence.

 

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