Quote from: Trisha007 on January 14, 2021, 12:07:34 PM
Yes, we have to give them some money for our protection but the government has become way to large. I am all for the military.  Get bigger and better ships, destroyers, battleships, jets, spacecraft, satellites, all of it.  I want the biggest stick on the planet.

Now the government, and big tech is shutting down free speech, only certain news platforms can survive and only if you say what they want you to.  Parler is shut down!  Laura Loomer has been held at the airport simply because of her conservative views.   

I am worried.  It is just like Germany in 1933.  The German government was doing exactly the same thing as ours is now in the earliest days of the war.  Turning the press, not letting people go places, ("your papers please").  Closing Jewish businesses (conservative now), not permitting banks to loan to certain people.  It is happening here and it is happening today.  Are we in WWIII but don't know it yet?  Conservatives are being bullied across the board.  Now to get a job, you have to sign off that they can check your social media?  Really?  How about they come in my bedroom and see what's going on there too!  Well, they practically are.

They decide if you are going to be called a girl or boy. They are pushing transgenderism, same sexism, the whole enchilada.   That should be private.  They shouldn't be teaching the young this stuff.  It is very confusing to them.  Sample of what I mean, I got married at 23 a virgin.  Didn't know what gay meant.   Was shocked the first time I saw two women kissing.  That was in the 70's. 

Oh well, trust in the Lord.  So true.  Just waiting for the rapture.

By the way Trisha, welcome to the forum, if I didn't already say it. Glad you're hear!

On another note, everyone knew the attack was coming. In fact we have people imbedded within antifa and BLM both.
Watch...

https://twitter.com/EricGreitens/status/1349524092244946947

Well, thank you very much Solar.  I love it here.  I have opinions on everything and... I can go on and on and on.       

Yes, I was hearing some things about that attack on the capital.  The time line where Trump ended his speech and people didn't even leave the rally yet yet alone have time to get to the capital.  I heard there were infiltrators and that laptops were stolen and that they may have been stolen by the insiders.  So much on that is just coming out.  BUT, will we here the results of the investigation? Who knew, who started it and was that girl really shot in the neck? 

I hope they get all these traitors and head for Gitmo with them.  I hope Trump is steps ahead of them.  I cannot seem to leave my PC, View or phone for a second for fear I'll miss something. 

My phone is set to Emergency Alert System.  I'm ready. 

On that note, my phone was set to go off for EAS.  We had two this past week and one-half in PA.  The TV showed the alert but not my phone.  I knew it was on because I always got Amber alerts.  So I checked.  Would you believe my EAS was shut off and I did not shut it off.  Some say the President's EAS are on all the time, but that is only with certain phones age wise.  But then I heard that this president will broadcast from a satellite that was given for his access by Space Force, so I'm not worried.  I'm just anxious.

Thank you again.  Your posts are awesome.

Quote from: Trisha007 on January 14, 2021, 12:58:02 PM
Well, thank you very much Solar.  I love it here.  I have opinions on everything and... I can go on and on and on.       

Yes, I was hearing some things about that attack on the capital.  The time line where Trump ended his speech and people didn't even leave the rally yet yet alone have time to get to the capital.  I heard there were infiltrators and that laptops were stolen and that they may have been stolen by the insiders.  So much on that is just coming out.  BUT, will we here the results of the investigation? Who knew, who started it and was that girl really shot in the neck? 

I hope they get all these traitors and head for Gitmo with them.  I hope Trump is steps ahead of them.  I cannot seem to leave my PC, View or phone for a second for fear I'll miss something. 

My phone is set to Emergency Alert System.  I'm ready. 

On that note, my phone was set to go off for EAS.  We had two this past week and one-half in PA.  The TV showed the alert but not my phone.  I knew it was on because I always got Amber alerts.  So I checked.  Would you believe my EAS was shut off and I did not shut it off.  Some say the President's EAS are on all the time, but that is only with certain phones age wise.  But then I heard that this president will broadcast from a satellite that was given for his access by Space Force, so I'm not worried.  I'm just anxious.

Thank you again.  Your posts are awesome.

I posted a warning a few days ago, turn off all auto updates, they are turning off the EBS system. These people are scum!!

Quote from: Trisha007 on January 14, 2021, 12:58:02 PM
Well, thank you very much Solar.  I love it here.  I have opinions on everything and... I can go on and on and on.       

Yes, I was hearing some things about that attack on the capital.  The time line where Trump ended his speech and people didn't even leave the rally yet yet alone have time to get to the capital.  I heard there were infiltrators and that laptops were stolen and that they may have been stolen by the insiders.  So much on that is just coming out.  BUT, will we here the results of the investigation? Who knew, who started it and was that girl really shot in the neck? 

I hope they get all these traitors and head for Gitmo with them.  I hope Trump is steps ahead of them.  I cannot seem to leave my PC, View or phone for a second for fear I'll miss something. 

My phone is set to Emergency Alert System.  I'm ready. 

On that note, my phone was set to go off for EAS.  We had two this past week and one-half in PA.  The TV showed the alert but not my phone.  I knew it was on because I always got Amber alerts.  So I checked.  Would you believe my EAS was shut off and I did not shut it off.  Some say the President's EAS are on all the time, but that is only with certain phones age wise.  But then I heard that this president will broadcast from a satellite that was given for his access by Space Force, so I'm not worried.  I'm just anxious.

Thank you again.  Your posts are awesome.

Belated welcome. Glad you are comfortable being here.

Quote from: Possum on December 17, 2020, 02:56:59 PM
Does that include meth and crack?

In a healthy society of social justice, of course, there should be no prohibitions. There should be an education that will explain to people what and why they can use inside their body. And if someone consciously wants to destroy his health or die, society should not oppose these intentions.

But society is not obliged to save and heal such people, since it was the free choice of the given individual

Are insurance companies doing the right thing when they charge more money from smokers than from nonsmokers?

I think it is absolutely correct. Likewise, systematic drinkers or people who use drugs must pay their insurance premiums many times greater than non-drinkers, non-smokers and non-sniffing cocaine.

And this will be true, such people pose a danger not only to themselves, but also to all the people around them.

Quote from: Yuriy the Loader on January 19, 2021, 05:39:33 AM
In a healthy society of social justice, of course, there should be no prohibitions. There should be an education that will explain to people what and why they can use inside their body. And if someone consciously wants to destroy his health or die, society should not oppose these intentions.

But society is not obliged to save and heal such people, since it was the free choice of the given individual

Are insurance companies doing the right thing when they charge more money from smokers than from nonsmokers?

I think it is absolutely correct. Likewise, systematic drinkers or people who use drugs must pay their insurance premiums many times greater than non-drinkers, non-smokers and non-sniffing cocaine.

And this will be true, such people pose a danger not only to themselves, but also to all the people around them.

To a point I agree with you. Problem is that people are not responsible and do whatever they want regardless of whom they injure, kill, etc. If someone has spent all of their money on Cocaine for example and then drives their car and hits someone innocent, the person they hit is out of luck. If someone decides to drive their car under the influence of alcohol and hits someone, the innocent that they hit is out of luck. Just because someone spends all their money on substances does not mean that a) they are insured b) driving their car legally c) they they have made ANY provision for the poor innocent that they careen into. It all comes down to personal responsibility and accountability.

The leftists would like us to believe that if one has a car and has insurance that they are somehow "rich" and can afford a "poor" addicted person to ram into them, injure them, possibly kill them or a family member and somehow it isn't their fault. The claim is that the addicted person had a "right" to drive under the influence, the addicted person has a "right" to drive their car and the addicted person shouldn't be held liable for the damage, pain and suffering that they cause. Apparently to the leftist, the person they hit is at fault...

Quote from: Yuriy the Loader on January 19, 2021, 05:39:33 AM
In a healthy society of social justice, of course, there should be no prohibitions. There should be an education that will explain to people what and why they can use inside their body. And if someone consciously wants to destroy his health or die, society should not oppose these intentions.

But society is not obliged to save and heal such people, since it was the free choice of the given individual

Are insurance companies doing the right thing when they charge more money from smokers than from nonsmokers?

I think it is absolutely correct. Likewise, systematic drinkers or people who use drugs must pay their insurance premiums many times greater than non-drinkers, non-smokers and non-sniffing cocaine.

And this will be true, such people pose a danger not only to themselves, but also to all the people around them.

Not only are they a danger, but a financial burden.

Quote from: RV on January 19, 2021, 06:39:54 AM
The leftists would like us to believe that if one has a car and has insurance that they are somehow "rich" and can afford a "poor" addicted person to ram into them, injure them, possibly kill them or a family member and somehow it isn't their fault. The claim is that the addicted person had a "right" to drive under the influence, the addicted person has a "right" to drive their car and the addicted person shouldn't be held liable for the damage, pain and suffering that they cause. Apparently to the leftist, the person they hit is at fault...

Of course, I was talking about an "idial" world, in which all citizens understand that they are responsible for their own life and health and for the life and health of all other citizens.

Of course, I did not write this about our present world, which is divided into two opposing camps, which are ready for specific violence against each other.

Of course, we will never reach even some approximation to the ideal, well, perhaps in heaven, although we must not forget about other people who are in hell.

In the near future, we will have to forget about "social justice" at all. Now we will need to unite in order to survive. And we have not even worked out the criteria by which we will unite.

And most importantly, how will we disunite with those members of our families and our friends who find themselves on the other side of the current social barricades.

Quote from: Yuriy the Loader on January 19, 2021, 06:59:35 AM
Of course, I was talking about an "idial" world, in which all citizens understand that they are responsible for their own life and health and for the life and health of all other citizens.

Ah yes, the "Socialist utopia" that Democrats all espouse. The "utopia" free from facts, reality or evidence. A magical realm where everything is as the socialist wants it to be.

Quote from: Yuriy the Loader on January 19, 2021, 06:59:35 AM
Of course, I did not write this about our present world, which is divided into two opposing camps, which are ready for specific violence against each other.

Ah yes, you weren't talking about today, you were talking about that "utopia" that you mentioned.

Quote from: Yuriy the Loader on January 19, 2021, 06:59:35 AM
Of course, we will never reach even some approximation to the ideal, well, perhaps in heaven, although we must not forget about other people who are in hell.

"perhaps in heaven"? So maybe not according to you?

Quote from: Yuriy the Loader on January 19, 2021, 06:59:35 AM
In the near future, we will have to forget about "social justice" at all. Now we will need to unite in order to survive. And we have not even worked out the criteria by which we will unite.

"Social justice"? It is neither "Social" nor "justice". It is the Socialist idea of "justice" rather than actual justice.

Quote from: Yuriy the Loader on January 19, 2021, 06:59:35 AM
And most importantly, how will we disunite with those members of our families and our friends who find themselves on the other side of the current social barricades.

"Disunite"? So in other words, banish those who disagree with the liberal Democrats? Kill all Conservatives, maybe? Silence ANY dissenting facts, truth or ideology that doesn't agree first. Sounds exactly like what happened in Nazi Germany.

Quote from: RV on January 19, 2021, 07:57:09 AM
Ah yes, the "Socialist utopia" that Democrats all espouse. The "utopia" free from facts, reality or evidence. A magical realm where everything is as the socialist wants it to be.

Ah yes, you weren't talking about today, you were talking about that "utopia" that you mentioned.

"perhaps in heaven"? So maybe not according to you?

"Social justice"? It is neither "Social" nor "justice". It is the Socialist idea of "justice" rather than actual justice.

"Disunite"? So in other words, banish those who disagree with the liberal Democrats? Kill all Conservatives, maybe? Silence ANY dissenting facts, truth or ideology that doesn't agree first. Sounds exactly like what happened in Nazi Germany.

This is exactly the crap I am talking about. That was never said. Period. If you do not understand what the poster is talking about either ask questions or stfu.

Quote from: Possum on January 19, 2021, 09:23:40 AM
This is exactly the crap I am talking about. That was never said. Period. If you do not understand what the poster is talking about either ask questions or stfu.

In other words, make assumptions that the poster is Conservative unless they identify themselves as liberal, a Democrat, a leftist, a Marxist or advocate for overthrowing the government is that it? Never call out liberal rhetoric because heaven forbid, it might make someone mad or uncomfortable...

Quote from: Possum on January 19, 2021, 09:23:40 AM
This is exactly the crap I am talking about. That was never said. Period. If you do not understand what the poster is talking about either ask questions or stfu.

Speaking of a "comprehension problem"? Maybe you need to go back to grade school so you can learn what a ? at the end of a sentence means?

Quote from: RV on January 19, 2021, 09:53:55 AM
In other words, make assumptions that the poster is Conservative unless they identify themselves as liberal, a Democrat, a leftist, a Marxist or advocate for overthrowing the government is that it? Never call out liberal rhetoric because heaven forbid, it might make someone mad or uncomfortable...

Show me where the post was talking about this
"Ah yes, the "Socialist utopia" that Democrats all espouse. The "utopia" free from facts, reality or evidence. A magical realm where everything is as the socialist wants it to be. "

This is what you inserted as the meaning.

Now show me where I said this
"In other words, make assumptions that the poster is Conservative"

You had have some very good posts, but, stop putting words into what other people have written. You do not have the right to talk for me or anyone else. If you do not understand ask, but you are arguing something that was not said as if it was.

Don't squabble over me, gentlemen. It is really difficult for me to express my opinion, because the English language remained "terra incognito" for me, too late I began to study it, and on the sump business, I did not have time to learn the language, I had to work, pay rent for an apartment and feed the family. The children went to school, my wife did more with them, and the whole responsibility of earning a living was on me then.

Yes, now for the phrase "Social justice", I want to strangle a person who pronounces it.

But in fact, social justice is very necessary and important,

It's just that what liberals mean when they say this spell is not what they mean at all.

Social justice is equal accessibility to all services offered by the state and the private market.

All citizens of the country have equal rights to attend school and free libraries.

All citizens of the country have equal rights to defend their dignity in court, compete for jobs and buy property with the money they earn.

As a first approximation, this is social justice, such as I imagine it to be.

It is much more difficult with medicine, as the first necessity for all people. Especially for children. The problem of preschool education of children immediately arises, since life is now so expensive that there is a need for both parents to work.

The general medicine that the Soviet authorities in the USSR offered us was just a mockery of people. The doctors were tortured by hard work and low salaries, there were not enough average medical personnel, and there were no orderlies at all, since their salaries were below the subsistence level.

For themselves, the authorities created a network of closed medical institutions, into which an ordinary person could not get into.

That is, medicine for everyone (social justice) is a pipe dream, unfortunately.

In most Western European countries, people pay a small tax on general medicine (3-5%) and buy the insurance what they need.

Even so, medicine for citizens of Europe and Canada is less accessible to their citizens than medicine in the United States is for us.